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  • allday9128_PSNA Offline
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    Mine for the cubs would be

    Banks- because of course Mr. Cub is on it

    Santo- one of the most beloved cubs of all time as a player and broadcaster

    Sosa- steroids or not he was one of the most popular players in Cub history

    Lester- he was that big signing that let all us Cub fans know that it was time to go win a world series

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    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    How do you not put Juan Gonzalez on that list fam. Had about 4oo Hrs and about 1300 RBIs playing most his career for the Rangers. He was an absolute MONSTER.

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    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

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    @nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @sirkess_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    Phillies

    Mike Schmidt
    Steve Carlton
    Richie Ashburn
    Tug McGraw

    No Chase Utley? He's actually 2nd all-time in WAR from the positional player side.

    I love Chase - he's one of my favorites from the 08 squad, but he just doesn't have that lasting impact that the others do. An amazing player for sure, though.

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    @msacks11_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @sirkess_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    Phillies

    Mike Schmidt
    Steve Carlton
    Richie Ashburn
    Tug McGraw

    I was just typing one up for the Phillies and looking at what my list would be and what yours is I'd assume I'm younger than you because I have never seen any of those guys play but I still had Schmidt and Carlton on mine but my I had Rollins (my favorite player of all time) and the last spot was my tough one. The question does say success so it makes my think of Hamels because he was a WS MVP but Howard and Utley are tough to leave off for me. It's a fun question for sure.

    I had a hard time leaving the 08 players off the list. McGraw closing the game for the 1980 championship is a huge moment. I didn't get to see Ashburn play, but he was one of the few bright spots on many bad teams and stuck around as a team broadcaster afterwards. That's where my memories of him come from.

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    @sirkess_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @msacks11_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @sirkess_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    Phillies

    Mike Schmidt
    Steve Carlton
    Richie Ashburn
    Tug McGraw

    I was just typing one up for the Phillies and looking at what my list would be and what yours is I'd assume I'm younger than you because I have never seen any of those guys play but I still had Schmidt and Carlton on mine but my I had Rollins (my favorite player of all time) and the last spot was my tough one. The question does say success so it makes my think of Hamels because he was a WS MVP but Howard and Utley are tough to leave off for me. It's a fun question for sure.

    I had a hard time leaving the 08 players off the list. McGraw closing the game for the 1980 championship is a huge moment. I didn't get to see Ashburn play, but he was one of the few bright spots on many bad teams and stuck around as a team broadcaster afterwards. That's where my memories of him come from.

    I was thinking about putting Harry K on mine because he was the voice of the Phillies for my childhood.

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    Pete Rose
    Johnny Bench
    Barry Larkin
    Frank Robinson

    Which of course is top 4 in WAR.

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    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

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    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    It is odd... Especially when you have his teammate Lou in there... So it's not like you're discounting that era... Followed by Joe D and Mick, who literally carried the torch of greatness in the house and torch that Ruth built lol.... Even if they were alive they'd tell ya that lol

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    @nanthrax_1_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    It is odd... Especially when you have his teammate Lou in there... So it's not like you're discounting that era... Followed by Joe D and Mick, who literally carried the torch of greatness in the house and torch that Ruth built lol.... Even if they were alive they'd tell ya that lol

    Ruth is on the Mount Rushmore of MLB, I know the Yankees have a ton to choose from, but Ruth is the one everyone knows need to be there.

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    Those guys are tough to listen to sometimes. Dallas doesn't bother me, but the other guy is just annoying tbh. Talkin Baseball for meeeee.

    Todd Helton
    Larry Walker
    Carlos Gonzales
    Nolan Arenado

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  • SirKess_PSNS Offline
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    @msacks11_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @sirkess_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @msacks11_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @sirkess_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    Phillies

    Mike Schmidt
    Steve Carlton
    Richie Ashburn
    Tug McGraw

    I was just typing one up for the Phillies and looking at what my list would be and what yours is I'd assume I'm younger than you because I have never seen any of those guys play but I still had Schmidt and Carlton on mine but my I had Rollins (my favorite player of all time) and the last spot was my tough one. The question does say success so it makes my think of Hamels because he was a WS MVP but Howard and Utley are tough to leave off for me. It's a fun question for sure.

    I had a hard time leaving the 08 players off the list. McGraw closing the game for the 1980 championship is a huge moment. I didn't get to see Ashburn play, but he was one of the few bright spots on many bad teams and stuck around as a team broadcaster afterwards. That's where my memories of him come from.

    I was thinking about putting Harry K on mine because he was the voice of the Phillies for my childhood.

    Agree 100%!

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    @random_schmuck_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @desolator78_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    Rockies:

    Larry Walker
    Helton
    Bichette
    Vinny Castilla

    Honorable mention- Tulo had he been able to stay healthy, and Galarraga had he played longer here

    As a fellow Rox fan, I’d substitute Eric Young for Bichette.
    Tulo never really had major health issues until he left CO. He should definitely overtake Vinny Castillo.

    Back in 93 just remember going to games and watching Bichette between innings in right field at Mile High entertain the fans with random goofiness, have loved him ever since. Not to mention how clutch he was so often. Still remember my fave line about his defense though... Like an elephant on roller skates lol. And no way anyone should overtake Vinny, that dude was the model of consistency during his prime, always with 130ish RBI and 40ish homers, and humble as hell. EY will always have a special place for sure though.

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  • KingsCountyOG718K Offline
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    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    History? There were better all around players than Ruth brother. You can make the argument about being the best hitter in history. I got the reaction I wanted though I know someone was gonna mention that. Trust me if Mantle didn't seriously damage his body specifically his knees his HR #s might have been higher than Ruth's. Also was a switch hitter and a 5 Tool player

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  • nflman2033_PSNN Offline
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    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    History? There were better all around players than Ruth brother. You can make the argument about being the best hitter in history but best player ever in the history of baseball you need to slow down there. I got the reaction I wanted though I know someone was gonna mention that.

    So you were trolling?

    What you did is equivalent of listing the Mount Rushmore of the Chicago Bulls and leaving off Jordan.

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    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    History? There were better all around players than Ruth brother. You can make the argument about being the best hitter in history. I got the reaction I wanted though I know someone was gonna mention that. Trust me if Mantle didn't seriously damage his body specifically his knees his HR #s might have been higher than Ruth's. Also was a switch hitter and a 5 Tool player

    My man, Ruth is #1 in WAR all time. He also was the best LHP in baseball for a 2 year stretch. He had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and 6.5 in 1916 and 1917. Name someone else that had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and a batting WAR of 14.1 in different seasons of their careers. You cant.

    He completely redefined the game. Every HR he hit between #138 and #714 was the new record, and he did it while having a career batting average of .342.

    The House that Ruth Built.

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    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    History? There were better all around players than Ruth brother. You can make the argument about being the best hitter in history. I got the reaction I wanted though I know someone was gonna mention that. Trust me if Mantle didn't seriously damage his body specifically his knees his HR #s might have been higher than Ruth's. Also was a switch hitter and a 5 Tool player

    My man, Ruth is #1 in WAR all time. He also was the best LHP in baseball for a 2 year stretch. He had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and 6.5 in 1916 and 1917. Name someone else that had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and a batting WAR of 14.1 in different seasons of their careers. You cant.

    He completely redefined the game. Every HR he hit between #138 and #714 was the new record, and he did it while having a career batting average of .342.

    The House that Ruth Built.

    He literally changed how stadium dimensions were to be built lol

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    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    History? There were better all around players than Ruth brother. You can make the argument about being the best hitter in history. I got the reaction I wanted though I know someone was gonna mention that. Trust me if Mantle didn't seriously damage his body specifically his knees his HR #s might have been higher than Ruth's. Also was a switch hitter and a 5 Tool player

    My man, Ruth is #1 in WAR all time. He also was the best LHP in baseball for a 2 year stretch. He had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and 6.5 in 1916 and 1917. Name someone else that had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and a batting WAR of 14.1 in their careers. You cant.

    He completely redefined the game. Every HR he hit between #138 and #714 was the new record, and he did it while having a career batting average of .342.

    The House that Ruth Built.

    His WAR is crazy I know. I agree with you as well. I didn't add him because IMO thats a given. His WAR is like 162 or something and if you add pitching its like 180 or something. If I had a draft and had my choice off any player ever I'm not taking Ruth, I'm taking a healthy Mantle.. If you are going by that metric for hitting alone I believe Bonds is a tick higher. I also made the argument because you said best player not best hitter. There are some like Mantle and Mays who had the speed and crazy defense. IMO that factors into best player taking into account the other facets. Again if you said best hitter I would agree. I will not agree all around player goes to Ruth. Don't forget about Ted Williams also. He lost 5 years I'm his prime fighting in a real WAR. He might have passed everyone in most categories if we talking straight hitting. When best ever comes up I take into account the overall body of work brother.

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    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @formallyforearms said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @kingscountyog718 said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    @gooseonem_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    So I got this idea while listening to the Starting 9 Podcast. Pick the four players from your favorite team that had the biggest impact/most success in their time there.

    As a Rangers fan my Mt. Rushmore would have to be:

    Nolan Ryan
    Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez
    Michael Young
    Adrian Beltre

    Real Yank fan here. Started in 87 and see some horrible teams. Here I go,
    1-Mickey Mantle
    2-Lou Gehrig
    3-Joe DiMaggio
    And a little curveball. Just because of the clutchness and always getting that big hit or defensive play when it mattered most
    5-Derek Jeter

    How the Hell do you have a Yankees list and omit Babe Ruth? Hes the best player in baseball history, let alone Yankees history.

    History? There were better all around players than Ruth brother. You can make the argument about being the best hitter in history. I got the reaction I wanted though I know someone was gonna mention that. Trust me if Mantle didn't seriously damage his body specifically his knees his HR #s might have been higher than Ruth's. Also was a switch hitter and a 5 Tool player

    My man, Ruth is #1 in WAR all time. He also was the best LHP in baseball for a 2 year stretch. He had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and 6.5 in 1916 and 1917. Name someone else that had a pitching WAR of 8.8 and a batting WAR of 14.1 in their careers. You cant.

    He completely redefined the game. Every HR he hit between #138 and #714 was the new record, and he did it while having a career batting average of .342.

    The House that Ruth Built.

    His WAR is crazy I know. I agree with you as well. I didn't add him because IMO thats a given. His WAR is like 162 or something and if you add pitching its like 180 or something. If I had a draft and had my choice off any player ever I'm not taking Ruth, I'm taking a healthy Mantle.. If you are going by that metric for hitting alone I believe Bonds is a tick higher. I also made the argument because you said best player not best hitter. There are some like Mantle and Mays who had the speed and crazy defense. IMO that factors into best player taking into account the other facets. Again if you said best hitter I would agree. I will not agree all around player goes to Ruth. Don't forget about Ted Williams also. He lost 5 years I'm his prime fighting in a real WAR. He might have passed everyone in most categories if we talking straight hitting. When best ever comes up I take into account the overall body of work brother.

    The best player argument is exactly why I brought up his pitching. He had 94 wins! Career ERA of 2.28. That's better than Jacob deGrom, in nearly the same amount of innings. To me, factoring in his pitching is much more substantial than fielding prowess when it comes to defense.

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    @renz2003_psn said in Favorite Team Mt. Rushmore:

    Cleveland Indians

    Tris Speaker
    Bob Feller
    Jim Thomas
    Kluber

    No way to argue with the first three, but two be honest I think Kluber would be in the second half of top 10 for me. I would probably have these guys ahead of him:

    -Manny
    -Omar
    -Kenny
    -Bob Lemon
    -Lou Boudreau

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