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    @chuckclc_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    I would say use the guy that has the highest OPS in baseball by far, but we all know that they cannot do that. It would be unfair tom he rest of the league. Guy already has a 95 card.

    When you're underrated, you're underrated. Trout needs to be a 99.

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    @cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in April POTM Predictions:

    @iwhites31_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    People forget that MLB decides who wins this, not the Show. It's gonna be Trout and Acuna or Winker. Possibly even Degrom or Burnes. We are almost guaranteed to get the NL winner as the lightning card.

    POTM in the show is selected by the dev team. They base it off of how a players live series card is rated and should preform vs how the real player preformed in a given month.

    So guys like Vlad Jr, Burns, JD, Olsen are playing at a diamond level in real life but only have silver or golds.

    Trout and Acuna based on their performance so far are pretty much living up to expectations card vs real life.

    This is false. The card that they make in the game is one of the two players that win the MLB player of the month award for their respective league. It is not an SDS decision of who wins the award. It is an SDS decision of which one of the two they pick to make the card for. Trust me dude I have played this game since before player of the month cards were even a thing in this game. Go look back at some of the past ones from previous years. They all won the MLB player of the month award.

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    youre all nuts.

    DEGROM. period.

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    @iwhites31_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in April POTM Predictions:

    @iwhites31_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    People forget that MLB decides who wins this, not the Show. It's gonna be Trout and Acuna or Winker. Possibly even Degrom or Burnes. We are almost guaranteed to get the NL winner as the lightning card.

    POTM in the show is selected by the dev team. They base it off of how a players live series card is rated and should preform vs how the real player preformed in a given month.

    So guys like Vlad Jr, Burns, JD, Olsen are playing at a diamond level in real life but only have silver or golds.

    Trout and Acuna based on their performance so far are pretty much living up to expectations card vs real life.

    This is false. The card that they make in the game is one of the two players that win the MLB player of the month award for their respective league. It is not an SDS decision of who wins the award. It is an SDS decision of which one of the two they pick to make the card for. Trust me dude I have played this game since before player of the month cards were even a thing in this game. Go look back at some of the past ones from previous years. They all won the MLB player of the month award.

    This applies to the "ultimate" or "final" POTM card only I think. There are like 6 others each month that get awarded based on previous posters statement...based on real life performance and current ratings (IE silvers/bronzes getting boosts to gold/low diamond for exceeding expectations).

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    Just out of curiosity, the POTM cards come out today correct? I'm assuming this because it's the end of the month but I forget if we had to wait a extra week last year. Yes I know this is probably a stupid question

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    I just sold every card I own to get Trout last night, so I don't care, I need someone!

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    @schwizzle_nizzle said in April POTM Predictions:

    I just sold every card I own to get Trout last night, so I don't care, I need someone!

    I'm 30k away from Trout now. Hoping that the market is good today so I can close in on him.

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    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

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    @samguenther1987 said in April POTM Predictions:

    @schwizzle_nizzle said in April POTM Predictions:

    I just sold every card I own to get Trout last night, so I don't care, I need someone!

    I'm 30k away from Trout now. Hoping that the market is good today so I can close in on him.

    I put in a buy order for like 363k and I wasn't getting any movement, so I went and sold my Nathan Evoldi card for like 6.3k and it gave me enough to Buy Now. No way was I going to miss the fish GOAT. I'll get all the other cards back anyways; Belli was the only high diamond I sold to get Trout.

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    @iwhites31_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in April POTM Predictions:

    @iwhites31_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    People forget that MLB decides who wins this, not the Show. It's gonna be Trout and Acuna or Winker. Possibly even Degrom or Burnes. We are almost guaranteed to get the NL winner as the lightning card.

    POTM in the show is selected by the dev team. They base it off of how a players live series card is rated and should preform vs how the real player preformed in a given month.

    So guys like Vlad Jr, Burns, JD, Olsen are playing at a diamond level in real life but only have silver or golds.

    Trout and Acuna based on their performance so far are pretty much living up to expectations card vs real life.

    This is false. The card that they make in the game is one of the two players that win the MLB player of the month award for their respective league. It is not an SDS decision of who wins the award. It is an SDS decision of which one of the two they pick to make the card for. Trust me dude I have played this game since before player of the month cards were even a thing in this game. Go look back at some of the past ones from previous years. They all won the MLB player of the month award.

    It likely matches up sometimes but not always

    August and September of 2019 is an example of this when it's was nicholas castellanos and James Paxston.

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    @schwizzle_nizzle said in April POTM Predictions:

    @samguenther1987 said in April POTM Predictions:

    @schwizzle_nizzle said in April POTM Predictions:

    I just sold every card I own to get Trout last night, so I don't care, I need someone!

    I'm 30k away from Trout now. Hoping that the market is good today so I can close in on him.

    I put in a buy order for like 363k and I wasn't getting any movement, so I went and sold my Nathan Evoldi card for like 6.3k and it gave me enough to Buy Now. No way was I going to miss the fish GOAT. I'll get all the other cards back anyways; Belli was the only high diamond I sold to get Trout.

    That's my thought as well. Best to get Trout now before he jumps to 500/600k. My hope is to make 20/30k off the POTM cards today and go from there. I sold Tim Salmon this morning because like you said I can always get him back later.

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    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

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    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

    WAR is a flawed [censored] stat because it's used completely different than it's supposed and most people don't even know the context it's supposed to be used in. Using a single month of WAR is about as misused and awful as it gets.

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    @thegoaler_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Ohtani?
    If it's Buxton, his speed might be 125!

    It's not possible to have speed over 99 is it?
    I ask because I notice players with 99 speed don't go over that when tiered up.

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    @born2bewild007_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @thegoaler_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Ohtani?
    If it's Buxton, his speed might be 125!

    It's not possible to have speed over 99 is it?
    I ask because I notice players with 99 speed don't go over that when tiered up.

    No speed stat caps at 99.

    Contact, power, vision ,discipline and clutch I believe are the only ones that exceed 99.

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    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

    WAR is a flawed [censored] stat because it's used completely different than it's supposed and most people don't even know the context it's supposed to be used in. Using a single month of WAR is about as misused and awful as it gets.

    WAR isn't a flawed stat at all. It's just taken out of context and is meant to be used as a reference instead of a be all end all..
    In this case it actually perfectly illustrates how Burnes not going deep into games despite pitching flawlessly isn't as valuable as an elite hitter or a pitcher who is going deeper (deGrom).

    I know analytics very well so we can break it down any way you want. Burnes needs to go deeper into games to be as valuable as the elite of the elite.. plain and simple.

    That K/BB though... Beauty.. reminds me of prime Halladay or Cliff Lee... But with better K rate.

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    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

    WAR is a flawed [censored] stat because it's used completely different than it's supposed and most people don't even know the context it's supposed to be used in. Using a single month of WAR is about as misused and awful as it gets.

    WAR isn't a flawed stat at all. It's just taken out of context and is meant to be used as a reference instead of a be all end all..
    In this case it actually perfectly illustrates how Burnes not going deep into games despite pitching flawlessly isn't as valuable as an elite hitter or a pitcher who is going deeper (deGrom).

    I know analytics very well so we can break it down any way you want. Burnes needs to go deeper into games to be as valuable as the elite of the elite.. plain and simple.

    That K/BB though... Beauty.. reminds me of prime Halladay or Cliff Lee... But with better K rate.

    WAR is flawed, there's no standard calculation, it relies on estimations and assumptions like blanket positional adjustments, for fielding flawed estimators like UZR, and it's in no shape found in fact, but rather a debated calculation similar to other calculations like it... For pitchers it's virtually entirely based on FIP in the Fangraphs calculation -- which is very different from the BRef calc... It's also not meant to compare players in such small samples nor nitpick to the decimal player v player.

    Put WAR aside and consider this... Every month hitters have 7-8 HR, there's 15 guys this month that have done that, multiple guys hit 400 for a month every month practically, 3 have done it this month with at least 50 PA. These hitters are having a great month but none are doing anything particularly special... Now find me another pitcher in the entirety of baseball history with 49 Ks and 0 BB in a month... Here's a hint -- you can't! He's literally the first pitcher ever in MLB history to have 40 K and 0 BB in any 4 game stretch.

    Burnes performance in April was literally historic.

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    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

    WAR is a flawed [censored] stat because it's used completely different than it's supposed and most people don't even know the context it's supposed to be used in. Using a single month of WAR is about as misused and awful as it gets.

    WAR isn't a flawed stat at all. It's just taken out of context and is meant to be used as a reference instead of a be all end all..
    In this case it actually perfectly illustrates how Burnes not going deep into games despite pitching flawlessly isn't as valuable as an elite hitter or a pitcher who is going deeper (deGrom).

    I know analytics very well so we can break it down any way you want. Burnes needs to go deeper into games to be as valuable as the elite of the elite.. plain and simple.

    That K/BB though... Beauty.. reminds me of prime Halladay or Cliff Lee... But with better K rate.

    WAR is flawed, there's no standard calculation, it relies on estimations and assumptions like blanket positional adjustments, for fielding flawed estimators like UZR, and it's in no shape found in fact, but rather a debated calculation similar to other calculations like it... For pitchers it's virtually entirely based on FIP in the Fangraphs calculation -- which is very different from the BRef calc... It's also not meant to compare players in such small samples nor nitpick to the decimal player v player.

    Put WAR aside and consider this... Every month hitters have 7-8 HR, there's 15 guys this month that have done that, multiple guys hit 400 for a month every month practically, 3 have done it this month with at least 50 PA. These hitters are having a great month but none are doing anything particularly special... Now find me another pitcher in the entirety of baseball history with 49 Ks and 0 BB in a month... Here's a hint -- you can't! He's literally the first pitcher ever in MLB history to have 40 K and 0 BB in any 4 game stretch.

    Burnes performance in April was literally historic.

    In 29 innings... You talk about small samples... Lol. Look inwards..

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    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

    WAR is a flawed [censored] stat because it's used completely different than it's supposed and most people don't even know the context it's supposed to be used in. Using a single month of WAR is about as misused and awful as it gets.

    WAR isn't a flawed stat at all. It's just taken out of context and is meant to be used as a reference instead of a be all end all..
    In this case it actually perfectly illustrates how Burnes not going deep into games despite pitching flawlessly isn't as valuable as an elite hitter or a pitcher who is going deeper (deGrom).

    I know analytics very well so we can break it down any way you want. Burnes needs to go deeper into games to be as valuable as the elite of the elite.. plain and simple.

    That K/BB though... Beauty.. reminds me of prime Halladay or Cliff Lee... But with better K rate.

    WAR is flawed, there's no standard calculation, it relies on estimations and assumptions like blanket positional adjustments, for fielding flawed estimators like UZR, and it's in no shape found in fact, but rather a debated calculation similar to other calculations like it... For pitchers it's virtually entirely based on FIP in the Fangraphs calculation -- which is very different from the BRef calc... It's also not meant to compare players in such small samples nor nitpick to the decimal player v player.

    Put WAR aside and consider this... Every month hitters have 7-8 HR, there's 15 guys this month that have done that, multiple guys hit 400 for a month every month practically, 3 have done it this month with at least 50 PA. These hitters are having a great month but none are doing anything particularly special... Now find me another pitcher in the entirety of baseball history with 49 Ks and 0 BB in a month... Here's a hint -- you can't! He's literally the first pitcher ever in MLB history to have 40 K and 0 BB in any 4 game stretch.

    Burnes performance in April was literally historic.

    In 29 innings... You talk about small samples... Lol. Look inwards..

    Well yes, it's a single month. All the samples are small... Buxton doesn't even qualify for batting average leaders because he hasn't played enough... But even in a small sample a player can do extraordinary things, like 49 K : 0 BB... The hitters are just your run of the mill good months, nothing special.

    I'm honestly shocked you are poo-pooing such an outlier historic performance.

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    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @nanthrax_1_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    @notoriousheb_psn said in April POTM Predictions:

    Honestly, it needs to be Corbin Burnes. I get there hitters having a good month, but Burnes has had a month far beyond any hitter.

    1.53 ERA, 0.50 FIP, 0.545 WHIP, 15.0 SO9, 0.0 BB9

    The man has struck out 49 batters in only 29.1 innings, and has 0 walks -- ZERO.

    FORTY NINE STRIKEOUTS AND ZERO WALKS.

    He's POTM and it's not even up for discussion.

    Ya, great month! I agree. I have him in my fantasy keeper League.. killing it for me..
    But technically, he hasn't had a month beyond any hitter... He's not even top 5 in WAR because he simply hasn't gone deep into games, average under 6 innings a start in 5 starts.

    There are a handful of hitters that have been more valuable (Buxton, Trout, Vlad, Acuna) and deGrom is more valuable too.

    Being that him and Vlad are the only silvers of the bunch I say they should be the top 2 cards for potm... We will see.

    WAR is a flawed [censored] stat because it's used completely different than it's supposed and most people don't even know the context it's supposed to be used in. Using a single month of WAR is about as misused and awful as it gets.

    WAR isn't a flawed stat at all. It's just taken out of context and is meant to be used as a reference instead of a be all end all..
    In this case it actually perfectly illustrates how Burnes not going deep into games despite pitching flawlessly isn't as valuable as an elite hitter or a pitcher who is going deeper (deGrom).

    I know analytics very well so we can break it down any way you want. Burnes needs to go deeper into games to be as valuable as the elite of the elite.. plain and simple.

    That K/BB though... Beauty.. reminds me of prime Halladay or Cliff Lee... But with better K rate.

    WAR is flawed, there's no standard calculation, it relies on estimations and assumptions like blanket positional adjustments, for fielding flawed estimators like UZR, and it's in no shape found in fact, but rather a debated calculation similar to other calculations like it... For pitchers it's virtually entirely based on FIP in the Fangraphs calculation -- which is very different from the BRef calc... It's also not meant to compare players in such small samples nor nitpick to the decimal player v player.

    Put WAR aside and consider this... Every month hitters have 7-8 HR, there's 15 guys this month that have done that, multiple guys hit 400 for a month every month practically, 3 have done it this month with at least 50 PA. These hitters are having a great month but none are doing anything particularly special... Now find me another pitcher in the entirety of baseball history with 49 Ks and 0 BB in a month... Here's a hint -- you can't! He's literally the first pitcher ever in MLB history to have 40 K and 0 BB in any 4 game stretch.

    Burnes performance in April was literally historic.

    In 29 innings... You talk about small samples... Lol. Look inwards..

    Well yes, it's a single month. All the samples are small... Buxton doesn't even qualify for batting average leaders because he hasn't played enough... But even in a small sample a player can do extraordinary things, like 49 K : 0 BB... The hitters are just your run of the mill good months, nothing special.

    I'm honestly shocked you are poo-pooing such an outlier historic performance.

    I'm not.. as I said a couple times now.. what he's doing is awesome. Adding a cutter has changed him to another level. However, he's not going deep into games at all, therefore it's not as impressive being 29 innings.. his last start was not great either.. gave up a grand slam no?

    If you don't get past the 5th inning in your starts, it's a big strike against you when comparing him to an elite hitter, simple as that.

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