Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer
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SefarRreplied to Maverick31762 on Dec 28, 2019, 5:55 PM last edited by SefarR_PSN Dec 28, 2019, 5:56 PM
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
What does batting .267 have to do with shutting someone down the opposition when I have a lead. Maybe if you didn’t discredit people who you think you are better than you might learn something
A batting avg. is a good indicator of how good someone is at the game. Not coincidentally, Pitching Rebel has the highest.
Batting average is a good indicator of someone’s ability to hit in this game.
But it’s whatever, keep complaining about comeback logic and don’t listen to a dude who is in close games and doesn’t have that problem. Have fun.
Keep this in mind. I am not a ultra superior player and my hitting is so-so. Therefore i am constantly in close games. I might no a thing or two about how to survive close games. Maybe more so then dudes who blow people out on the regular.
I dont talk about comeback logic. I talk about the grotesque amount of RNG this year as opposed to MLB 15 and 16. I'm not alone with this opinion.
Oh, ok sure. Believe what you want I guess. But if I am batting .267 and I am assuming you are batting significantly higher, why aren’t our averages the same if it’s just random? Why does Rebel win so much more than everyone else. If it’s random this should not happen.
Lol this is such a childish black and white argument. We've gone over this a million times. Rebel doesn't win nearly as often as he should. That's an objective fact and if you but watched him play over an extended period of time you'd see this.
Suffice to say that the people whose opinion I value agree with me, not you. What you believe is ultimately unimportant to me.
Who determines how often he should win? Also is it that people whose opinions you value agree with you or is it that you value their opinion because they agree. It’s called group think.
But whatever. Have fun. I guess it’s all RNG but you know this already so why even talk about it if you have figured it all out?
What determines it?
You do know there is an objective hit analysis built into the game right? The player that is significantly outplaying his opponent should always win. I cannot make this any simpler.
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ok cool man. Luck never happens in sports you got it figured out.
Also you can’t compare what happens in MLB to ranked. UNLESS you can show me a game that is filled with HOF in their prime. But what do i know. I am not smart enough to agree or have a batting average high enough to be worthy. Thank you for even gracing me and the forum with your presence....I guess
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
ok cool man. Luck never happens in sports you got it figured out.
Also you can’t compare what happens in MLB to ranked. UNLESS you can show me a game that is filled with HOF in their prime. But what do i know. I am not smart enough to agree or have a batting average high enough to be worthy. Thank you for even gracing me and the forum with your presence....I guess
Yes... luck doesn't decide sporting outcomes very frequently at all - and even if it does so, it is between sides that perform at the same level... Not where one side is crushing the other.
The show has HoF hitters and HoF pitchers, what's your point? If it was only live series teams thered be less luck involved? Smh.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
What determines it?
You do know there is an objective hit analysis built into the game right? The player that is significantly outplaying his opponent should always win. I cannot make this any simpler.
Player input and card ratings should set the range of possibilities.
An objective hit analysis would not necessarily account for clutch or RISP or even power. But it’s ok. I am not smart enough for your simple explanation. I will just accept that you know it all. See that is how group thinks work. This an me repeating what you said a without understanding how meaningless or at best flawed it is
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
What determines it?
You do know there is an objective hit analysis built into the game right? The player that is significantly outplaying his opponent should always win. I cannot make this any simpler.
Player input and card ratings should set the range of possibilities.
An objective hit analysis would not necessarily account for clutch or RISP or even power. But it’s ok. I am not smart enough for your simple explanation. I will just accept that you know it all. See that is how group thinks work. This an me repeating what you said a without understanding how meaningless or at best flawed it is
No, this is a fundamental disagreement we have.
Player ratings should only determine how difficult it is to get perfect input and what is the exit velocity after a perfect input. That's it. A perfectly squared ball should be hit at the optimal launch angle for that specific player. If this makes power hitters more usable than contact hitters, so be it. But you achieve balance with giving contact hitters bigger PCIs.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
ok cool man. Luck never happens in sports you got it figured out.
Also you can’t compare what happens in MLB to ranked. UNLESS you can show me a game that is filled with HOF in their prime. But what do i know. I am not smart enough to agree or have a batting average high enough to be worthy. Thank you for even gracing me and the forum with your presence....I guess
Yes... luck doesn't decide sporting outcomes very frequently at all - and even if it does so, it is between sides that perform at the same level... Not where one side is crushing the other.
The show has HoF hitters and HoF pitchers, what's your point? If it was only live series teams thered be less luck involved? Smh.
Bill Buckner, Chanel Sonnen, Dennis Exkersley, the Russian Hockey team, the 96 Rockets, Jessica Andrade, 2001 Diamondbacks might view luck a bit different. But it’s cool...no luck in sports. Not even sure why people say “Good luck” before a game
How can one side be crushing if they aren’t winning. Don’t tell me my small .267 mind may not be able to comprehend your genius
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
What determines it?
You do know there is an objective hit analysis built into the game right? The player that is significantly outplaying his opponent should always win. I cannot make this any simpler.
Player input and card ratings should set the range of possibilities.
An objective hit analysis would not necessarily account for clutch or RISP or even power. But it’s ok. I am not smart enough for your simple explanation. I will just accept that you know it all. See that is how group thinks work. This an me repeating what you said a without understanding how meaningless or at best flawed it is
No, this is a fundamental disagreement we have.
Player ratings should only determine how difficult it is to get perfect input and what is the exit velocity after a perfect input. That's it. A perfectly squared ball should be hit at the optimal launch angle for that specific player. If this makes power hitters more usable than contact hitters, so be it. But you achieve balance with giving contact hitters bigger PCIs.
So to be clear are you looking for a baseball sim game or something else?
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You're saying Sonnen got unlucky because he got caught in a triangle? No, he tried to lay and pray after he gassed in the fifth and got caught... That wasn't luck.
I dont know who Jessica Andrade is but the miracle on ice? Yeah the team that performed better that day won... You think that was luck?
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
What determines it?
You do know there is an objective hit analysis built into the game right? The player that is significantly outplaying his opponent should always win. I cannot make this any simpler.
Player input and card ratings should set the range of possibilities.
An objective hit analysis would not necessarily account for clutch or RISP or even power. But it’s ok. I am not smart enough for your simple explanation. I will just accept that you know it all. See that is how group thinks work. This an me repeating what you said a without understanding how meaningless or at best flawed it is
No, this is a fundamental disagreement we have.
Player ratings should only determine how difficult it is to get perfect input and what is the exit velocity after a perfect input. That's it. A perfectly squared ball should be hit at the optimal launch angle for that specific player. If this makes power hitters more usable than contact hitters, so be it. But you achieve balance with giving contact hitters bigger PCIs.
So to be clear are you looking for a baseball sim game or something else?
I'm looking for a competitive baseball game where input rules, not luck.
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Yes, very unlucky. Unless you think it was Silva tremendous set up.
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
Yes, very unlucky. Unless you think it was Silva tremendous set up.
No dude he made a mistake, got caught and lost. I dont think Chael himself would call it getting unlucky lol.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:?
I'm looking for a competitive baseball game where input rules, not luck.
Ok we are just looking for different things. I don’t want Gallo playing like Ted Williams. I like a baseball sim balancing user input with card stats
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:?
I'm looking for a competitive baseball game where input rules, not luck.
Ok we are just looking for different things. I don’t want Gallo playing like Ted Williams. I like a baseball sim balancing user input with card stats
Imagine how broken that ideal is though. You dont want Gallo to ever hit better than Williams, regardless of who is using that card... You dont seem to understand how much better Rebel is over your average player. If you dont want Rebels Gallo to hit better than the average players Williams, then what you get is a meaningless CPU simulation where we watch the CPU play itself.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
Yes, very unlucky. Unless you think it was Silva tremendous set up.
No dude he made a mistake, got caught and lost. I dont think Chael himself would call it getting unlucky lol.
Ok... difference of opinion I guess. I think Anderson was very lucky to capitalize on a hawks brain fart. But I can tell you like the concept that you are in control and everything you have is solely a function of you. But the larger point is by any stat a chael was winning and based off of what you said he earned victory
I am not going to waste the time arguing or insulting you. It wouldn’t matter because you only listen to opinions you value aka agree with you. Plus I think some of this revolves around preference. I think I would hate your ideal game and I know U would hate my ideal game.
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MMA and boxing are sports where a single mistake can cost everything - that is very rarely the case with MLB unless you have something like two perfect games going into the 9th.
What it wasn't, is luck
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
Imagine how broken that ideal is though. You dont want Gallo to ever hit better than Williams, regardless of who is using that card... You dont seem to understand how much better Rebel is over your average player. If you dont want Rebels Gallo to hit better than the average players Williams, then what you get is a meaningless CPU simulation where we watch the CPU play itself.
The problem is that if Rebels Gallo can hit like Williams why the hell should anyone bother getting Williams. Also hitting in real life is not easy. There are aspects the game can’t aim properly because it’s a video game. If Rebels Gallo hits homers every AB it undermines the sim aspect of the game.
If that’s the case play with a bunch of nameless players and no stats. Let everyone be Williams.
But once agin that is preference
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@Vipersneak said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
Sorry to burst your arrogance bubble.
The guy made a very objective and balanced post and this is your reply?
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@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
Imagine how broken that ideal is though. You dont want Gallo to ever hit better than Williams, regardless of who is using that card... You dont seem to understand how much better Rebel is over your average player. If you dont want Rebels Gallo to hit better than the average players Williams, then what you get is a meaningless CPU simulation where we watch the CPU play itself.
The problem is that if Rebels Gallo can hit like Williams why the hell should anyone bother getting Williams. Also hitting in real life is not easy. There are aspects the game can’t aim properly because it’s a video game. If Rebels Gallo hits homers every AB it undermines the sim aspect of the game.
If that’s the case play with a bunch of nameless players and no stats. Let everyone be Williams.
But once agin that is preference
There would be a point, go look at Rebels and CB5s lineups in 15 and 16. They had all the best cards. Why? Because in their hands they were even more effective.
Rebels Gallo might outperform my Williams but his Williams would do even better. That's how it should work.
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@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
MMA and boxing are sports where a single mistake can cost everything - that is very rarely the case with MLB unless you have something like two perfect games going into the 9th.
What it wasn't, is luck
eckersley slider to Gibson cost everythingEspecially in striking there is an aspect of luck. Zig instead of zag is luck. Yes your opponent can set you up to sit instead of sat but sometimes it is a flip of the coin. I have definitely in my life rocked someone because of a good guess
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SefarRreplied to Maverick31762 on Dec 28, 2019, 6:36 PM last edited by SefarR_PSN Dec 28, 2019, 7:21 PM
@Maverick31762 said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
@SefarR said in Hate to say it but it feels like 50-50 games are decided by the computer:
MMA and boxing are sports where a single mistake can cost everything - that is very rarely the case with MLB unless you have something like two perfect games going into the 9th.
What it wasn't, is luck
eckersley slider to Gibson cost everything
Especially in striking there is an aspect of luck. Zig instead of zag is luck. Yes your opponent can set you up to sit instead of sat but sometimes it is a flip of the coin. I have definitely in my life rocked someone because of a good guess
Yes, Eckersley hung his slider and it got blasted. How did they get there though? You had two teams performing very evenly up to that point.
I also wouldn't call a puncher's chance simple luck. You're either hitting someone where they are or where you think they will be. Unless you're straight up punching with your eyes closed I suppose.
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