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Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?

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    I get on to play Diamond Dynasty and to see whst SDS did with SP Kyle Hendricks from the Cubs after picking up his MAJOR LEAGUE LEADING 13th win (13-4 record) last night. Instead of getting an upgrade, he goes down from a silver 76 to a bronze 74!? Come on SDS. What is going on!!!??? I see gold pitchers in the live series doing much worse than Hendricks. And to make it worse, you have teammate Adbert Alzolay ranked silver 78!? How the heck...have you compared their stats!? Hendo had two bad starts at the BEGINNING of the year where he gave up 7 runs in both before you call out his ERA. He hasnt lost a game in almost three months. I'm not saying he should be diamond or anything, but man, give the guy his due credit. He definitely shouldnt be going down! Just like the ASG, he gets snubbed by SDS.

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    Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games. Teams do. There is no attribute that looks at pitchers W/L. A pitcher with a 5-15 record and a 2.25 ERA is a WAY better pitcher than a pitcher with a 15-5 record and a 3.50 ERA (ask deGrom in years past).

    Also I think Hendricks leads the league in the most hits given up. Thats not a good thing.

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    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games. Teams do. There is no attribute that looks at pitchers W/L. A pitcher with a 5-15 record and a 2.25 ERA is a WAY better pitcher than a pitcher with a 15-5 record and a 3.50 ERA (ask deGrom in years past).

    Also I think Hendricks leads the league in the most hits given up. Thats not a good thing.

    "Pitcher's don't win games".......LOL

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games. Teams do. There is no attribute that looks at pitchers W/L. A pitcher with a 5-15 record and a 2.25 ERA is a WAY better pitcher than a pitcher with a 15-5 record and a 3.50 ERA (ask deGrom in years past).

    Also I think Hendricks leads the league in the most hits given up. Thats not a good thing.

    "Pitcher's don't win games".......LOL

    Nope! They put themselves in position to win if they pitch well, but you can pitch your [censored] off and still lose.

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games. Teams do. There is no attribute that looks at pitchers W/L. A pitcher with a 5-15 record and a 2.25 ERA is a WAY better pitcher than a pitcher with a 15-5 record and a 3.50 ERA (ask deGrom in years past).

    Also I think Hendricks leads the league in the most hits given up. Thats not a good thing.

    "Pitcher's don't win games".......LOL

    He’s kinda right. Of course great pitching wins you games most often than not but there are plenty pf exceptions.

    Felix won the Cy Young in 2010 with a 13-12 record. You can pitch your * off and not win games due to lack of run support. Opposite also applies, awful pitchers win due to big time run support.

    That’s why doing a deep dive into advanced metrics paints a better picture of an SP production

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    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games. Teams do. There is no attribute that looks at pitchers W/L. A pitcher with a 5-15 record and a 2.25 ERA is a WAY better pitcher than a pitcher with a 15-5 record and a 3.50 ERA (ask deGrom in years past).

    Also I think Hendricks leads the league in the most hits given up. Thats not a good thing.

    "Pitcher's don't win games".......LOL

    Nope! They put themselves in position to win if they pitch well, but you can pitch your [censored] off and still lose.

    You make no sense. Just because you can pitch well and still lose doesn't mean pitcher's can't win the game.

    Who is responsible for a shutout win?

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games. Teams do. There is no attribute that looks at pitchers W/L. A pitcher with a 5-15 record and a 2.25 ERA is a WAY better pitcher than a pitcher with a 15-5 record and a 3.50 ERA (ask deGrom in years past).

    Also I think Hendricks leads the league in the most hits given up. Thats not a good thing.

    "Pitcher's don't win games".......LOL

    Nope! They put themselves in position to win if they pitch well, but you can pitch your [censored] off and still lose.

    You make no sense. Just because you can pitch well and still lose doesn't mean pitcher's can't win the game.

    Who is responsible for a shutout win?

    We were talking about Kyle Hendricks. Who has given up a league high 138 hits, he isnt getting any shutouts. But since he has 13 wins and doesnt pitch well his team will probably put up a nice number for him, well back then would have, maybe not now that they are all gone. SO a SP that gives up a 5 spot in 7 inn and wins 9-6 isnt as good as a pitcher who goes 7 and gives up 2 and loses 2-1. Thats what I am saying. W/L means nothing as a pitcher stat. It is a team stat.

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    You said, "Pitcher's don't win games". If your team win a game 1-0 then indeed your pitcher "won" that game for your team.

    It's really not that hard to understand dog.

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    You said, "Pitcher's don't win games". If your team win a game 1-0 then indeed your pitcher "won" that game for your team.

    It's really not that hard to understand dog.

    You cannot take one part of a comment and run with it. Im not gonna repeat myself for someone that can never understand.

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    LOL...you said what you said.

    Who was was responsible for Kyle Hendricks 81 pitch complete game shutout against the Cardinals?

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    You said, "Pitcher's don't win games". If your team win a game 1-0 then indeed your pitcher "won" that game for your team.

    It's really not that hard to understand dog.

    Dude stop being so narrow minded, you know exactly what @ChuckCLC_PSN means.

    By your logic, if your SP gives up 8ER in a 9-8 win, your pitcher may have won that game but he didn’t “win” the team that game

    Yes of course some instances your pitcher will definitely be the one who shines and wins you a game when your offense doesn’t show up but W and L aren’t the be all end all

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    @hikes83_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    You said, "Pitcher's don't win games". If your team win a game 1-0 then indeed your pitcher "won" that game for your team.

    It's really not that hard to understand dog.

    Dude stop being so narrow minded, you know exactly what @ChuckCLC_PSN means.

    By your logic, if your SP gives up 8ER in a 9-8 win, your pitcher may have won that game but he didn’t “win” the team that game

    Narrow minded? Dude is claiming pitcher's aren't responsible for their teams wins. You both sound stupid

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @hikes83_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    You said, "Pitcher's don't win games". If your team win a game 1-0 then indeed your pitcher "won" that game for your team.

    It's really not that hard to understand dog.

    Dude stop being so narrow minded, you know exactly what @ChuckCLC_PSN means.

    By your logic, if your SP gives up 8ER in a 9-8 win, your pitcher may have won that game but he didn’t “win” the team that game

    Narrow minded? Dude is claiming pitcher's aren't responsible for their teams wins. You both sound stupid

    That isnt what I am claiming. Dude, go back to bed and wake up again lol

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    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @hikes83_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    You said, "Pitcher's don't win games". If your team win a game 1-0 then indeed your pitcher "won" that game for your team.

    It's really not that hard to understand dog.

    Dude stop being so narrow minded, you know exactly what @ChuckCLC_PSN means.

    By your logic, if your SP gives up 8ER in a 9-8 win, your pitcher may have won that game but he didn’t “win” the team that game

    Narrow minded? Dude is claiming pitcher's aren't responsible for their teams wins. You both sound stupid

    That isnt what I am claiming. Dude, go back to bed and wake up again lol

    Sure it is. It's exactly what you wrote.

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    Because you are claiming the opposite I could say you are saying that a SP that gives up 8 ER and wins did his job. That is ridiculous. But I am not gonna say that because its stupid.

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    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Because you are claiming the opposite I could say you are saying that a SP that gives up 8 ER and wins did his job. That is ridiculous. But I am not gonna say that because its stupid.

    ....but I didn't write that anywhere.

    Here is what you wrote...

    "Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games."

    You edited your comment to add "teams do'...

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Because you are claiming the opposite I could say you are saying that a SP that gives up 8 ER and wins did his job. That is ridiculous. But I am not gonna say that because its stupid.

    ....but I didn't write that anywhere.

    Here is what you wrote...

    "Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games."

    You edited your comment to add "teams do'...

    Ok, and that was before anyone responded, whats your point? Actually I didnt edit it to include that, I added the last line lol.

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    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Because you are claiming the opposite I could say you are saying that a SP that gives up 8 ER and wins did his job. That is ridiculous. But I am not gonna say that because its stupid.

    ....but I didn't write that anywhere.

    Here is what you wrote...

    "Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games."

    You edited your comment to add "teams do'...

    He’s generalizing of course. Why be so literal?

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    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Because you are claiming the opposite I could say you are saying that a SP that gives up 8 ER and wins did his job. That is ridiculous. But I am not gonna say that because its stupid.

    ....but I didn't write that anywhere.

    Here is what you wrote...

    "Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games."

    You edited your comment to add "teams do'...

    Ok, and that was before anyone responded, whats your point?

    Andwer this and we can be done....

    Who won the games for the Cubs when they shutout the Cardinals on 81 pitches with Kyle Hendricks on the mound?

    I'll wait...

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    @hikes83_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @ccarr77_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    @chuckclc_psn said in Give Cubs SP Kyle Hendricks some love already! MLB leader in wins and he gets a downgrade!?:

    Because you are claiming the opposite I could say you are saying that a SP that gives up 8 ER and wins did his job. That is ridiculous. But I am not gonna say that because its stupid.

    ....but I didn't write that anywhere.

    Here is what you wrote...

    "Also has a 4.66 FIP and a 1.275 WHIP. The worst he has ever had. Pitchers dont win games."

    You edited your comment to add "teams do'...

    He’s generalizing of course. Why be so literal?

    What are you even doing here man? Cheerleading? Cosigning? What?

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