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    I almost NEVER use Prior to start. Only is starter is having a rough time, and I bring him in. Especially when I have Hal who's stamina is INSANE. Would it be smart to start a reliever, warm up a righty and a lefty starter, and, based on the other team's lineup, put one in?

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    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Now that I'm thinking about it, Kopech would be great for that. I used him as a starter a few times, and he was INSANE. I have been using Hal for a few innings, then my 5th to eat up innings till the 9th.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

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    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

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    I have Mantle and every inning boss so far. Along with all of the team affinity 1 and 2. So alot of games I will put two starts in the 4/5 spot and get 3 innings out of each. The 5th spot is usually used for my long reliever

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    should go back to randomizing the starting pitcher ❤

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    @ayman718 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    should go back to randomizing the starting pitcher ❤

    Maybe. The problem is that last year, I kept getting my 5th starter. That was awful.

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    @ayman718 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    should go back to randomizing the starting pitcher ❤

    Absolutely not, this is the best addition to the game in years. Imagine working to get to 300 stars, taking that awesome new pitcher, then waiting 40 games to get to actually use him.

    Content creators would riot the second SDS discussed changing it back. Do you have any idea how hard it is to make a video featuring a new pitcher when you don't even get to decide who you use?

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    All they have to do is lower starter stamina a tad and give relievers full stamina when fully rested. Not sure why this wasn’t done like day 1.

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    @genopolanco said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    All they have to do is lower starter stamina a tad and give relievers full stamina when fully rested. Not sure why this wasn’t done like day 1.

    Also change the formula for stamina regeneration. Not only do guys like Hal and Kluber last too long, they get it back in like a game (partly due to not losing enough during their start, partly because regen is too high).

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

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    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

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    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

    The Bill James approach is, as I already stated, 3-3-3. So according to the guy that changed baseball, you should absolutely use three starters per game.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

    The Bill James approach is, as I already stated, 3-3-3. So according to the guy that changed baseball, you should absolutely use three starters per game.

    Yeah, and 9 DHs as well. Thanks for the woke Bill James point, us here in realville are only expressing our frustrations based on our knowledge of how the game is actually played, not on some dude’s abacus.

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    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

    The Bill James approach is, as I already stated, 3-3-3. So according to the guy that changed baseball, you should absolutely use three starters per game.

    Yeah, and 9 DHs as well. Thanks for the woke Bill James point, us here in realville are only expressing our frustrations based on our knowledge of how the game is actually played, not on some dude’s abacus.

    ah, the Red Sox said that for years, but then they won the WS. Of course, as a Braves fan, I understand your frustration (Go Cardinals, sorry not sorry)

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

    The Bill James approach is, as I already stated, 3-3-3. So according to the guy that changed baseball, you should absolutely use three starters per game.

    Yeah, and 9 DHs as well. Thanks for the woke Bill James point, us here in realville are only expressing our frustrations based on our knowledge of how the game is actually played, not on some dude’s abacus.

    ah, the Red Sox said that for years, but then they won the WS. Of course, as a Braves fan, I understand the frustration (Go Cardinals)

    Yeah, where is their manager now?

    And BTW, I’m from DC.

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    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

    The Bill James approach is, as I already stated, 3-3-3. So according to the guy that changed baseball, you should absolutely use three starters per game.

    Yeah, and 9 DHs as well. Thanks for the woke Bill James point, us here in realville are only expressing our frustrations based on our knowledge of how the game is actually played, not on some dude’s abacus.

    ah, the Red Sox said that for years, but then they won the WS. Of course, as a Braves fan, I understand the frustration (Go Cardinals)

    Yeah, where is their manager now?

    And BTW, I’m from DC.

    You think managers are the ones who make contract and draft decisions? Eh, I think you're out of your element on this one my man.

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    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @loshbomb said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @Therealest_JB said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    @lucas8181 said in What is the point of the 5th starter?:

    That is called using an opener, and I almost always do it. The 5th starter for me is usually a "closer". most of the year it's been Kopech.

    Nice strategy... smh

    Thanks? In the 1924 World Series (game 7), the Washington Senators used a RHP for 2 batters before bringing in a LHP. In the 1990 NLCS the Pirates used a "relief pitcher" to start the game. The 1993 Oakland A's rotation was so bad, Tony and Dave platooned guys all year in order to win as many as possible. Dave Fleming, a writer for Bill James, started talking about the advantage of using guys for 3 innings max in 2009, he called it the 3-3-3 rule. Baseball didn't recognize saves as a stat until 1969, and Baseball didn't use a 5 man rotation until the early 1980s.

    This isn't a new concept, the video game just finally caught up.

    Walter Johnson saves the 24 WS game 7 in extras - this happens every game in Ranked in early innings.

    While it wasn't a stat at the time, Marberry got the blown save and Johnson got the win. Baseball has always been about creativity and finding an advantage. No reason people should complain about it being in the video game too.

    We’re talking about a single game from 96 years ago. Doesn’t mean that people should be pitching 3-4 starters every RS game. This should be stopped.

    The Bill James approach is, as I already stated, 3-3-3. So according to the guy that changed baseball, you should absolutely use three starters per game.

    Yeah, and 9 DHs as well. Thanks for the woke Bill James point, us here in realville are only expressing our frustrations based on our knowledge of how the game is actually played, not on some dude’s abacus.

    ah, the Red Sox said that for years, but then they won the WS. Of course, as a Braves fan, I understand the frustration (Go Cardinals)

    Yeah, where is their manager now?

    And BTW, I’m from DC.

    You think managers are the ones who make contract and draft decisions? Eh, I think you're out of your element on this one my man.

    Someone had to be the fall guy for systematic team-wide cheating. It was the whole team putting up unrealistic numbers. Just like the astros. Bill James would approve.

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