I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe
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@hoboadam_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
Sutter.
That is all.
It'd be a '79 Cy. Sutter had one of the best Splitters of all time and threw it as a primary. The fastball wasn't overpowering, but he's a change of pace kind of guy. He'll be similar to Street in terms of utility. I'm willing to give him a shot.
He's going to be lights out in HOF/Legend.
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Fergie and Sutter are good guesses. Could be Andre Dawson also, but I know he was player program like last year. Based on the years they played I think it is Sutter as Fergie dipped into the 60s and Dawson into the 90s.
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@khain24_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
Possible. They stressed the NEW in new player program which could imply a new legend, or could be a red herring. Didn't deep dive into Sutcliffe's stats but overall he didn't look that good so I kind of dismissed him. But a 2nd half card could be in play based on your info, or he could be a low end awards card I guess.
If its not a new legend, my guess was Fergie. Played for the Cubbies 66-73 (Cy young in 71) and again in 81-82 to end his career. Feels like that 2 year return could be the tricky clue that SDS likes to use.
I believe the NEW refers to Mcgriff already being a program for inning two. This one is thus "new".
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@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
I'm going with a '71 Cy Young Fergie Jenkins. I don't know how useable he'll be but per 9's will be great as well as velocity & control. One of his old catchers said on his command: "I could catch him with a pair of pliers"
Cy Young is an awards card. So it could be Sutcliffe still, yet I don't see where it said its an awards card. Just that its an award winner who played in the 70s 80s.
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@ikasnu_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
I'm going with a '71 Cy Young Fergie Jenkins. I don't know how useable he'll be but per 9's will be great as well as velocity & control. One of his old catchers said on his command: "I could catch him with a pair of pliers"
Cy Young is an awards card. So it could be Sutcliffe still, yet I don't see where it said its an awards card. Just that its an award winner who played in the 70s 80s.
It'd be an odd one if it was Sutcliffe. I figured they wouldn't give him a CHC Cy card since he got traded halfway through the season from CLE.
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@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@ikasnu_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
I'm going with a '71 Cy Young Fergie Jenkins. I don't know how useable he'll be but per 9's will be great as well as velocity & control. One of his old catchers said on his command: "I could catch him with a pair of pliers"
Cy Young is an awards card. So it could be Sutcliffe still, yet I don't see where it said its an awards card. Just that its an award winner who played in the 70s 80s.
It'd be an odd one if it was Sutcliffe. I figured they wouldn't give him a CHC Cy card since he got traded halfway through the season from CLE.
Except he was lights out for Chicago. He was already good for the Indians, but when he went to Chicago he was even better. Thats why I think its a 2nd half card.
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@hoboadam_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
Sutter.
That is all.
I wanted to go out of the box, think of a new legend opposed to the same recycled ones we get year in, year out.
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Doesn't say new on the schedule and an all star card. Doesn't say new legend, tweet says award winner that played in the 70s and 80s. It's Bruce Sutter
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@ikasnu_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@ikasnu_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
I'm going with a '71 Cy Young Fergie Jenkins. I don't know how useable he'll be but per 9's will be great as well as velocity & control. One of his old catchers said on his command: "I could catch him with a pair of pliers"
Cy Young is an awards card. So it could be Sutcliffe still, yet I don't see where it said its an awards card. Just that its an award winner who played in the 70s 80s.
It'd be an odd one if it was Sutcliffe. I figured they wouldn't give him a CHC Cy card since he got traded halfway through the season from CLE.
Except he was lights out for Chicago. He was already good for the Indians, but when he went to Chicago he was even better. Thats why I think its a 2nd half card.
I wouldn't be shocked if we don't get Rick this time if he gets a 2nd half though. It's a pretty stark contrast when you look at those numbers before and after the trade.
1984, with CLE: 4-5, 5.15 ERA in 94.1 IP, 15 G, 1.664 WHIP
1984, with CHC: 16-1, 2.69 ERA in 150.1 IP, 20 G, 1.078 WHIPEDIT: Not confirmed to be an award card. The wild comparison will remain but I'm editing my incorrect assertion.
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@the_dragon1912 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
Doesn't say new on the schedule and an all star card. Doesn't say new legend, tweet says award winner that played in the 70s and 80s. It's Bruce Sutter
Nice carch with the All-Star. In that case it could be a 1987 Sutcliffe who finished 2nd in CY Young voting. You're likely right it is probably Sutter, but Sutcliffe still fits the criteria, only downside being he would be a new legend.
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If it is a new legend could be Steve Carlton, If not could be Jenkins, Guidry, or Vida Blue,
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@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
I'm going with a '71 Cy Young Fergie Jenkins. I don't know how useable he'll be but per 9's will be great as well as velocity & control. One of his old catchers said on his command: "I could catch him with a pair of pliers"
Sutcliffe won a Cy Young in 1984.
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@wiryhooligan22 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
I'm going with a '71 Cy Young Fergie Jenkins. I don't know how useable he'll be but per 9's will be great as well as velocity & control. One of his old catchers said on his command: "I could catch him with a pair of pliers"
Sutcliffe won a Cy Young in 1984.
See previous reply from me, it was a split season where he was bad with the Indians then won the award the remainder of the season with the Cubs.
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@dbarmonstar_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
If it is a new legend could be Steve Carlton, If not could be Jenkins, Guidry, or Vida Blue,
Guidry works but Vida and Fergie both played in the 60s, so depends how strict they are by that. I think It's Sutter though
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@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
Williams won ROTY, but he didn't play into the 80s, so, that rules him out.
Greg Maddux won Cy Youngs, but didn't play in the 70s.
Sutcliffe won the Cy Young in 84, played in the 70s and 80s, so it's gotta be him if it's a new legend.
If it's not a new legend, it could be Dawson, Sutter, or Fergie. There are a few gold glovers and silver sluggers in there, but they certainly aren't legend-worthy (looking at you, Jody Davis)
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@wiryhooligan22 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
Williams won ROTY, but he didn't play into the 80s, so, that rules him out.
Greg Maddux won Cy Youngs, but didn't play in the 70s.
Sutcliffe won the Cy Young in 84, played in the 70s and 80s, so it's gotta be him if it's a new legend.
If it's not a new legend, it could be Dawson, Sutter, or Fergie. There are a few gold glovers and silver sluggers in there, but they certainly aren't legend-worthy (looking at you, Jody Davis)
Lost Dawson's rights, Fergie played 2 years in the 60s. Sutter or Guidry
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Unless Bruce Sutter was in the game previously I’d say Fergie. They wouldn’t put Andre as a program back to back years and Sandberg already has a high diamond
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@the_dragon1912 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@wiryhooligan22 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
Williams won ROTY, but he didn't play into the 80s, so, that rules him out.
Greg Maddux won Cy Youngs, but didn't play in the 70s.
Sutcliffe won the Cy Young in 84, played in the 70s and 80s, so it's gotta be him if it's a new legend.
If it's not a new legend, it could be Dawson, Sutter, or Fergie. There are a few gold glovers and silver sluggers in there, but they certainly aren't legend-worthy (looking at you, Jody Davis)
Lost Dawson's rights, Fergie played 2 years in the 60s. Sutter or Guidry
I'm not seeing the logic on Guidry. The tweet shows a picture of the shadow of the Wrigley flags...Guidry never played outside New York.
Fergie played from 65-83. The tweet says played in the 70s-80s. Doesn't necessarily mean that excludes the 60s.
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@wiryhooligan22 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
Williams won ROTY, but he didn't play into the 80s, so, that rules him out.
Greg Maddux won Cy Youngs, but didn't play in the 70s.
Sutcliffe won the Cy Young in 84, played in the 70s and 80s, so it's gotta be him if it's a new legend.
If it's not a new legend, it could be Dawson, Sutter, or Fergie. There are a few gold glovers and silver sluggers in there, but they certainly aren't legend-worthy (looking at you, Jody Davis)
Jody Davis didn't play in the 70s anyway.
Only assumption I'm making is the program card was a Cub in both the 70s and 80s (they don't claim this at all) so this to me says Fergie or Sutter. Both won CY Youngs and were All stars with the Cubs. Also why I dont think Sutcliffe would be it as he started as a Dodger.
Doesnt say they only played in the 70's and 80s and as I noted earlier, Fergies 2 year return in the 80s might be forgettable enough. SDS loves using weird things like this as potential misleading clues.
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@khain24_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@wiryhooligan22 said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
@anoraka_psn said in I believe we are getting a new Legend on Friday. Rick Sutcliffe:
They did say that it's an award card. That rules out Billy Williams, Maddux & Sutcliffe.
Williams won ROTY, but he didn't play into the 80s, so, that rules him out.
Greg Maddux won Cy Youngs, but didn't play in the 70s.
Sutcliffe won the Cy Young in 84, played in the 70s and 80s, so it's gotta be him if it's a new legend.
If it's not a new legend, it could be Dawson, Sutter, or Fergie. There are a few gold glovers and silver sluggers in there, but they certainly aren't legend-worthy (looking at you, Jody Davis)
Jody Davis didn't play in the 70s anyway.
Only assumption I'm making is the program card was a Cub in both the 70s and 80s (they don't claim this at all) so this to me says Fergie or Sutter. Both won CY Youngs and were All stars with the Cubs. Also why I dont think Sutcliffe would be it as he started as a Dodger.
Doesnt say they only played in the 70's and 80s and as I noted earlier, Fergies 2 year return in the 80s might be forgettable enough. SDS loves using weird things like this as potential misleading clues.
The Jody Davis was a joke. He wasn't very good.
As for the 70s and 80s, I don't know that it necessarily means they were a cub in both decades. But the only substantial players that won awards for the cubs that also played in the 70s-80s are Dawson, Fergie, Sutcliffe, and Sutter. If the all caps NEW means anything, then the only one of those it could be is Sutcliffe, as we've had Dawson, Fergie, and Sutter before. Someone above mentioned they lost the rights to Dawson, I don't even know where to find that info, but if that's the case, then Fergie, Sutter, or Sutcliffe would be the only options.
