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    carey_56
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 7:56 PM last edited by
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    His sinker’s not that good, his off-speed isn’t very effective, he doesn’t have a good strikeout pitch, and worst of all, he has terrible command. Can’t dot a fastball when it matters most and hangs way too many well-released changeups. Guess I’ll be selling. Big disappointment for me.

    It’s really sad that glitchy deliveries/upper-nineties fastballs (preferably cutters and sinkers) are the only ways a pitcher can be successful in this game. Maddux was incredible in real life but doesn’t translate well because his motion is easy to pick up and he doesn’t throw hard.

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    jjsmith605
    replied to Guest on Aug 5, 2020, 8:00 PM last edited by jjsmith605_PSN Aug 5, 2020, 8:00 PM
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    @carey_56 said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    His sinker’s not that good, his off-speed isn’t very effective, he doesn’t have a good strikeout pitch, and worst of all, he has terrible command. Can’t dot a fastball when it matters most and hangs way too many well-released changeups. Guess I’ll be selling. Big disappointment for me.

    It’s really sad that glitchy deliveries/upper-nineties fastballs (preferably cutters and sinkers) are the only ways a pitcher can be successful in this game. Maddux was incredible in real life but doesn’t translate well because his motion is easy to pick up and he doesn’t throw hard.

    I've heard the opposite 99% of the time about his command... but yeah when I face him I am not nearly as intimidated as I would be against someone who throws harder.. If the pitcher doesn't have a 94+ sinker then they are hard to be successful with/easy to hit off of.. annoying part of the game

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    raesONE
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:04 PM last edited by raesONE_PSN Aug 5, 2020, 8:04 PM
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    Velocity still rules the show. Movement is nice and has become more valuable this year, but if it's just movement without velocity, your pitcher will be BP after a few innings.

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    dbarmonstar
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:08 PM last edited by
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    That is what happens when the game becomes about hitting. Pitching gets worst every year. It started in the show 18

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    eatyum
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    @dbarmonstar said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    That is what happens when the game becomes about hitting. Pitching gets worst every year. It started in the show 18

    I'd argue pitching is a tiny bit better because in 18 there were little strikeouts, where on HoF there are a good amount this year.

    But yeah in general, it's not great.

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    saintsfan_1029
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:23 PM last edited by
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    I also found Maddox to have awful control, which was weird.
    If he actually had elite control, he would be effective.

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    dbarmonstar
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    @eatyum said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    @dbarmonstar said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    That is what happens when the game becomes about hitting. Pitching gets worst every year. It started in the show 18

    I'd argue pitching is a tiny bit better because in 18 there were little strikeouts, where on HoF there are a good amount this year.

    But yeah in general, it's not great.

    Going from 17 to 18 was bad, then got worst with 19 and not looking forward to how bad it will be in 21.

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    lazy_toast
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:26 PM last edited by lazy_toast_PSN Aug 5, 2020, 8:27 PM
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    only went against him twice and was nothing crazy. But the second user knew how to use his pitches and had me flailing like a drunk octopus. Pitchers who dont throw 97-105 mph really dont scare me

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    AGENTSxOFxCHAOS
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:28 PM last edited by
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    All Star or HOF difficulty

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    JediOfArgonath
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:33 PM last edited by
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    I’m 5-0 with him with a 1.2 ERA but that’s just me & I was great with his 88 overall card also. I honestly think people just have to learn how to pitch with him. Paint the corners, Pitch to contact...It really works with him!

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    Matt_42187
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    @carey_56 said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    His sinker’s not that good, his off-speed isn’t very effective, he doesn’t have a good strikeout pitch, and worst of all, he has terrible command. Can’t dot a fastball when it matters most and hangs way too many well-released changeups. Guess I’ll be selling. Big disappointment for me.

    It’s really sad that glitchy deliveries/upper-nineties fastballs (preferably cutters and sinkers) are the only ways a pitcher can be successful in this game. Maddux was incredible in real life but doesn’t translate well because his motion is easy to pick up and he doesn’t throw hard.

    It’s because the PCI is too big and nobody who plays this game can make people guess wrong like he did.

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    Therealest_JB
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:36 PM last edited by
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    Awful in the wrong hands maybe 🥱

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    mastermut4life
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:42 PM last edited by
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    @Steelerof3Rivers said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    I’m 5-0 with him with a 1.2 ERA but that’s just me & I was great with his 88 overall card also. I honestly think people just have to learn how to pitch with him. Paint the corners, Pitch to contact...It really works with him!

    I was 8-1 with a .86 ERA and 114 SO with Maddux 88 so I would assume I would do even better with his 99. Also picked up 98 Orel and 97 May to try and find someone to go with 97 Wood 97 Leiter 98 Hal and 94 Hendrick.

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    Jholla31
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:43 PM last edited by
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    Y'all must be playing under HOF difficulty. I've pitched a 1 run CG (HOF) and a 7 inning 2 run game (Legend) with Maddux in the two games I've used him. His control is amazing (analog), his movement is disgusting, and you'll freeze people consistently if you pitch properly with him instead of trying to spam an 89 mph sinker up in the zone.

    10/10 would definitely recommend Maddux to anybody that consistently plays above AS.

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    Mickdrenalen
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 8:45 PM last edited by
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    I agree I tried him for 2 games. He’s nothing special

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    mastermut4life
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    @Jholla31 said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    Y'all must be playing under HOF difficulty. I've pitched a 1 run CG (HOF) and a 7 inning 2 run game (Legend) with Maddux in the two games I've used him. His control is amazing (analog), his movement is disgusting, and you'll freeze people consistently if you pitch properly with him instead of trying to spam an 89 mph sinker up in the zone.

    10/10 would definitely recommend Maddux to anybody that consistently plays above AS.

    Cant wait to try him, Orel and May out in RS tonight.

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    Jeviduty
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    @mastermut4life said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    @Jholla31 said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    Y'all must be playing under HOF difficulty. I've pitched a 1 run CG (HOF) and a 7 inning 2 run game (Legend) with Maddux in the two games I've used him. His control is amazing (analog), his movement is disgusting, and you'll freeze people consistently if you pitch properly with him instead of trying to spam an 89 mph sinker up in the zone.

    10/10 would definitely recommend Maddux to anybody that consistently plays above AS.

    Cant wait to try him, Orel and May out in RS tonight.

    Hated May, & I gave that guy dozens and dozens of innings of a try on HOF/Legend. Good luck.

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    mastermut4life
    replied to Guest on Aug 5, 2020, 8:54 PM last edited by mastermut4life Aug 5, 2020, 8:56 PM
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    @Jeviduty said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    @mastermut4life said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    @Jholla31 said in Greg Maddux is awful:

    Y'all must be playing under HOF difficulty. I've pitched a 1 run CG (HOF) and a 7 inning 2 run game (Legend) with Maddux in the two games I've used him. His control is amazing (analog), his movement is disgusting, and you'll freeze people consistently if you pitch properly with him instead of trying to spam an 89 mph sinker up in the zone.

    10/10 would definitely recommend Maddux to anybody that consistently plays above AS.

    Cant wait to try him, Orel and May out in RS tonight.

    Hated May, & I gave that guy dozens and dozens of innings of a try on HOF/Legend. Good luck.

    Oh thats disappointing to hear, but I guess not surprising. I've heard 99 Smoltz is just as bad. Maybe its time to go back to 99 Kluber.

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    CubsFan708
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 9:03 PM last edited by CubsFan708_PSN Aug 5, 2020, 9:04 PM
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    What are you guys talking about? Maddux is filthy. He throws as hard as Kluber and has more control. I have prestige Maddux and he touches 96-97 on his fastball. And then you drop the off speed. I think he has such a good mix of speeds. You have to use pitchers like leiter Maddux Orel in reverse. Instead using fastball to setup off speed, you use off speed to setup fastball. At least that’s how I have success with crafty pitchers.

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    PhillyRunt44
    wrote on Aug 5, 2020, 9:07 PM last edited by
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    Maddux has been elite for me. I love him. Gonna be my ace rest of year working on prestiging him....

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