Luis Robert
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But as we all saw in the playoffs, you get him away from that 7th spot in the lineup and actually get some protection for the young man and he's excellent. I don't know about you, but I like a little context with my numbers.
He went 1-4 twice and 2-5 today hitting 6th with Nomar Mazara and his .228 average hitting behind him. He wasn’t really in any better spot in the lineup and wasn’t exactly awesome for the series.
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@DBBG1515 said in Luis Robert:
@NCStateHokie said in Luis Robert:
Based on that homer I suspect we see his card go straight to diamond. At the very least he'll get a special 99 free diamond for hitting a long bomb. #2020Robert4presidente
Ha. I said earlier I expect the three 9th inning bosses to be retro future star John Smoltz, 99 postseason Luis Robert, and some Padre.
Tatis 125 overall super boss!
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@DBBG1515 said in Luis Robert:
But as we all saw in the playoffs, you get him away from that 7th spot in the lineup and actually get some protection for the young man and he's excellent. I don't know about you, but I like a little context with my numbers.
He went 1-4 twice and 2-5 today hitting 6th with Nomar Mazara and his .228 average hitting behind him. He wasn’t really in any better spot in the lineup and wasn’t exactly awesome for the series.
One of the beauties about baseball is that the box-score doesn't come close to telling the whole story. I'm going to leave it at that as I don't feel like arguing about which one of our favorite team's rookies had a "better" September when in fact both of them struggled immensely.
If you can't wrap your head around how or why context is valuable in a sport such as baseball, I'm not going to be the one that teaches you that it is.
Edit: I see this whole "Kyle Lewis vs. Luis Robert" topic has been a real fixation of yours based on your post history. I didn't mean to insult one of your favorite players.
I suppose we all have our own opinions and reasons why we think one thing or another; it should suffice when I say I've just really enjoyed Luis Robert's defensive play. When you've seen guys like Melky Cabrera, Eloy Jimenez, Nicky Delmonico, and Dayan Viciedo patrol the outfield in the last 10 years, you begin to realize how important a strong fielder is out there.
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@BodamEscapePlan said in Luis Robert:
@DBBG1515 said in Luis Robert:
But as we all saw in the playoffs, you get him away from that 7th spot in the lineup and actually get some protection for the young man and he's excellent. I don't know about you, but I like a little context with my numbers.
He went 1-4 twice and 2-5 today hitting 6th with Nomar Mazara and his .228 average hitting behind him. He wasn’t really in any better spot in the lineup and wasn’t exactly awesome for the series.
One of the beauties about baseball is that the box-score doesn't come close to telling the whole story. I'm going to leave it at that as I don't feel like arguing about which one of our favorite team's rookies had a "better" September when in fact both of them struggled immensely.
If you can't wrap your head around how or why context is valuable in a sport such as baseball, I'm not going to be the one that teaches you that it is.
I'm not a fan of either team, and sorry I don't know who else to put this, but it annoys me that you portray that Robert is basically the intellectuals choice when it comes to ROTY, when in fact it's the opposite. The casual fan will say Robert because of some flashy web gems.
Picking Robert is not some deep introspective thought process, it's the easy surface level choice.
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@eatyum said in Luis Robert:
@BodamEscapePlan said in Luis Robert:
@DBBG1515 said in Luis Robert:
But as we all saw in the playoffs, you get him away from that 7th spot in the lineup and actually get some protection for the young man and he's excellent. I don't know about you, but I like a little context with my numbers.
He went 1-4 twice and 2-5 today hitting 6th with Nomar Mazara and his .228 average hitting behind him. He wasn’t really in any better spot in the lineup and wasn’t exactly awesome for the series.
One of the beauties about baseball is that the box-score doesn't come close to telling the whole story. I'm going to leave it at that as I don't feel like arguing about which one of our favorite team's rookies had a "better" September when in fact both of them struggled immensely.
If you can't wrap your head around how or why context is valuable in a sport such as baseball, I'm not going to be the one that teaches you that it is.
I'm not a fan of either team, and sorry I don't know who else to put this, but it annoys me that you portray that Robert is basically the intellectuals choice when it comes to ROTY, when in fact it's the opposite. The casual fan will say Robert because of some flashy web gems.
Picking Robert is not some deep introspective thought process, it's the easy surface level choice.
This!
Robert was basically a flashier Kevin Keirmaier this year. Fun fact, if he won ROY he would have the lowest BA ever for a ROY winner. The voters that look at the substance are not throwing their votes that direction over the guy that was at least competent at every aspect of the game.
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@DBBG1515 @eatyum
I suppose we all have our own opinions and reasons why we think one thing or another; it should suffice when I say I've just really enjoyed Luis Robert's defensive play. When you've seen guys like Melky Cabrera, Eloy Jimenez, Nicky Delmonico, and Dayan Viciedo patrol the outfield in the last 10 years, you begin to realize how important a strong fielder is out there.
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@BodamEscapePlan said in Luis Robert:
@DBBG1515 @eatyum
I suppose we all have our own opinions and reasons why we think one thing or another; it should suffice when I say I've just really enjoyed Luis Robert's defensive play. When you've seen guys like Melky Cabrera, Eloy Jimenez, Nicky Delmonico, and Dayan Viciedo patrol the outfield in the last 10 years, you begin to realize how important a strong fielder is out there.
As you should enjoy that, I'm not trying to say Robert is some scrub or that is fielding doesn't matter. He is a dynamite player and the sky is the limit in terms of ceiling.
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@eatyum said in Luis Robert:
@BodamEscapePlan said in Luis Robert:
@DBBG1515 @eatyum
I suppose we all have our own opinions and reasons why we think one thing or another; it should suffice when I say I've just really enjoyed Luis Robert's defensive play. When you've seen guys like Melky Cabrera, Eloy Jimenez, Nicky Delmonico, and Dayan Viciedo patrol the outfield in the last 10 years, you begin to realize how important a strong fielder is out there.
As you should enjoy that, I'm not trying to say Robert is some scrub or that is fielding doesn't matter. He is a dynamite player and the sky is the limit in terms of ceiling.
I think this whole discussion got off on the wrong foot with my first reply which I regret posting.
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Whoever ends up winning the award, if I had the choice to pick either Kyle Lewis or Luis Robert for my franchise moving forward, I would pick Luis Robert in a heartbeat and without hesitation. That's not a knock on Kyle Lewis, I think he had a really good season and is a bright spot for the Mariners. But Luis Robert is just different.
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Robert might have a better overall tool set, but that September probably tanked him getting ROTY. It lowered his overall BA to 230 or something like that. His WAR is probably the only thing keeping him in contention for it. I've just never seen someone win ROTY having that low of a batting average.
With Kyle Lewis BA and WAR actually being higher, I dont think his worse defense is gonna be enough to let Robert snag it.
I dont think the argument that Robert hitting 7th will be enough either. The guys hitting around Lewis aren't that good.
That all said, Robert seems to have more potential for the future - especially with everything he can already do.
Either way we will see. I've invested in both, so I really hope its one of these two.
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