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  • Misfits_138_1_PSNM Offline
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    My son just absolutely tattooed a pitch in H2H, perfect/perfect.
    Result?
    Foul ball. Kind of throws the notion of SQUARING a ball up PERFECTLY out the window. Line outs are fine. But foul?

    Other hilarious/physics defying Show anomalies:

    1. It is physically impossible to be early on a ball and hit it foul the other way (lefty hitting it foul to left field). Yet this result is somehow common.
    2. Conversly, it defies the laws of nature to be very late on a pitch and pull it foul. Your hands and bat position don't allow it.
    3. Sliders dont break hard to the throwing hand side. When they do, it's called a screwball. Same with a curve that breaks to the hand throwing side.

    So don't put any stock in what the game tells you as far as timing.
    You know when you're early or late.
    And don't lose your shiz niz over perfect/perfect outs.
    Einstein's head would explode if he saw such shenanigans.
    At least yours don't go foul.

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    @misfits_138_1_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    My son just absolutely tattooed a pitch in H2H, perfect/perfect.

    I just had to laugh when I lined a perfect/perfect foul into the seats. Only happened to me once, but I’m glad to see I didn’t imagine it.

    I like your list too.

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  • worldrevolverW Offline
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    Yep had a few P/P foul balls.

    Wrote it here before. You don’t “get hits” by how good you are, you can just increase your RNG success odds. You swing or swing and put the pci somewhere and the game then consults result tables.

    If you are low with the pci that table has more fly balls and pop ups.

    So what we are seeing is SDS screwing up. The have P/P wrongly located in some foul ball tables or they have fouls in the P/P table. Either way it’s the same result and stupid.

    These tables are what allow them to adjust hitting success.

    These result tables are also why on the same pitch in the same location with the same timing and same pci location you can get drastically different results.

    You press swing, a table is consulted and then RNG chooses a result.

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  • ThaGhettoBlasta_PSNT Offline
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    #4

    I wish they would change it from "Perfect/Perfect" to Solid Contact! That's all it means!! Solid contact is not always fair/foul or a homerun. Why is this logic so hard to understand. Yes it happens IRL...but it's a video game.

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  • cjhanz84_PSNC Offline
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    Most of the time I hit a perfect perfect it is right to someone. Most of the time the CPU hits it, it’s a hit. When they first introduced the perfect perfect they said it was something to reward you.

    Perfect perfect doesn’t feel rewarding. And now it’s become something I try to avoid and something that should be rewarding is not something you should try and avoid

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  • RaieNez_PSNR Offline
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    @misfits_138_1_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    My son just absolutely tattooed a pitch in H2H, perfect/perfect.
    Result?
    Foul ball. Kind of throws the notion of SQUARING a ball up PERFECTLY out the window. Line outs are fine. But foul?

    Other hilarious/physics defying Show anomalies:

    1. It is physically impossible to be early on a ball and hit it foul the other way (lefty hitting it foul to left field). Yet this result is somehow common.
    2. Conversly, it defies the laws of nature to be very late on a pitch and pull it foul. Your hands and bat position don't allow it.
    3. Sliders dont break hard to the throwing hand side. When they do, it's called a screwball. Same with a curve that breaks to the hand throwing side.

    So don't put any stock in what the game tells you as far as timing.
    You know when you're early or late.
    And don't lose your shiz niz over perfect/perfect outs.
    Einstein's head would explode if he saw such shenanigans.
    At least yours don't go foul.

    In baseball they call this ... They just don't call this ... Lol

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  • Namtrah22_PSNN Offline
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    I honestly didn't believe it was a thing until it happened to me two times in a row over the weekend in a ranked game. 2 straight perfect-perfects foul lmao

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    @cjhanz84_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    Most of the time I hit a perfect perfect it is right to someone. Most of the time the CPU hits it, it’s a hit. When they first introduced the perfect perfect they said it was something to reward you.

    Perfect perfect doesn’t feel rewarding. And now it’s become something I try to avoid and something that should be rewarding is not something you should try and avoid

    You DD casuals loves getting a pat on the back eh?...I don't know why most of you guys don't play more of RBI Baseball to get that arcade experience.

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    @joshjays44_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @cjhanz84_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    Most of the time I hit a perfect perfect it is right to someone. Most of the time the CPU hits it, it’s a hit. When they first introduced the perfect perfect they said it was something to reward you.

    Perfect perfect doesn’t feel rewarding. And now it’s become something I try to avoid and something that should be rewarding is not something you should try and avoid

    You DD casuals loves getting a pat on the back eh?...I don't know why most of you guys don't play more of RBI Baseball to get that arcade experience.

    I’m sure a lot of people feel this way about perfect perfect but just because I don’t play ranked seasons and usually only play vs the CPU doesn’t make me a casual. I’ve been playing this game for years. Casual implies barely playing the game. I try and get at least 10 games in a day, usually more and usually complete the programs on those games well under time. The next time you go to say something ignorant to someone, think for a minute and then politely STFU

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  • KyleS779_PSNK Offline
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    Perfect/perfect in moments, Laureano..... Foul ball. SDS, F U.

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    @cjhanz84_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @joshjays44_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @cjhanz84_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    Most of the time I hit a perfect perfect it is right to someone. Most of the time the CPU hits it, it’s a hit. When they first introduced the perfect perfect they said it was something to reward you.

    Perfect perfect doesn’t feel rewarding. And now it’s become something I try to avoid and something that should be rewarding is not something you should try and avoid

    You DD casuals loves getting a pat on the back eh?...I don't know why most of you guys don't play more of RBI Baseball to get that arcade experience.

    I’m sure a lot of people feel this way about perfect perfect but just because I don’t play ranked seasons and usually only play vs the CPU doesn’t make me a casual. I’ve been playing this game for years. Casual implies barely playing the game. I try and get at least 10 games in a day, usually more and usually complete the programs on those games well under time. The next time you go to say something ignorant to someone, think for a minute and then politely STFU

    You can block people, click their profile name to bring up their profile page. Near the top right part of the screen, click the drag down menu titled “More” and choose block user.

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  • manoguec_PSNM Offline
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    If you hit a pitch 6 inches off the plate perfectly in real life, it goes 20 feet foul to your pull field. Seems about right.

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  • Schwizzle_Nizzle_PSNS Offline
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    I didn't have any PP fouls for a month, then suddenly like 5 in a week...

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  • KingAKP_XBLK Offline
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    @misfits_138_1_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    My son just absolutely tattooed a pitch in H2H, perfect/perfect.
    Result?
    Foul ball. Kind of throws the notion of SQUARING a ball up PERFECTLY out the window. Line outs are fine. But foul?

    Other hilarious/physics defying Show anomalies:

    1. It is physically impossible to be early on a ball and hit it foul the other way (lefty hitting it foul to left field). Yet this result is somehow common.
    2. Conversly, it defies the laws of nature to be very late on a pitch and pull it foul. Your hands and bat position don't allow it.
    3. Sliders dont break hard to the throwing hand side. When they do, it's called a screwball. Same with a curve that breaks to the hand throwing side.

    So don't put any stock in what the game tells you as far as timing.
    You know when you're early or late.
    And don't lose your shiz niz over perfect/perfect outs.
    Einstein's head would explode if he saw such shenanigans.
    At least yours don't go foul.

    Neither of those things are physically impossible or defy the laws of physics. You obv haven't watched or played a lot of baseball in your life. Although I do agree the game can be silly at times, saying thats impossible is silly in itself.

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    @chickun_legs_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @cjhanz84_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @joshjays44_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @cjhanz84_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    Most of the time I hit a perfect perfect it is right to someone. Most of the time the CPU hits it, it’s a hit. When they first introduced the perfect perfect they said it was something to reward you.

    Perfect perfect doesn’t feel rewarding. And now it’s become something I try to avoid and something that should be rewarding is not something you should try and avoid

    You DD casuals loves getting a pat on the back eh?...I don't know why most of you guys don't play more of RBI Baseball to get that arcade experience.

    I’m sure a lot of people feel this way about perfect perfect but just because I don’t play ranked seasons and usually only play vs the CPU doesn’t make me a casual. I’ve been playing this game for years. Casual implies barely playing the game. I try and get at least 10 games in a day, usually more and usually complete the programs on those games well under time. The next time you go to say something ignorant to someone, think for a minute and then politely STFU

    You can block people, click their profile name to bring up their profile page. Near the top right part of the screen, click the drag down menu titled “More” and choose block user.

    Yeah guys if you're a thin skinned person that gets offended by internet words you can block people and continue living in your sugar coated world. Be a "Chickun" and run away 🙂

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  • The_Joneser_PSNT Away
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    This is a semantic argument over what "perfect" means... those who want to see it as a "perfect" outcome, as in perfectly desirable to the player, can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept of a perfect/perfect foul ball or even a perfect/perfect out. But if you see "perfect" as that which results in the hardest a particular pitch in a particular spot can be hit, it's really not that difficult. Like the person said earlier, a ball 6 inches off the plate is going to be hit harder and farther foul than fair. It may not be as desirable, but it makes sense and does not mean that the physics are off.

    That, of course, doesn't mean the game always adheres to the laws of physics. Baseball is complicated, though, and the game's done a pretty good job with it (though it's pretty lenient with regard to the bat angles PCI hitters get assigned to their contact... wish my arms bent like that).

    I do have to say that in all my years playing this game I've never seen a single instance of any of the OP's 3-item list, though certainly that alone doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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  • worldrevolverW Offline
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    Perfect perfect should be perfect timing perfect pci placement.

    Anyone hit good/good foul balls? I have not yet.

    This is why I say SDS have screwed up their hit tables. They have incorrect results in the perfect/perfect table.

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  • el FIama BIanca_XBLE Offline
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    I hate posts like these because I just end up arguing with some casuals and get banned for a week. I'll just educate you real quick and then you can do what you want with it...

    The best hitters in the league FAIL 60-70% of the time. There's roughly 80-100k sq ft on a baseball field. Including foul territory. You have 9 player strategically placed on the field to cover that area. Players smash the ball by directly to someone or an elite fielder makes a amazing running catch etc. This is why the best players fail 60-70% of the time. Because defenders make plays too. Timing can be perfect and directly off the sweet spot of the barrel... but the pitch trajectory and the spin rate along with wind, all play a major role in the physics of the ball after contact. So "perfect-perfect" being an out is 100000% realistic and people need to stop complaining about it. If it's a big deal, go play RBI Baseball.

    A lot of the info above directly applies to your 1, 2 and 3.

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  • Misfits_138_1_PSNM Offline
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    @kingakp_xbl said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    @misfits_138_1_psn said in Perfect/Perfect... Foul?:

    My son just absolutely tattooed a pitch in H2H, perfect/perfect.
    Result?
    Foul ball. Kind of throws the notion of SQUARING a ball up PERFECTLY out the window. Line outs are fine. But foul?

    Other hilarious/physics defying Show anomalies:

    1. It is physically impossible to be early on a ball and hit it foul the other way (lefty hitting it foul to left field). Yet this result is somehow common.
    2. Conversly, it defies the laws of nature to be very late on a pitch and pull it foul. Your hands and bat position don't allow it.
    3. Sliders dont break hard to the throwing hand side. When they do, it's called a screwball. Same with a curve that breaks to the hand throwing side.

    So don't put any stock in what the game tells you as far as timing.
    You know when you're early or late.
    And don't lose your shiz niz over perfect/perfect outs.
    Einstein's head would explode if he saw such shenanigans.
    At least yours don't go foul.

    Neither of those things are physically impossible or defy the laws of physics. You obv haven't watched or played a lot of baseball in your life. Although I do agree the game can be silly at times, saying thats impossible is silly in itself.

    I played in college.
    Do YOU understand physics and baseball or do you just like an argument?
    If so, explain how you can get your bat out in front (early), and somehow push it foul the other way?
    Or be late, with your bat angle behind you, and pull it?
    This should be good.

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    I’ve been getting p/p grounders a lot lately. Trout just did it in HOF RS game.

    I wonder if the defender is sitting there watching the ball come at him and is like “ wow what a perfect ground ball”

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