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  • DrewshBag420_PSND Offline
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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    I game 7 of the 2016 World Series the Cubs used Lester as a reliever...I can throw out random points that mean nothing

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    @DrewshBag420 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    I game 7 of the 2016 World Series the Cubs used Lester as a reliever...I can throw out random points that mean nothing

    A brief history of baseball and pitcher management means nothing to you? Darn, it looks like you bought the wrong game! Happens to the best of us, don't be upset, The Show, and Shadow of Mordor are right next to each other when you do a search in the PS store.

    Don't hang your head, ask lots of questions, people here are very helpful as long as you are polite.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @DrewshBag420 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    I game 7 of the 2016 World Series the Cubs used Lester as a reliever...I can throw out random points that mean nothing

    A brief history of baseball and pitcher management means nothing to you? Darn, it looks like you bought the wrong game! Happens to the best of us, don't be upset, The Show, and Shadow of Mordor are right next to each other when you do a search in the PS store.

    Don't hang your head, ask lots of questions, people here are very helpful as long as you are polite.

    Bringing up what happens in one off playoff games means nothing.

    You really are not smart at all. Like you try to talk like you are smart but I wouldn't be surprised if you never graduated from high school. Oh and you know nothing about baseball

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @DrewshBag420 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    I game 7 of the 2016 World Series the Cubs used Lester as a reliever...I can throw out random points that mean nothing

    A brief history of baseball and pitcher management means nothing to you? Darn, it looks like you bought the wrong game! Happens to the best of us, don't be upset, The Show, and Shadow of Mordor are right next to each other when you do a search in the PS store.

    Don't hang your head, ask lots of questions, people here are very helpful as long as you are polite.

    So delete your account, child. The adults are trying to talk

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Outstanding effort on google my friend. Two thumbs up

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    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Outstanding effort on google my friend. Two thumbs up

    Actually, I'm a historian by trade, and Walter Johnson is my great great grandfather, not to give too much information away. I take a special interest in the '24 series due to the family and all. And no, I'm not good at actually playing baseball.

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    @genopolanco said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    All they have to do is lower starter stamina a tad and give relievers full stamina when fully rested. Not sure why this wasn’t done like day 1.

    Alternatively, a good idea would be to not allow SP in relief but make the LRP slot available to SP and RP.

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    I use Morton out of the pen. Pitch him 1 or 2, then turn to a better handedness per the batting order of my opponent.

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    @janoosh said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @genopolanco said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    All they have to do is lower starter stamina a tad and give relievers full stamina when fully rested. Not sure why this wasn’t done like day 1.

    Alternatively, a good idea would be to not allow SP in relief but make the LRP slot available to SP and RP.

    Very cool idea.

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    5th starter is my best lefty out of the pen Lodolo.

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    I have Brendan McKay as my fifth starter, even though I have better options. Typically, I only use him for games my starter gets destroyed in early and extra inning games because he can hit and I won’t need a PH

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    For me it truly depends how the games unfold. If you play 4 complete games where your starters go 7+ innings then you do need that 5th starter. If you have a couple games where the guy quits early then you don’t. Just depends on the games.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Billy Heywood over here

    I'm kidding. Baseball knowledge is cool.

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    I personally LOVE the creativity that choosing SPs and being able to use SPs in relief brings. If ranked seasons is going to have an ELO system AND Skill Based Matchmaking AND RNG AND DDA, you bet your a** I am going to use everything in my power to win and that's how it should be. Every single game is do or die, but also when a Starter throws 90+ pitches, it should take them 3.5+ games to be able to reach max energy. And hte energy should slowly build back, not in large chunks. The first two days after pitching, the pitcher should gain ZERO energy back because realistically your arm is not recovered at all yet, it is repairing all the damage.

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    I use my 5th starter as an extra bullpen arm.

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