I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.See you’re getting it! All jokes aside, yes! I agree. There needs to be exclusivity to some of these rewards.
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Having to wait for 500 orders of 1M to be filled before you get to use a card is not good for the majority of the player base.
In my book getting the pack at 40 wins doesn’t make it “a gift”. People invest their time and effort and at some point they should be rewarded
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.See you’re getting it! All jokes aside, yes! I agree. There needs to be exclusivity to some of these rewards.
Bro I have always got it. Regardless of the fact that this has now been going on for so long now it does not make me any less sick when I see it. Just a reflection of what the real world has become and it’s a JOKE! The moment I had been told they were now giving trophies to all children regardless of what place they finished that was the beginning of the end. Do they think they are actually helping children by doing dumb [censored] like that. When the team in last place is getting the same trophy as the team in first place then why even begin to start finding the will to get better and the will to win? I mean after all when you are rewarded the exact same prize why even put the effort to get better.
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I said this a few weeks ago, and I don’t see the trend going away. Everything is watered down, even LS collection. There really is nothing “special” anymore. Everyone can get everything with little effort. Look at the Innings Program, they give away so much now, and you don’t see many people complaining about not being able to get it all done.
I remember not too long ago that grinding through to WS meant something, not just a unique banner, but also a special player. Sure it could be bought on the market, but not for the cheap price we see today.
I did TA2 and ended up making over a million stubs without having to do any market flipping, and no, I didn’t get great diamond pulls either. So LS collection isn’t all that hard either.
I’m sure there will be the counter arguments of not wanting to have to put in million stub orders and waiting, but this isn’t fun either. No parity in teams or competition. It’s all about meta now, YTers share every little secret and within minutes, most player is using whatever glitch has been “uncovered” this week.
I used to love new ranked seasons, but find myself very unmotivated to play online. I don’t have the patience anymore to sit through 9 innings of every glitch/exploit/cheat that’s out there so someone can try and get themselves an easy W to go towards that 40 win bundle. That’s what’s ruining RS and why the 40 W bundle needs to be changed.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
Having to wait for 500 orders of 1M to be filled before you get to use a card is not good for the majority of the player base.
In my book getting the pack at 40 wins doesn’t make it “a gift”. People invest their time and effort and at some point they should be rewarded
Fair, but how do you appease competitive balance? Is that to be ignored? Yes you can suck, but if you suck hard enough you’ll get a reward. Time is an investment but then how is there incentive to be good if you can negate that with time?
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
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@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.The exclusivity comes from the guys that are able to make worldseries within 3 days of the new season, and get to sell the cards for 300k+. By the time most players get to 40 wins the award cards are selling for a fraction, and there are usually other options. Just like now, seagers price has tanked because ta2 has given you other infielders to choose from.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
I’ll counter with, you can’t be serious?? You know how many people have records like 130-200, 115-150, 200-250? I see them all the time in events and BR. Those people aren’t making WS and most likely aren’t making it out of Wild Card. They look for quick easy wins. If they don’t get a lead early, they either start with the glitch non-sense and hope for opponent to quit, or quit themselves and start over to chase that 40 W bundle. It’s not about playing the game now, it’s a race to the 40 W mark regardless of overall record.
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
Having to wait for 500 orders of 1M to be filled before you get to use a card is not good for the majority of the player base.
In my book getting the pack at 40 wins doesn’t make it “a gift”. People invest their time and effort and at some point they should be rewarded
Fair, but how do you appease competitive balance? Is that to be ignored? Yes you can suck, but if you suck hard enough you’ll get a reward. Time is an investment but then how is there incentive to be good if you can negate that with time?
The good/elite players will get to WS early and sell those cards while they’re still valuable. Then will get them again at 40 wins and either sell again or keep.
It looks fair to me tbh
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
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@savagesteve74 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
I did TA2 and ended up making over a million stubs without having to do any market flipping, and no, I didn’t get great diamond pulls either. So LS collection isn’t all that hard either.
Lol sure
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Yeah but a bad player can only get the reward and has to choose between keep or sell, a good player not only get ir before its value tanks but can keep AND sell.
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@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
I agree, but you aren't accounting for tankers. Win 1 then quit 2. That way you can smash noobs in the 400s all the way to 40 wins.
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@savagesteve74 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
I’ll counter with, you can’t be serious?? You know how many people have records like 130-200, 115-150, 200-250? I see them all the time in events and BR. Those people aren’t making WS and most likely aren’t making it out of Wild Card. They look for quick easy wins. If they don’t get a lead early, they either start with the glitch non-sense and hope for opponent to quit, or quit themselves and start over to chase that 40 W bundle. It’s not about playing the game now, it’s a race to the 40 W mark regardless of overall record.
Once again those people are in the extreme minority just like the guys last year with a 1000 wins and 2500 losses. In statistics these people are called outliers. And you don’t make an argument using stats from outliers, you make an argument using the mean which is the majority.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
Having to wait for 500 orders of 1M to be filled before you get to use a card is not good for the majority of the player base.
In my book getting the pack at 40 wins doesn’t make it “a gift”. People invest their time and effort and at some point they should be rewarded
Fair, but how do you appease competitive balance? Is that to be ignored? Yes you can suck, but if you suck hard enough you’ll get a reward. Time is an investment but then how is there incentive to be good if you can negate that with time?
The good/elite players will get to WS early and sell those cards while they’re still valuable. Then will get them again at 40 wins and either sell again or keep.
It looks fair to me tbh
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
Supply and demand. The market diss proves any point you’re trying to make. More of these WS cards are available. Driving prices for these cards down significantly with in weeks of their release. There is live proof of this.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
Yeah it must be me that is kidding you and not you kidding yourself. The fact that you even look at it from that standpoint rather than actually looking at it from the rightful standpoint speaks for itself. That being said you are that much more out of your mind to be saying some stupid [censored] such as “ When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50”. I can assure you that you aren’t even possibly “99 percent” incorrect about that but are absolutely 100 PERCENT incorrect about that. The 40 wins aren’t there to make it “feel achievable” they are there because it makes it achievable for any player at all as long as they put the time in.
Once again though regardless of how clearly incorrect your assumptions and comparisons are you obviously miss the entire meaning of the post. This is a matter no different than any other situation and being people should not be rewarded the same for achieving less. Just because someone puts in the same or for that matter even more time than someone else does not mean they should be compensated the same as even someone who may put in even ten times less amount time. Not when that person who put in ten times less amount of time achieved more in ten mins than the other person could achieve with infinite time.
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@go4stros25_psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
I agree, but you aren't accounting for tankers. Win 1 then quit 2. That way you can smash noobs in the 400s all the way to 40 wins.
Once again you’re making an argument about the extreme minority. Those guys don’t factor into the point I’m making because there will always be outliers no matter where you go.
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@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@go4stros25_psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@quinnymcquinn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@killerpresence4 said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
@doc_dubs__psn said in I absolutely hate the fact that they really added...:
This 40 wins garbage in ranked season. Have absolutely ruined the amount of value which should be rewarded to those who actually earn it and most importantly of all making it so much less appealing to even try to get to World Series rank.
Of course it is nothing new though when it comes to most any of these gaming companies and from a business aspect I understand it. Find a way to appease the majority over the minority and the customer base should maintain a higher percentage in the long run.
Even if it comes at the cost of competition and the will win.You’re kidding me right???? You do realize that if you get to 40 wins in ranked seasons that you’re more than likely already to WS without the hand out. There are a very select few people who actually benefit from the 40 win thing. The whole 40 win goal is there to make it feel achievable. When in reality the 99 percent who actually win 40 games in a RS are the guys that are regularly in the top 50. If you expand that win total through a full year playing cycle and only play to win 40 games that’s 480 wins. The only people that get to that win total are the streaming elite with the exception of a select very few who are not good at the game but live in moms basement and don’t contribute to society. Just think about that way.
No! I could make up percentages too. You need 1.5 wins a day. Very achievable even for a bad player. With more players on this game now due to cross play that brings a million stub player down to 40k stubs. Explain that! 1 million to 40k, explain. Please
That’s provided you win every single game you play. Which unless you're elite you’re not winning every single game. Especially once you cross the 650 threshold. Winning 40 games is much harder than you think and you are way over simplifying the task. And by the way if you go 40-30 you would make WS anyways just due to the amount of games you would play. And those guys that have 150-200 records every RS month are by far the outliers in the game. They would be in the 1st percentile of actual players every month as there are millions who participate every month for at least the first 5-6 months of the game cycle.
I agree, but you aren't accounting for tankers. Win 1 then quit 2. That way you can smash noobs in the 400s all the way to 40 wins.
Once again you’re making an argument about the extreme minority. Those guys don’t factor into the point I’m making because there will always be outliers no matter where you go.
Valid. Just thought I'd jump in lol
