Chris sale worth 250k?
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Supply & demand. BR cards cost more because there are less of them in circulation.
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@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.SDS has literally no control on the market prices. Thats all player controlled.
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@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
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@Kovz88 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.SDS has literally no control on the market prices. Thats all player controlled.
They do have some control. At a minimum they will not allow bids and prices that are too out of range. SDS does not want to see the market ruin the game. There are rules. They also have control over stub value by setting the cost of stubs, having stub sales, and controlling stub rewards. This causes the volume of stubs available in the market to change and thus affects prices enormously. Although they keep it the same, SDS controls sales tax rate. They control which cards can be sold and which cannot be. They control the quick sale price. They are in complete control of card supply as they are the only ones who create the cards and determine how they are attained. There are many ways that SDS can control, or at least affect, the card market. There is also potential for market manipulation, but I am not going to accuse them of anything shady.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
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Chris Sale is 100% worth it. I don’t say that very often of cards over 200k, but this one holds its weight
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@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Kovz88 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.SDS has literally no control on the market prices. Thats all player controlled.
They do have some control. At a minimum they will not allow bids and prices that are too out of range. SDS does not want to see the market ruin the game. There are rules. They also have control over stub value by setting the cost of stubs, having stub sales, and controlling stub rewards. This causes the volume of stubs available in the market to change and thus affects prices enormously. Although they keep it the same, SDS controls sales tax rate. They control which cards can be sold and which cannot be. They control the quick sale price. They are in complete control of card supply as they are the only ones who create the cards and determine how they are attained. There are many ways that SDS can control, or at least affect, the card market. There is also potential for market manipulation, but I am not going to accuse them of anything shady.
The key word in there is they can affect the market, the players set it. They set minimum and maximum values for rarities to avoid stub transfers and things like that. The market is still completely set by the players and what they do with their stubs/money.
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@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Yes really, it has everything to do with rarity. It’s called supply vs demand. It’s simple market economics.
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It can drop in an instant if they do a ducks in a pond drop sale on a weekend. Hopefully they do on some of those rarer cards to drop the prices.
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@Tankdriver499 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
It can drop in an instant if they do a ducks in a pond drop sale on a weekend. Hopefully they do on some of those rarer cards to drop the prices.
They're not going to put br rewards, event rewards, or ws rewards in packs, so don't hold your breath on that one. If you want those cards, it's simple; save up your stubs, and buy them.
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Sale has been nasty. Im on AS level but like him a lot.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Yes really, it has everything to do with rarity. It’s called supply vs demand. It’s simple market economics.
He's right that there also has to be some demand. Otherwise all 12-0 br rewards would be going for Wagner's price.
Heck, in your own example you acknowledge a card's rarity as the supply in supply-and-demand, but then you completely overlook the demand aspect. You and I both know that br cards will always be higher because of it's rarity, but to sustain an elite price there also has to be demand.
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@dcmo3 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Yes really, it has everything to do with rarity. It’s called supply vs demand. It’s simple market economics.
He's right that there also has to be some demand. Otherwise all 12-0 br rewards would be going for Wagner's price.
Heck, in your own example you acknowledge a card's rarity as the supply in supply-and-demand, but then you completely overlook the demand aspect. You and I both know that br cards will always be higher because of it's rarity, but to sustain an elite price there also has to be demand.
That Gary Carter card has been that price since it was introduced. I’m guessing there might be 10 or so of those cards available being that he is not in my opinion as in demand as the say Wagner card that everyone who go’s flawless gets. And his price I believe is set by SDS at 500k. Might be wrong but his price has not fluctuated at all. And that’s a direct reflection of rarity.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@dcmo3 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Yes really, it has everything to do with rarity. It’s called supply vs demand. It’s simple market economics.
He's right that there also has to be some demand. Otherwise all 12-0 br rewards would be going for Wagner's price.
Heck, in your own example you acknowledge a card's rarity as the supply in supply-and-demand, but then you completely overlook the demand aspect. You and I both know that br cards will always be higher because of it's rarity, but to sustain an elite price there also has to be demand.
That Gary Carter card has been that price since it was introduced. I’m guessing there might be 10 or so of those cards available being that he is not in my opinion as in demand as the say Wagner card that everyone who go’s flawless gets. And his price I believe is set by SDS at 500k. Might be wrong but his price has not fluctuated at all. And that’s a direct reflection of rarity.
It's not 500, but a mil. I have Carter, and that 700 you see listed is mine. I have no intention of selling him, but when I saw a stub transfer go through earlier this year, it kind of peeved me. I set him at 700 to keep any higher prices down, but high enough I won't accidently sell him. There are plenty of earlier flawless rewards that are going from 150 -200. The demand is what keeps them from going to Wagner's price.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all about rarity fetching a much higher price, just that demand does play a role in their premium price.
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@jsyates3000 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Supply & demand. BR cards cost more because there are less of them in circulation.
Gotcha. Didn't think of that.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@dcmo3 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Yes really, it has everything to do with rarity. It’s called supply vs demand. It’s simple market economics.
He's right that there also has to be some demand. Otherwise all 12-0 br rewards would be going for Wagner's price.
Heck, in your own example you acknowledge a card's rarity as the supply in supply-and-demand, but then you completely overlook the demand aspect. You and I both know that br cards will always be higher because of it's rarity, but to sustain an elite price there also has to be demand.
That Gary Carter card has been that price since it was introduced. I’m guessing there might be 10 or so of those cards available being that he is not in my opinion as in demand as the say Wagner card that everyone who go’s flawless gets. And his price I believe is set by SDS at 500k. Might be wrong but his price has not fluctuated at all. And that’s a direct reflection of rarity.
You have it backwards a bit. Yes Carter is likely more rare than Wagner I agree. So why does he cost less than Wagner if rarity is all that matters? Demand matters too, and that is why Wagner costs more. Everyone wants Wagner and few people want Carter for that price.
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@dcmo3 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Tankdriver499 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
It can drop in an instant if they do a ducks in a pond drop sale on a weekend. Hopefully they do on some of those rarer cards to drop the prices.
They're not going to put br rewards, event rewards, or ws rewards in packs, so don't hold your breath on that one. If you want those cards, it's simple; save up your stubs, and buy them.
Really? This is my first year playing....was hoping some of those rare ones would eventually make the market at the end of the year. Not because I would play them, but because I like collecting each set. There goes my objective of collecting every awards card.
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@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Dwight Evans has had a much worse card priced higher than his FOTF basically all year. 4x higher at some times. It doesn’t happen often but it happens.
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@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@dcmo3 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@Vipersneak said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@TheGoaler said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
@ZOMBIEKILLS_128 said in Chris sale worth 250k?:
Anybody think he is worth that much? I have 500k with a very good team and not much to buy so wondering if he is worth it.
Some cards are comically overpriced. I never ever reached 300K stubs, and if I did I might feel differently, but how does a card be allowed to get to let's say, 600K and up? The Gary Carter price is a joke, unless he's the best Catcher in the game, which is unlikely.
Donaldson may still be jacked up higher than a Quadruple espresso, and SDS allows this ish.It has nothing to do with how good the actual player is, it has to do with the rarity of that card. With Gary Carter there might 50 of that card out there because he’s a flawless reward. Same goes for Feller and Wagner and all of the flawless rewards.
Really? So if no one wanted Wagner his price on the market would still be high simply because there are only a few of them? There is a demand side too.
Yes really, it has everything to do with rarity. It’s called supply vs demand. It’s simple market economics.
He's right that there also has to be some demand. Otherwise all 12-0 br rewards would be going for Wagner's price.
Heck, in your own example you acknowledge a card's rarity as the supply in supply-and-demand, but then you completely overlook the demand aspect. You and I both know that br cards will always be higher because of it's rarity, but to sustain an elite price there also has to be demand.
That Gary Carter card has been that price since it was introduced. I’m guessing there might be 10 or so of those cards available being that he is not in my opinion as in demand as the say Wagner card that everyone who go’s flawless gets. And his price I believe is set by SDS at 500k. Might be wrong but his price has not fluctuated at all. And that’s a direct reflection of rarity.
You have it backwards a bit. Yes Carter is likely more rare than Wagner I agree. So why does he cost less than Wagner if rarity is all that matters? Demand matters too, and that is why Wagner costs more. Everyone wants Wagner and few people want Carter for that price.
I’m not arguing your point, I agree. I was unaware of the cost of Carter or any of the flawless reward card. I was merely pointing out that those cards are the price they are do to availability. If those cards were available in say a DOTP, Headliner, BB pack then we would be talking about prices in the 200k’s or lower as those cards are much more prevalent then the aforementioned cards we have been talking about.
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Sale was good for the first few innings but hitters pick up on him quick, the two seam isn’t very good so that turns him into a 3 pitch starter. I sold him after a couple weeks, I think your better off with a guy like Scherzer.
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