Too many 99s
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YOU get a 99!!! AND YOU get a 99!!!
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No thanks, i love all the options I have, especially topps now, ps, etc. Current players are more relevant then ever and that gets a big thumps up from me.
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Line up variety is cool but not at that high level of overall. Not arguing with variety but the 99a with the variety. Topps now postseason etc should be low mid 90s. Not enough golds. Too many top diamonds. Diamond is the new gold.
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Why bother having silver and gold in the game. It’s only good for BR and dumb showdown.
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I don't mind so many 99s but I wasn't a fan of them moving the diamond threshold down to 85. 90-99 for diamond and 80-89 for gold was fine with me.
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It is November. Let people have some fun and some options instead of needing to run the generic Mantle/Trout/Walker outfield in order to compete.
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People grinded all year to get these Ruth and Trout cards only to get squashed by 1 game wonder pitchers and "future" stars with nerfed cards. Oh well!
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I love all the options and lineup diversity, so I have no complaints about a lot of juiced cards. But I do think the "99 Creep" has become a bit silly. If you check the adjusted overalls on the-show-zone, you'll see that most of the "99" cards we use are actually much higher than that. For example. Gehrig has a "true" overall average of 107.96, Griffey is 107.43, Foxx is 107.39, Mantle is 106.91, etc. It reminds me of the famous Spinal Tap quote, but in reverse. In this case, why don't we just make those 99s, and make everything a little less.
Unfortunately, I think SDS has made this bed and we're all gonna have to lie in it. If they tried to go backward next year, Twitter would blow up with people complaining there aren't enough "end game" cards. Come to think of it... weren't most people whining earlier this year because they didn't start giving us 99 bosses until the 5th inning? You can never please everyone, so I guess we should just accept that 99 Jacob Stallings is going to be a thing and learn to live with it.
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I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I really want to agree with you, but the only people that use any of the topps now cards in RS are at the lower levels. The upper levels you will see Randy, Seager, Tatis, Mondesi, but almost every lineup consists of
C Foxx
1B:Gehrig/Babe
2B:Hornsby
SS: seager/Tatis
3B:Chipper(for those that have him), Sheffield
OF: A combination of Trout, Mantle, Griffey, Walker, Cobb, and now MaysYou can’t say it waters down the elite cards when people use the elite cards regardless
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I've already said it but the Finest should be the best of the year. In 18, I used deGrom, Hader, Lindor, Yelich, and Mookie in amongst the immortals. They had seasons that proved worthy of the high ratings they received.
This Fletcher card would be like giving 1993 Jay Bell a 99 with the Pirates. It's just ridiculous. Abreu, Freeman, Bauer, etc. totally fine with giving deserving players a reward. Giving a 99 to someone on every team is the equivalent of a participation trophy.
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I think current day players should have a 95, 96 overall cap unless they are breaking records. Legends and past players should be the only ones with 99 overall cards. Always respect the elders.
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@Thierry007007 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I think current day players should have a 95, 96 overall cap. Legends and past players should be the only ones with 99 overall cards. Always respect the elders.
I agree, There should only be a handful of 99s like Griffey, Mantle, Mays, Babe, Gibson, etc. Not like the 93-97 cards aren't playable
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
@Thierry007007 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I think current day players should have a 95, 96 overall cap. Legends and past players should be the only ones with 99 overall cards. Always respect the elders.
I agree, There should only be a handful of 99s like Griffey, Mantle, Mays, Babe, Gibson, etc. Not like the 93-97 cards aren't playable
I would be only ok with current day players receiving 99 overall cards if they are breaking records. Like in the case of Randy for the Rays. He deserves a 99.
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@Thierry007007 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
@Thierry007007 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I think current day players should have a 95, 96 overall cap. Legends and past players should be the only ones with 99 overall cards. Always respect the elders.
I agree, There should only be a handful of 99s like Griffey, Mantle, Mays, Babe, Gibson, etc. Not like the 93-97 cards aren't playable
I would be only ok with current day players receiving 99 overall cards if they are breaking records. Like in the case of Randy for the Rays. He deserves a 99.
Do not speak that name in the presence of a Cardinals fan....
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@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
@Thierry007007 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I think current day players should have a 95, 96 overall cap. Legends and past players should be the only ones with 99 overall cards. Always respect the elders.
I agree, There should only be a handful of 99s like Griffey, Mantle, Mays, Babe, Gibson, etc. Not like the 93-97 cards aren't playable
To most people no matter how good a 93-97 card is, it is unplayable. The 99 is just a number. People are going to use the meta cards no matter what. IMO there is no harm in giving finest cards 99s for the sale of lineup diversity. If only the top notch guys get 99s what do you get? MLB 18
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@SchnauzerFace said in Too many 99s:
I love all the options and lineup diversity, so I have no complaints about a lot of juiced cards. But I do think the "99 Creep" has become a bit silly. If you check the adjusted overalls on the-show-zone, you'll see that most of the "99" cards we use are actually much higher than that. For example. Gehrig has a "true" overall average of 107.96, Griffey is 107.43, Foxx is 107.39, Mantle is 106.91, etc. It reminds me of the famous Spinal Tap quote, but in reverse. In this case, why don't we just make those 99s, and make everything a little less.
Unfortunately, I think SDS has made this bed and we're all gonna have to lie in it. If they tried to go backward next year, Twitter would blow up with people complaining there aren't enough "end game" cards. Come to think of it... weren't most people whining earlier this year because they didn't start giving us 99 bosses until the 5th inning? You can never please everyone, so I guess we should just accept that 99 Jacob Stallings is going to be a thing and learn to live with it.
Next year all player max overall ratings go to 125 overall, so they are 26 louder.
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It’s all relative. The ‘99’ aspect of it is irrelevant. They aren’t all equally good, so it doesn’t really matter imo.
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Absolutely agree, while line up diversity and a wealth of useable options at each position is definitely a good thing, the whole thing has gone too far now. I’ve been referring to the implementation of the 125 scale and SDS logic of that time that it was a way to make the all time greats like Babe Ruth and Ted Williams stand apart from the rest of the 99s in the game. That only the best of the best were worthy of such a rating for this reason. So, I’m guessing next year they’ll have to expand to a 150 or 200 scale, given how diluted it’s now become.
Line up diversity can still be attained in DD, as it was in years gone by, without offering a selection of vanilla feeling juiced cards with 110+ in every category that are only differentiated by the card art. You get some hitters with decent contact, speed and defense, say the Gwynn or Ichiro types. You sacrifice power as a result. You get the powerful players in RF, cards like Reggie Jackson, or Stan Musial. Here, you’re sacrificing the speed and defense for more pop. Then you might get the balanced options in between, all rounders who are good, but not elite. There can be many useable options that fall into this category that promote line up diversity.
Then there are the end game players at that position. The elite, hard to obtain, much sought after cards that are the best of the best to play the game. The cards we implemented the 125 scale for. 5 tool players who can hit, run, defend and stand apart from the rest. These should be premium cards that aren’t necessarily easy to get. Throwing 110+ ratings on everything from a single game flashback to a legitimate legend tends to water down the feeling of accomplishment from finally obtaining a card like Willie Mays or Griffey, when there are a multitude of equally, or sometimes, ridiculously, better options just raining down from the skies.
You can’t really justify giving these cards better ratings than Mantle, Mays and Junior. I’m not a fan of the repeated cards either - Gavin Lux has three diamond cards already, including a 99 with 114/108 vs RHP, 91/98 vs LHP. Joe Morgan has a solitary 99 diamond with 123/107 RHP and 84/67 vs LHP. Is it just me, or is this not absolute insanity?
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@the_dragon1912 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
@Thierry007007 said in Too many 99s:
@DoIHearBossMusic said in Too many 99s:
I'm ok with actual legends getting 99s, but agree about guys with a few good days getting cards better than Babe, Musial, Mays, etc.
I know it's fictional but it really waters down the elite cards
I think current day players should have a 95, 96 overall cap. Legends and past players should be the only ones with 99 overall cards. Always respect the elders.
I agree, There should only be a handful of 99s like Griffey, Mantle, Mays, Babe, Gibson, etc. Not like the 93-97 cards aren't playable
To most people no matter how good a 93-97 card is, it is unplayable. The 99 is just a number. People are going to use the meta cards no matter what. IMO there is no harm in giving finest cards 99s for the sale of lineup diversity. If only the top notch guys get 99s what do you get? MLB 18
That's debatable. Way more people play with Posada than Travis D'Arnaud. I see more PotM Didi than Ripken. 94 Wagner is better than 99 Miller. 94 Chipper? That is quite the generalized statement you made. The are certainly players that will use the highest rated players, but also many others that use cards they feel more comfortable with.
