I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...
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Yeah but a bad player can only get the reward and has to choose between keep or sell, a good player not only get ir before its value tanks but can keep AND sell.
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
I agree, but you aren't accounting for tankers. Win 1 then quit 2. That way you can smash noobs in the 400s all the way to 40 wins.
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@savagesteve74 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
I’ll counter with, you can’t be serious?? You know how many people have records like 130-200, 115-150, 200-250? I see them all the time in events and BR. Those people aren’t making WS and most likely aren’t making it out of Wild Card. They look for quick easy wins. If they don’t get a lead early, they either start with the glitch non-sense and hope for opponent to quit, or quit themselves and start over to chase that 40 W bundle. It’s not about playing the game now, it’s a race to the 40 W mark regardless of overall record.
Once again those people are in the extreme minority just like the guys last year with a 1000 wins and 2500 losses. In statistics these people are called outliers. And you don’t make an argument using stats from outliers, you make an argument using the mean which is the majority.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
Having to wait for 500 orders of 1M to be filled before you get to use a card is not good for the majority of the player base.
In my book getting the pack at 40 wins doesn’t make it “a gift”. People invest their time and effort and at some point they should be rewarded
Fair, but how do you appease competitive balance? Is that to be ignored? Yes you can suck, but if you suck hard enough you’ll get a reward. Time is an investment but then how is there incentive to be good if you can negate that with time?
The good/elite players will get to WS early and sell those cards while they’re still valuable. Then will get them again at 40 wins and either sell again or keep.
It looks fair to me tbh
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
Supply and demand. The market diss proves any point you’re trying to make. More of these WS cards are available. Driving prices for these cards down significantly with in weeks of their release. There is live proof of this.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
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@go4stros25_psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
I agree, but you aren't accounting for tankers. Win 1 then quit 2. That way you can smash noobs in the 400s all the way to 40 wins.
Once again you’re making an argument about the extreme minority. Those guys don’t factor into the point I’m making because there will always be outliers no matter where you go.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@go4stros25_psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
I agree, but you aren't accounting for tankers. Win 1 then quit 2. That way you can smash noobs in the 400s all the way to 40 wins.
Once again you’re making an argument about the extreme minority. Those guys don’t factor into the point I’m making because there will always be outliers no matter where you go.
Valid. Just thought I'd jump in lol
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
Even if there were a 1000 people who did what you claim, that is still less than 1 percent of those that actually participate in RS at this point in the game cycle as there are over 1 million online users participating. In fact that is actually closer to 1/10 of 1 percent. That is a fact.
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
So I’m ranked 110530 in the world right now for RS. Meaning that if I was in last place in the world and If there were 1000 guys out there dumping games to play bad players at lower divisions just to get to 40 win threshold and have these astonishingly terrible records that would mean that there is approximately 1 percent doing this. That would make them an outlier by any statistical measure. It’s obvious that this argument has gone way over your head.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
So I’m ranked 110530 in the world right now for RS. If there were 1000 guys out there dumping games to play bad players at lower divisions just to get to 40 win threshold and have these astonishingly terrible records that would mean that there is approximately 1 percent doing this. That would make them an outlier by any statistical measure. It’s obvious that this argument has gone way over your head.
I provided a real cause and effect, evidential proof. You’re just regurgitating anecdotal numerical nonsense. Your rank in the world has nothing to do with the ease of achieving anything. Outliers aside, make that argument. Fact of the matter there’s more supply for a WS card now more than ever. It’s not a rarity. These cards are circulating and devaluing any real skill achievement.
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Why is your time more valuable than the next persons? If they want to grind 40 wins, why do you really care? WS players start up higher every season. It takes much less time for them to make it to 900. Now consider an average player trying to get to 40 wins. It would take them about 70-80 games. Whether they're quitting half way through or not, thats still a lot of time they're investing in the game. Why not be rewarded for that? WS players would have already made it to 900 and sold their rewards for top price long before that... I don't really see the downside for either type of player. The market is much better for it also. Much better. To be honest, in the time it takes you to make WS I could flip the market and make a million stubs. It all washes out in the end.
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
So I’m ranked 110530 in the world right now for RS. If there were 1000 guys out there dumping games to play bad players at lower divisions just to get to 40 win threshold and have these astonishingly terrible records that would mean that there is approximately 1 percent doing this. That would make them an outlier by any statistical measure. It’s obvious that this argument has gone way over your head.
I provided a real cause and effect, evidential proof. You’re just regurgitating anecdotal numerical nonsense. Your rank in the world has nothing to do with the ease of achieving anything. Outliers aside, make that argument. Fact of the matter there’s more supply for a WS card now more than ever. It’s not a rarity. These cards are circulating and devaluing any real skill achievement.
Fact of the matter is the WS cards are trash right now. There are better options in the TA grind and other content drops out there. No one is willing to pay for cards that are not even going to make someone’s lineup. It speaks more to the available content than any argument you’ve made here.
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
So I’m ranked 110530 in the world right now for RS. If there were 1000 guys out there dumping games to play bad players at lower divisions just to get to 40 win threshold and have these astonishingly terrible records that would mean that there is approximately 1 percent doing this. That would make them an outlier by any statistical measure. It’s obvious that this argument has gone way over your head.
I provided a real cause and effect, evidential proof. You’re just regurgitating anecdotal numerical nonsense. Your rank in the world has nothing to do with the ease of achieving anything. Outliers aside, make that argument. Fact of the matter there’s more supply for a WS card now more than ever. It’s not a rarity. These cards are circulating and devaluing any real skill achievement.
Fact of the matter is the WS cards are trash right now. There are better options in the TA grind and other content drops out there. No one is willing to pay for cards that are not even going to make someone’s lineup. It speaks more to the available content than any argument you’ve made here.
Not true. Even the most garbage of WS cards were going for serious stubs last year do to their rarity. That stayed consistent throughout the life time of the game and had for a long time. Don’t water something down or try to make a counter point with more nonsense
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Why is your time more valuable than the next persons? If they want to grind 40 wins, why do you really care? WS players start up higher every season. It takes much less time for them to make it to 900. Now consider an average player trying to get to 40 wins. It would take them about 70-80 games. Whether they're quitting half way through or not, thats still a lot of time they're investing in the game. Why not be rewarded for that? WS players would have already made it to 900 and sold their rewards for top price long before that... I don't really see the downside for either type of player. The market is much better for it also. Much better. To be honest, in the time it takes you to make WS I could flip the market and make a million stubs. It all washes out in the end.
You’re argument is far more coherent than the garbage that the OP has been going on about for the last hour. He’s just [censored] hurt that he can’t make a quick 100k for doing exactly what you said. He thinks 90 Nolan Ryan should be worth 200-300k based on so called rarity of the card and he believes that a WS push is now watered down because of the introduction of 40 win route to the same cards. When in actuality it probably has more to do with the cards that are the reward and really not how those cards are being obtained.
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
So I’m ranked 110530 in the world right now for RS. If there were 1000 guys out there dumping games to play bad players at lower divisions just to get to 40 win threshold and have these astonishingly terrible records that would mean that there is approximately 1 percent doing this. That would make them an outlier by any statistical measure. It’s obvious that this argument has gone way over your head.
I provided a real cause and effect, evidential proof. You’re just regurgitating anecdotal numerical nonsense. Your rank in the world has nothing to do with the ease of achieving anything. Outliers aside, make that argument. Fact of the matter there’s more supply for a WS card now more than ever. It’s not a rarity. These cards are circulating and devaluing any real skill achievement.
Fact of the matter is the WS cards are trash right now. There are better options in the TA grind and other content drops out there. No one is willing to pay for cards that are not even going to make someone’s lineup. It speaks more to the available content than any argument you’ve made here.
Not true. Even the most garbage of WS cards were going for serious stubs last year do to their rarity. That stayed consistent throughout the life time of the game and had for a long time. Don’t water something down or try to make a counter point with more nonsense
90 Adley Rutschman was one reward for the first RS season last year. His card began at over 200k stubs. 3 months later could be had for 45k. Explain that!!!
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
I’m making zero assumptions, I’m using statistics to back up my argument. That is how you make a plausible analytical argument.
Where are you getting these statistics? Your a**? You’re providing unverified data from... whom? yourself? Look at the reaction to the market and then tell me more of these cards aren’t in circulation. An outlier is a one off, not enough to make a significant effect. The effects are prevalent and the market itself will tell you that. Those are real cause and effect differences
So I’m ranked 110530 in the world right now for RS. If there were 1000 guys out there dumping games to play bad players at lower divisions just to get to 40 win threshold and have these astonishingly terrible records that would mean that there is approximately 1 percent doing this. That would make them an outlier by any statistical measure. It’s obvious that this argument has gone way over your head.
I provided a real cause and effect, evidential proof. You’re just regurgitating anecdotal numerical nonsense. Your rank in the world has nothing to do with the ease of achieving anything. Outliers aside, make that argument. Fact of the matter there’s more supply for a WS card now more than ever. It’s not a rarity. These cards are circulating and devaluing any real skill achievement.
Fact of the matter is the WS cards are trash right now. There are better options in the TA grind and other content drops out there. No one is willing to pay for cards that are not even going to make someone’s lineup. It speaks more to the available content than any argument you’ve made here.
Not true. Even the most garbage of WS cards were going for serious stubs last year do to their rarity. That stayed consistent throughout the life time of the game and had for a long time. Don’t water something down or try to make a counter point with more nonsense
90 Adley Rutschman was one reward for the first RS season last year. His card began at over 200k stubs. 3 months later could be had for 45k. Explain that!!!
Thank you for proving my point. Right now we have a WS reward from this season down to 80k and dropping. Two weeks in.
