From what I've read
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I've seen multiple posts about people realizing, early in a RS game, that the AI is going to spin everything against them and they just quit.
I posted a similar statement about 2 weeks after the game came out. Nothing worse than to waste 9 innings and, sometimes, 29 innings for the AI to finally decide the outcome. Just stringing you along and throwing ridiculous animation in your path for way too many innings. Just quit.
Apparently, that's not an uncommon philosophy. Records mean nothing to me in a game that we all know is Random and AI decided. If there were any significant, I repeat any, weight put on a player's skill and absolutely no, I repeat no, AI interference I would not feel the same way.
I would play every game to the very last swing. But why? When you know the AI is going to drag you through a lot of wasted time and really upset you with it's ignorance...WHY?
My record, if anyone wants to check, is terrible. But, I'll admit, at least 2/3 of the losses were early quits. We all know those "W's" can be as satisfying as the infuriating losses. Both outcomes controlled by the AI, not us.
I don't believe I'm terrible. I'm probably about the same level as anyone else out here that has triple-digit hours under their belt. The real problem is this game will never let us know how good or bad we are. We are as good/bad as the AI decides in that particular game.
I dunno, something about the game, though, just keeps me coming back. And, SDS, understands the psychology to make it so. Guess at the end of the day..they win. Ha.
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@janoosh said in From what I've read:
Well that was depressing.
Please don't get too deep into that hole.. depression. My posts are all about positive vibes. Do apologize if this one had a different affect.
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@dcordash1 said in From what I've read:
@janoosh said in From what I've read:
Well that was depressing.
Please don't get too deep into that hole.. depression. My posts are all about positive vibes. Do apologize if this one had a different affect.
Sure bud. I just accept that AI has to be created with probability based outcomes based on attributes. Sometimes you’re gonna get the bad end of a 18% probability. It’s a game.
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I agree. Last night I quit in the 4th inning because I had six swings with good/good or good/squared that went for lineout or flyouts. One of then was a 79mph rocket to RF with Chipper. But my opponent was dinking and dunking balls on late/okay and scored like 3 runs. I just gave up, because I wasn't gonna go another 6 innings through that BS.
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Just kills me that the top players get the dice rolls to go their way year after year. Boy it makes me so mad I dunno what to do with myself! Jesus
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@janoosh said in From what I've read:
Sure bud. I just accept that AI has to be created with probability based outcomes based on attributes. Sometimes you’re gonna get the bad end of a 18% probability. It’s a game.
18%, do you know something the rest of us don't? Most folks on these forums that throw out generic percentages it's, like, always 90% or 10%.
Just asking. I would accept 18% of the games being decided by the AI. But, I think it's more like 70-80%. But, your 18% seems like a number coming from someone on the inside?
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@Ch-76-1908 said in From what I've read:
Just kills me that the top players get the dice rolls to go their way year after year. Boy it makes me so mad I dunno what to do with myself! Jesus
What constitutes a "top-player" in a game of AI trickery? Are "top-players" immune from throwing perfect pitches on the corner and the animation showing them square in the middle of the plate? Are your "top-players" immune from random errors. Are your top-players void of animation glitches. Are they the ones that have PCI controller feedback that is always accurate?
Oh, they overcome all this by having super-human reflexes and always having perfect bat placement? Nah..bat placement is also decided by AI.
Tell me what constitutes a "top-player". And then put one of those top-players against the worst player on RS when the AI decides it's time the "bottom-player" wins to keep them focused on playing the game.
And, if there ever was a time a "top-player" would lose to a "bottom-player" that negates any authenticity this game has. Not that that did not happen years ago.
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No below average player will beat a top 50 player in this game. I'd give them 100 tries even. But you just keep blaming the game instead of having fun and trying to get better. That's the way ya do it!
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I'm below average and i'll beat a top 10 player set it up name the price.
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@Ch-76-1908 said in From what I've read:
No below average player will beat a top 50 player in this game
Wrong...I have no way of proving as you have no way of proving. But, it's not about the skill, it's about the script.
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The difference between guys that get the top 50 banner every month and the guys that make World Series every month is definitely user input. Those top 50 guys have far more perfect/perfect, where WS guys will square up a lot just outside of "perfect."
With two evenly skilled players that keep squaring it up instead of hitting perfects, RNG becomes a major factor and can determine the outcome regardless of the equal skill level.
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@Jholla31 said in From what I've read:
The difference between guys that get the top 50 banner every month and the guys that make World Series every month is definitely user input
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man.
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@dcordash1 said in From what I've read:
@janoosh said in From what I've read:
Sure bud. I just accept that AI has to be created with probability based outcomes based on attributes. Sometimes you’re gonna get the bad end of a 18% probability. It’s a game.
18%, do you know something the rest of us don't? Most folks on these forums that throw out generic percentages it's, like, always 90% or 10%.
Just asking. I would accept 18% of the games being decided by the AI. But, I think it's more like 70-80%. But, your 18% seems like a number coming from someone on the inside?
Just call me Chuck.
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@Ch-76-1908 said in From what I've read:
No below average player will beat a top 50 player in this game. I'd give them 100 tries even. But you just keep blaming the game instead of having fun and trying to get better. That's the way ya do it!
Happens all the time in BR to be fair
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@Jeviduty said in From what I've read:
Happens all the time in BR to be fair
And events. I beat a top 50 player a week or two ago and I had absolutely no business being in that game. I probably lose the next 99 times lol
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@dcordash1 said in From what I've read:
@Jholla31 said in From what I've read:
The difference between guys that get the top 50 banner every month and the guys that make World Series every month is definitely user input
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man.
I’m really trying to refrain being insulting... but please explain how the “top” players are on top of the leaderboard every year?? The same names are up there. Did the game magically chose them to sit there every year?
If you think so, put on your tinfoil helmet
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I don't think it is scripted as far as who wins vs who loses but rather gives one side the advantage or breaks. In my opinion, the top players are just good enough to overcome it. For us mid/upper level guys, it makes games we should win handily close and often causes us losses that we shouldn't have. The elite guys it might make them win by a couple rather than mercy.
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@Jeviduty said in From what I've read:
@Ch-76-1908 said in From what I've read:
No below average player will beat a top 50 player in this game. I'd give them 100 tries even. But you just keep blaming the game instead of having fun and trying to get better. That's the way ya do it!
Happens all the time in BR to be fair
I'm talking RS. Not BR or events.
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@dcordash1 said in From what I've read:
@Ch-76-1908 said in From what I've read:
No below average player will beat a top 50 player in this game
Wrong...I have no way of proving as you have no way of proving. But, it's not about the skill, it's about the script.
In a nine inning game, no and I repeat NO top player is losing to an average player. Your post comes off as whiny and searching for an excuse. The top players are winning at a 85-90% clip against really really good players man. Sometimes it feels like the cards are stacked against you and it is frustrating no doubt, but over a large sample size your record is an accurate representation of your skill level. Sorry man
