Take R2ing out of the game.
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@cbpm72_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
"batter tools" = bat and helmet, maybe gloves (unless you're Moises Alou).
I'm not currently using PPP but R2 has been held down against me after pitch selection so def an issue. Visible this year with the no-pitch flashing up, but evident in '20 as well. So I guess the "batter tools" argument is pretty much kaput, but we all know most people relentlessly clicking R2 aren't accessing their "batter tools."
Quick pitch has been an issue for 4 or 5 years so no it's not kaput. I have said spamming R2 is wrong. But getting rid of R2 altogether is not the fix.
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Im talking about r2 spammers
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@imdfc_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
If a pitcher tries to play at a pace I am do not want to play at, I have exactly 1(one) tool to stop him.
If the game is too fast fkr you go offline.
Seriously, just be ready. I don’t want ranked games to last longer because you want to pretend you’re mike trout or Derek jeter and go back and forth ten times on of it will be a fastball or slider.
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@grizzbear55_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
I wasn't upset at you at all!
Just this topic and how they are not recognizing both issues only R2. Which leads me to believe the ones pushing so hard to remove it are probabally the Quick pitch spammers and with R2 out of the way they have a new way to cheese.
Ok, all good. You went off on your post about how no one mentioned input issues when hitting and I was like Umm I legit just did in my post about creating a 2 second freeze to help with this issue. It just threw me off when you said your done with the mode after my post, especially when I seemed to be the only one who attempted to fix both sides of the issue lol but I get your frustration, at the end of the day it’s an exploit that people abuse on both sides, I’ve been r2’d enough to be annoyed by it and I’ve been quick pitched enough times where I wasn’t able to change my pitcher, so I now try and give extra time to opponents before I throw the first pitch their pitcher (unless someone is a bunt dancing, r2 spamming, quick pitching, pause abusing tool) then I quick pitch their pitcher haha
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I use R2 appropriately I believe I only use it if I need to take a look at where we've been throughout the at bat and like many I assume when the game is just starting and when a new pitcher comes in. I have occasions where I will decline using it so my opponent doesn't think I'm using it on him but I'm 43 have 2 kids and get distracted so I will at times go back for a second even a third look if it's a important at bat. When I'm pitching I wait and like to pitch at a slower pace on my own clock at the speed I'm comfortable it varies. I think its pretty easy to spot when it's being abused and it's also for me anyway pretty easy to identify when I'm playing someone who is just thinking there way through a game. So I guess my question is since I would assume most who play this game played real baseball and know it's not fast break basketball nor should it be Nomar Garciaparra every AB why is it such a big deal that even when you know your opponent is most likely just thinking there way through an at bat people are in such a hurry or is is for the speed pitchers the only way to be effective is to rush becuse of a lack of ability to out think the other guy or is it rythm I'm just curious
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@lil_ramram12_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Also funny how most R2 holders have it so we can't message them. They can't handle the smoke, bunch of babies who never even played HS ball.
I mean most people use R2 to see what pitches were thrown and try and guess the next pitch. The issue isnt the player its the game
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I guess my general thinking is if they just took out certain things that people spam or exploit then there would be no game at all. No R2, no high and inside fastballs/sinkers, no bunts, no baserunning (return to 1B on pitchouts or scoring from second on slow infield ground ball animations), or any of the other things people have complained about over the years. I haven't personally encountered someone spamming R2 yet but haven't played a ton of online games. I also don't use pinpoint yet so I really don't have much of a relevant opinion. I just feel it's one of those things that's not going away, and what separates the good from the great will be how players navigate it.
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@saucemoney89_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@lil_ramram12_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Also funny how most R2 holders have it so we can't message them. They can't handle the smoke, bunch of babies who never even played HS ball.
I mean most people use R2 to see what pitches were thrown and try and guess the next pitch. The issue isnt the player its the game
We talkin about two separate things here.
Im complaining and most others are because of ppl spamming R2 to interupt pitching motion.
Pressung and holdin R2 to checknpitch locations or pitch types is an entirely differwnt thing.
Try and keep up. Thats for the rest of you as well
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@yankblan_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@killerpresence4 said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@yankblan_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@mathman5072_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Serious question...is it okay to hold r2 at the beginning of every at bat to see how you were pitched in the previous at bat?
On this same topic, it is nice that you can see when the other player is holding r2. So, you can wait to start your pitch until they stop.
Except some do it as you wind up and if you use PPP, it screws up with your meter and you throw meatballs
First thing, once you begin the analog action for ppp, r2 can no longer be used. So instead of trying to pitch at turbo speed take your time between pitches. If someone is r2 spamming that’s the remedy.
Not true; if it’s used during the wind up/pitch specific movement of the sequence, the pull down part doesn’t respond and it’s either a ball in the backstop, a beanball or a fat one down the middle.
Yup there is a time during the pull down you can time R2 and mess everything up
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I dont know what planet yall live on where the pitcher dictates the pace of play lol, do you even watch baseball, as a serial r2er idgaf about your breaking animation, balking cry baby attitude, the batter dictates when he is ready to be pitched to just like irl, you wanna take r2 away and balk home 7 runs a game, im down for that too lol
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@i-iydroponics said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
I dont know what planet yall live on where the pitcher dictates the pace of play lol, do you even watch baseball, as a serial r2er idgaf about your breaking animation, balking cry baby attitude, the batter dictates when he is ready to be pitched to just like irl, you wanna take r2 away and balk home 7 runs a game, im down for that too lol
The batter does not dictate pace of play. If the batter takes to long to get in the box the ump will tell the pitcher to pitch. The pitcher dictates everything
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Only low baseball iq button mashers complain about r2
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@untchable704_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Just have the pitches from previous ABs pop up like hot zones. Then all the dudes fake whining about that could see their pitches. Put the pitchers pitches on the right side down of the screen at all times. Why not? Hell put the batters stats there too.
By the way speaking of hot zones. Let me toggle that off too. It annoys me, I don’t use it and it’s more of a distraction than anything.
Nobody uses it for any purpose other than to try to mess with the pitchers.
Lol quick pitching. Online games take like 45 minutes. Y’all want it to take longer so you can do the downward dog yoga stretch before each pitch? Gtfoh.
It should 100% be removed. It’s time for SDS to get that done and appease 90+% of their player base.
I 100% these are good suggestions for QOL and actually do believe SDS plays their game. Give it a shot I bet y’all love it.
Glad I didn't go straight to the bottom to type my thoughts, cuz this exactly. Just make both the batter and pitching screeens the same.
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@i-iydroponics said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
I dont know what planet yall live on where the pitcher dictates the pace of play lol, do you even watch baseball, as a serial r2er idgaf about your breaking animation, balking cry baby attitude, the batter dictates when he is ready to be pitched to just like irl, you wanna take r2 away and balk home 7 runs a game, im down for that too lol
Did you even read what the problem is or just spewing gatbage out ya mouth?
Once a freaking again, We dont give a poo about pace of play, this isnt a quick pitch issue.
Its a deliberate exploit being used by folks just like you who dont even know whats being diacussed.Stop spamming R2 in our delivery motion to fook up the pitch.
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@i-iydroponics said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Only low baseball iq button mashers complain about r2
Well what's your excuse then?
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@spc_garza_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@i-iydroponics said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
I dont know what planet yall live on where the pitcher dictates the pace of play lol, do you even watch baseball, as a serial r2er idgaf about your breaking animation, balking cry baby attitude, the batter dictates when he is ready to be pitched to just like irl, you wanna take r2 away and balk home 7 runs a game, im down for that too lol
The batter does not dictate pace of play. If the batter takes to long to get in the box the ump will tell the pitcher to pitch. The pitcher dictates everything
This just simply is not true. The umpire will put the ball in play/hold up play until the batter and umpire are ready.
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Someone thats watched a baseball game!?!?!
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@dcmo3_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@lil_ramram12_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Also funny how most R2 holders have it so we can't message them. They can't handle the smoke, bunch of babies who never even played HS ball.
Are you friggin kidding. You try quick pitching a baseball team in real life, and they'll have their dugout on you. They don't like it, and neither do I. Frankly, they should put balks back on, and then this wouldn't be happening. Put on balks, and get rid of R2 (although it does show your confidence level).
With no runners on base there is no balks, no this would not stop.
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@dbarmonstar_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@dcmo3_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
@lil_ramram12_psn said in Take R2ing out of the game.:
Also funny how most R2 holders have it so we can't message them. They can't handle the smoke, bunch of babies who never even played HS ball.
Are you friggin kidding. You try quick pitching a baseball team in real life, and they'll have their dugout on you. They don't like it, and neither do I. Frankly, they should put balks back on, and then this wouldn't be happening. Put on balks, and get rid of R2 (although it does show your confidence level).
With no runners on base there is no balks, no this would not stop.
Would be a ball though.
