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@drg179 said in What a game:
@Hubijerk said in What a game:
@drg179 said in What a game:
@Hubijerk said in What a game:
Thing is, if before the game you told the Dodgers they were gonna lose it wouldn't have been a big deal, they planned for it. But losing the way they did is a pretty big kick in the gut.
Why would they plan on losing lmfaoooo
Because they only have 2 starting pitchers. They planned their schedule around wins with Kershaw and Buehler. If they can steal another win in there then great but you understand when you start bottom of the rotation guys or relievers it's likely a coin flip.
The way the game went actually gives a boost to the rays because they "stole one" and the Dodgers gave one away. But I guarantee you the coaching staff understood that it wasn't a must win. And while it wasn't must win before the 1st pitch, it certainly becomes must win when you're up with 2 outs in the 9th. More clear?
Ummm you realize Urias is 4-0 in the postseason. A team never purposely loses idiot.
I didn't say they were pueposely going to lose. And you're pretty tough calling people names over the internet.
If you don't understand there is a difference in games you should, have to, and must win, vs. games you accept as are likely to go either way then you don't understand competition.
Once you are in the situation of being ahead and needing only 1 out you HAVE to win that. It;s a much bigger let down and much more draining losing the way the Dodgers did than having it been a blowout. If you don't understand that then I don't know what to tell you.
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@Hubijerk said in What a game:
@drg179 said in What a game:
@Hubijerk said in What a game:
@drg179 said in What a game:
@Hubijerk said in What a game:
Thing is, if before the game you told the Dodgers they were gonna lose it wouldn't have been a big deal, they planned for it. But losing the way they did is a pretty big kick in the gut.
Why would they plan on losing lmfaoooo
Because they only have 2 starting pitchers. They planned their schedule around wins with Kershaw and Buehler. If they can steal another win in there then great but you understand when you start bottom of the rotation guys or relievers it's likely a coin flip.
The way the game went actually gives a boost to the rays because they "stole one" and the Dodgers gave one away. But I guarantee you the coaching staff understood that it wasn't a must win. And while it wasn't must win before the 1st pitch, it certainly becomes must win when you're up with 2 outs in the 9th. More clear?
Ummm you realize Urias is 4-0 in the postseason. A team never purposely loses idiot.
I didn't say they were pueposely going to lose. And you're pretty tough calling people names over the internet.
If you don't understand there is a difference in games you should, have to, and must win, vs. games you accept as are likely to go either way then you don't understand competition.
Once you are in the situation of being ahead and needing only 1 out you HAVE to win that. It;s a much bigger let down and much more draining losing the way the Dodgers did than having it been a blowout. If you don't understand that then I don't know what to tell you.
Ok sure.But every game in the world series should me a must win and is lmaooo
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@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
Smh horrible take buddy
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wait, i thought that Atlanta was the biggest choker in sports history?
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@drg179 said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
It was not a horrible base running decision.
Gotta force the defense to make a play there, the Rays bullpen really didn't have anyone to go for extra innings. They needed the win there
Besides, "DIDN'T EARN? even if the throw was made and Arozerana was out, that still means the other run scored, so it was earned. It certainly wasn't the Dodgers game.
Nope, Didn’t earn it. But who cares, It’s just the meaningless covid championship.
Lmao you're just a [censored] baby steelers fan 12 year old who's sad cause he's a pirates fan AND a steelers fan. Never even had a bite of any postseason.
Steelers never had a bite of any postseason? Learn football history buddy. I can't take anything you say seriously after that.
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@Kovz88 said in What a game:
@drg179 said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
It was not a horrible base running decision.
Gotta force the defense to make a play there, the Rays bullpen really didn't have anyone to go for extra innings. They needed the win there
Besides, "DIDN'T EARN? even if the throw was made and Arozerana was out, that still means the other run scored, so it was earned. It certainly wasn't the Dodgers game.
Nope, Didn’t earn it. But who cares, It’s just the meaningless covid championship.
Lmao you're just a [censored] baby steelers fan 12 year old who's sad cause he's a pirates fan AND a steelers fan. Never even had a bite of any postseason.
Steelers never had a bite of any postseason? Learn football history buddy. I can't take anything you say seriously after that.
No I know they have but definetly not recently kid.
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@drg179 said in What a game:
@Kovz88 said in What a game:
@drg179 said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
It was not a horrible base running decision.
Gotta force the defense to make a play there, the Rays bullpen really didn't have anyone to go for extra innings. They needed the win there
Besides, "DIDN'T EARN? even if the throw was made and Arozerana was out, that still means the other run scored, so it was earned. It certainly wasn't the Dodgers game.
Nope, Didn’t earn it. But who cares, It’s just the meaningless covid championship.
Lmao you're just a [censored] baby steelers fan 12 year old who's sad cause he's a pirates fan AND a steelers fan. Never even had a bite of any postseason.
Steelers never had a bite of any postseason? Learn football history buddy. I can't take anything you say seriously after that.
No I know they have but definetly not recently kid.
You probably shouldn't insult peoples intelligence when you can't even spell correctly. All you do is insult people and call everyone kid which shows how young and childish you are. Steelers were in the Super Bowl 10 years ago and have made the playoffs recently so you are wrong. Come up with intelligent arguments instead of Childish insults and you might get some respect
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wow what a powderkeg this thread is lol i have missed this beauty until today
carry on gentlemen let me get the popcorn
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@KaptinKrunch00 said in What a game:
wait, i thought that Atlanta was the biggest choker in sports history?
you are thinking about the Texas Rangers
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@DeadPhish1976 said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
It was not a horrible base running decision.
Gotta force the defense to make a play there, the Rays bullpen really didn't have anyone to go for extra innings. They needed the win there
Besides, "DIDN'T EARN? even if the throw was made and Arozerana was out, that still means the other run scored, so it was earned. It certainly wasn't the Dodgers game.
Nope, Didn’t earn it. But who cares, It’s just the meaningless covid championship.
Dude, are you a Dodger fan? This sounds like some bitter Dodger fan banter right here. If you are i get it, I'd be mad also, but cmon man the Rays earned it. Like others mentioned even if the Dodgers didn't play kickball at the end its still tied.
I am a dodger fan, the Dodgers blew it when they gave away the lead with the Three run HR. They battled back. The broken bat hit, the walk and a hit with 2 outs to Phillips who bats under .200. The Two errors by the dodgers on that last play, the stumble by Arozerana. It was a good game with some very important miscues. Taylor being in CF cause of a injury to Bellinger is why he was not in CF. Taylor miss plays the ball and bad relay, Smith does not catch the ball. One of the worst plays I have seen in a WS game since Buckner. At the end of the day it is a baseball game and the players are human. Fans have high expectations. Glad the Dodger won last night and Kershaw pitched well. Game 6 will be interesting with the dodgers bullpen.
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@eatyum said in What a game:
Lol, anyone thinking the Dodgers deserved the win after the mistakes they made either IS a Dodgers fan, or dislikes the Rays. You cannot make a case that the Dodgers deserved to win, they shot themselves in the foot.
I love the dodgers, did they deserve the win well they lost did the Rays deserve the Win it really does not matter cause they won. The 3 run HR hurt the dodger in that game granted they had the lead again in the 9th and blew it. Dodgers bounced back and won last night.
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If a team wins a game because they took advantage of the other teams mistakes yes they deserved the win. Reason they deserved the win is because they put themselves in a position to win that game. At the end the Rays put the pressure on the dodgers and the dodgers made mistakes. If the Rays did not earn that win cause of mistakes I guess no team in any sports earns wins because teams make mistakes in every game in every sport.
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@dbarmonstar said in What a game:
If a team wins a game because they took advantage of the other teams mistakes yes they deserved the win. Reason they deserved the win is because they put themselves in a position to win that game. At the end the Rays put the pressure on the dodgers and the dodgers made mistakes. If the Rays did not earn that win cause of mistakes I guess no team in any sports earns wins because teams make mistakes in every game in every sport.
Thank you for an honest and real response. These are PROFESSIONAL athletes. Does anyone in here believe these guys go home after a game and go, we don't deserve this win or this World Series trophy? Let's go give it back to the other team. I mean, did the Patriots do that when the Falcons blew that lead? Don't think so. Did the Cardinals do it when the Cruz misplayed the last out allowing them to comeback and beat the Rangers? Nope. Teams win because they play hard and stay with it. There's bad calls every single game, but the players on the field win or lose the game and those outcomes have some element of influence from the coaching decisions too.
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@theu715 said in What a game:
@dbarmonstar said in What a game:
If a team wins a game because they took advantage of the other teams mistakes yes they deserved the win. Reason they deserved the win is because they put themselves in a position to win that game. At the end the Rays put the pressure on the dodgers and the dodgers made mistakes. If the Rays did not earn that win cause of mistakes I guess no team in any sports earns wins because teams make mistakes in every game in every sport.
Thank you for an honest and real response. These are PROFESSIONAL athletes. Does anyone in here believe these guys go home after a game and go, we don't deserve this win or this World Series trophy? Let's go give it back to the other team. I mean, did the Patriots do that when the Falcons blew that lead? Don't think so. Did the Cardinals do it when the Cruz misplayed the last out allowing them to comeback and beat the Rangers? Nope. Teams win because they play hard and stay with it. There's bad calls every single game, but the players on the field win or lose the game and those outcomes have some element of influence from the coaching decisions too.
I agree the players win on the field but there have been times where umps or Refs make some bad calls at very crucial times in games that sway the outcome. The biggest one in my memory is the 1985 World Series. Cards vs Royals blown call at first base.
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@dbarmonstar said in What a game:
@theu715 said in What a game:
@dbarmonstar said in What a game:
If a team wins a game because they took advantage of the other teams mistakes yes they deserved the win. Reason they deserved the win is because they put themselves in a position to win that game. At the end the Rays put the pressure on the dodgers and the dodgers made mistakes. If the Rays did not earn that win cause of mistakes I guess no team in any sports earns wins because teams make mistakes in every game in every sport.
Thank you for an honest and real response. These are PROFESSIONAL athletes. Does anyone in here believe these guys go home after a game and go, we don't deserve this win or this World Series trophy? Let's go give it back to the other team. I mean, did the Patriots do that when the Falcons blew that lead? Don't think so. Did the Cardinals do it when the Cruz misplayed the last out allowing them to comeback and beat the Rangers? Nope. Teams win because they play hard and stay with it. There's bad calls every single game, but the players on the field win or lose the game and those outcomes have some element of influence from the coaching decisions too.
I agree the players win on the field but there have been times where umps or Refs make some bad calls at very crucial times in games that sway the outcome. The biggest one in my memory is the 1985 World Series. Cards vs Royals blown call at first base.
Definitely there are terrible calls in sports by officials that affect the outcome of games, but I don't believe games/series are won or lost based on bad calls. The Seahawks could've run the ball and won their super bowl possibly, but that call did not lose the game. They had chances before that to be better. The Hurricanes (I'm a diehard Canes fan my whole life) did not lose to Ohio State because of the officials. They should've been better throughout the game. The Rays are not losing this series because of some bad calls behind the plate (see strike called on Wendle for Kershaw last night). They're losing because they can't execute pitches and get the Dodgers out. I disagree with some of the managerial decisions Cash makes, but we don't lose because of him, we lose because we don't execute or the other team executes better.
Maybe the most egregious mistake calls that actually affected an outcome would be the perfect game that Galarraga was throwing and Joyce called the runner safe at first. Galarraga could have struck him out, but he made a good enough pitch to get a ground out that was played perfectly. The Tigers won the game still, but Galarraga lost the perfect game. Galarraga didn't let the call affect him and he finished the game. That's about as close as I can think of of the outcome being changed by an official or referee.
Who knows though, maybe I'm just wrong, but I always like what James Shields would say when he pitched for the Rays and wasn't getting the win that he wanted for the team. "If you don't like it, pitch better." That is real and it's being personally accountable for a result.
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Dodgers baby!!! leggooooo
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@theu715 said in What a game:
@dbarmonstar said in What a game:
@theu715 said in What a game:
@dbarmonstar said in What a game:
If a team wins a game because they took advantage of the other teams mistakes yes they deserved the win. Reason they deserved the win is because they put themselves in a position to win that game. At the end the Rays put the pressure on the dodgers and the dodgers made mistakes. If the Rays did not earn that win cause of mistakes I guess no team in any sports earns wins because teams make mistakes in every game in every sport.
Thank you for an honest and real response. These are PROFESSIONAL athletes. Does anyone in here believe these guys go home after a game and go, we don't deserve this win or this World Series trophy? Let's go give it back to the other team. I mean, did the Patriots do that when the Falcons blew that lead? Don't think so. Did the Cardinals do it when the Cruz misplayed the last out allowing them to comeback and beat the Rangers? Nope. Teams win because they play hard and stay with it. There's bad calls every single game, but the players on the field win or lose the game and those outcomes have some element of influence from the coaching decisions too.
I agree the players win on the field but there have been times where umps or Refs make some bad calls at very crucial times in games that sway the outcome. The biggest one in my memory is the 1985 World Series. Cards vs Royals blown call at first base.
Definitely there are terrible calls in sports by officials that affect the outcome of games, but I don't believe games/series are won or lost based on bad calls. The Seahawks could've run the ball and won their super bowl possibly, but that call did not lose the game. They had chances before that to be better. The Hurricanes (I'm a diehard Canes fan my whole life) did not lose to Ohio State because of the officials. They should've been better throughout the game. The Rays are not losing this series because of some bad calls behind the plate (see strike called on Wendle for Kershaw last night). They're losing because they can't execute pitches and get the Dodgers out. I disagree with some of the managerial decisions Cash makes, but we don't lose because of him, we lose because we don't execute or the other team executes better.
Maybe the most egregious mistake calls that actually affected an outcome would be the perfect game that Galarraga was throwing and Joyce called the runner safe at first. Galarraga could have struck him out, but he made a good enough pitch to get a ground out that was played perfectly. The Tigers won the game still, but Galarraga lost the perfect game. Galarraga didn't let the call affect him and he finished the game. That's about as close as I can think of of the outcome being changed by an official or referee.
Who knows though, maybe I'm just wrong, but I always like what James Shields would say when he pitched for the Rays and wasn't getting the win that he wanted for the team. "If you don't like it, pitch better." That is real and it's being personally accountable for a result.
I do agree, I do like that Baseball has challenges for replays. Yes players could always play better and do not leave it to the umps or ref to make a bad call, with that said refs and umps do make bad calls and it does affect the outcome. You can take any game that had a bad call at the end and find places in that game where players could have changed the outcome as well.
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@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
It was not a horrible base running decision.
Gotta force the defense to make a play there, the Rays bullpen really didn't have anyone to go for extra innings. They needed the win there
Besides, "DIDN'T EARN? even if the throw was made and Arozerana was out, that still means the other run scored, so it was earned. It certainly wasn't the Dodgers game.
Nope, Didn’t earn it. But who cares, It’s just the meaningless covid championship.
Plenty of people care, and plenty of people don't think it's meaningless. I've seen way more people say it counts then it doesn't.
I really don't care if you don't believe it counts, because it doesn't effect my belief that it does at all
#Raysup
lol!!!!!
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@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
@eatyum said in What a game:
@JediOfArgonath said in What a game:
Respect? Dude made a HORRIBLE base running decision and was dead to rights. Dodgers just commited the biggest choke job in sports history. Rays were handed a game they didn’t earn. Oh well, At least it’s not a real World Series.
It was not a horrible base running decision.
Gotta force the defense to make a play there, the Rays bullpen really didn't have anyone to go for extra innings. They needed the win there
Besides, "DIDN'T EARN? even if the throw was made and Arozerana was out, that still means the other run scored, so it was earned. It certainly wasn't the Dodgers game.
Nope, Didn’t earn it. But who cares, It’s just the meaningless covid championship.
Plenty of people care, and plenty of people don't think it's meaningless. I've seen way more people say it counts then it doesn't.
I really don't care if you don't believe it counts, because it doesn't effect my belief that it does at all
#Raysup
lol!!!!!
Lol what? I still stand by that statement, doesn't matter if the Rays lost, the Dodgers are legitimate champions, no asterisk.
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