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  • soreal35_PSNS Offline
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    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @soreal35 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure everyone is so in tune to the prestige stats that they are trying to prevent you from advancing a card. It’s an event game that’s 6 innings long and people are going to quit regardless when they start losing.

    With that said, I think they should let the play finish on your side when an opponents connection is lost.

    Idc if you want to quit, but at least let me have my homerun and my stats. People do this intentionally out of spite and it sucks that they hold this power.

    You’d be better off accruing the stats in RS...less quits mid game.

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  • T-Rox_09_PSNT Offline
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    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @soreal35 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure everyone is so in tune to the prestige stats that they are trying to prevent you from advancing a card. It’s an event game that’s 6 innings long and people are going to quit regardless when they start losing.

    With that said, I think they should let the play finish on your side when an opponents connection is lost.

    Idc if you want to quit, but at least let me have my homerun and my stats. People do this intentionally out of spite and it sucks that they hold this power.

    It's possibly their way of getting back at you for not accepting their friendly quit.

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  • raesONE_PSNR Offline
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    @soreal35 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @soreal35 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure everyone is so in tune to the prestige stats that they are trying to prevent you from advancing a card. It’s an event game that’s 6 innings long and people are going to quit regardless when they start losing.

    With that said, I think they should let the play finish on your side when an opponents connection is lost.

    Idc if you want to quit, but at least let me have my homerun and my stats. People do this intentionally out of spite and it sucks that they hold this power.

    You’d be better off accruing the stats in RS...less quits mid game.

    That's true, but the event is quicker to get a multitude of games in.

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  • raesONE_PSNR Offline
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    @T-Rox_09 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @soreal35 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure everyone is so in tune to the prestige stats that they are trying to prevent you from advancing a card. It’s an event game that’s 6 innings long and people are going to quit regardless when they start losing.

    With that said, I think they should let the play finish on your side when an opponents connection is lost.

    Idc if you want to quit, but at least let me have my homerun and my stats. People do this intentionally out of spite and it sucks that they hold this power.

    It's possibly their way of getting back at you for not accepting their friendly quit.

    Most don't even offer a friendly quit, because it's just the event. Nobody really cares.

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  • hoboadam_PSNH Offline
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    A good data mining sweep of the disconnect collection items would reveal the repeat offenders. SDS should look into it.

    It's annoying but whatever. I just move on. Thanks for the win.

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    I agree 100% with @raesONE. I prestiged Mantle. Which took much longer to do because of dashboarding. Since I unlocked him I’m batting like .230 with him with 0 HRs in like 20 at bats. Frustrating thing is I’ve actually hit three that the opponent dashboarded on. I’ve come to grips with the fact if I hit a HR with Mantle, my opponent will probably quit.

    I’m a few runs and hits away from prestiging Chipper, same thing with him. This morning I’ve had someone dashboard twice when he hit a HR.

    It’s frustrating.

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  • theu715_PSNT Offline
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    @hoboadam said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    A good data mining sweep of the disconnect collection items would reveal the repeat offenders. SDS should look into it.

    It's annoying but whatever. I just move on. Thanks for the win.

    Not true necessarily. I've got a ton of disconnect items because of offline grinding and needing specific stats with teams or players.

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  • wingspan1985_PSNW Offline
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    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I can't tell if you're joking or not, did SDS really advance the program for you? Big props to them if they did, as it sounds like that system was broken. I started in 18, which was, well...

    I haven't tried the new event, but I had a few Chipper HRs not count due to dashboarding, which sucks cause when you hit like me you need every break you can get.

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  • Pergo_PSNP Offline
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    I never even realized this was a thing. How do you know when someone has dashboarded? Is that the "lost connection with the user" message? I've had that a few times and never realized why. So you get the win but not the stats?

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    I have found dashboarding happens when the outcome of a pitch is unrealistic. I will just use Chipper for example, hes batting righty and takes a low and away pitch (out of the zone) for a no doubt HR. That should be an out, a single, a double into the gap if you are really lucky, and maybe a wall scraper HR if you are EXTREMELY lucky. Never would go for a no doubter.

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  • raesONE_PSNR Offline
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    @wingspan1985 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I can't tell if you're joking or not, did SDS really advance the program for you? Big props to them if they did, as it sounds like that system was broken. I started in 18, which was, well...

    I haven't tried the new event, but I had a few Chipper HRs not count due to dashboarding, which sucks cause when you hit like me you need every break you can get.

    Yeah this really happened. I assume they recognized the issue and they handled it accordingly. I did give them big props for doing so at the time, it's one thing to make a mistake but another to own it.

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    I did it the old fashioned way, message somebody I needed to complete the single game mission with BO Griffey and they obliged i gave up the appropriate runs in good faith and that was it.

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    @Chuck_Dizzle29 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    I did it the old fashioned way, message somebody I needed to complete the single game mission with BO Griffey and they obliged i gave up the appropriate runs in good faith and that was it.

    Glad that worked out for you, I didn't want to do that at the time because in theory it's boosting and therefore a ban-able offense. I know the chances are slim that they will actually do so, but you never know.

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    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @Chuck_Dizzle29 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    I did it the old fashioned way, message somebody I needed to complete the single game mission with BO Griffey and they obliged i gave up the appropriate runs in good faith and that was it.

    Glad that worked out for you, I didn't want to do that at the time because in theory it's boosting and therefore a ban-able offense. I know the chances are slim that they will actually do so, but you never know.

    Win boosting was not allowed, but there were people getting matched up in RS boosting stats like crazy to do Pepe.

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    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @wingspan1985 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @raesONE said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    Does anyone remember the Griffey program in 17? You had to tally stats with multiple versions of his cards in online play to eventually unlock that 99 hardware Ken Griffey Jr card. As soon as your opponent would see you have one of those cards in your lineup, they'd know immediately why they were there as they were often lower rated than the rest of your team and also you would be using 99 Griffey instead of these if you had already completed all the missions.

    There was a mission where you had to get hitting stats in 1 game, with I think it was his rookie card. So as soon as you got 1 hit in your first at bat with him, he'd be intentionally walked for the rest of the game despite of the score and situation, just to prevent you from being able to complete it.

    This whole design of the program gave your opponent way too much power in this regard and I actually took the effort to email SDS about this problem after a couple of weeks, realizing it would be impossible to ever complete this. As a result of my email they advanced the mission for me manually so that I could continue completing the program without having to subject myself to the mercy of my opponent every game. They also said that they learned from this concept (surely I wasn't the only one suffering with this issue) and that they would take this kind of online stat tallying into account for upcoming years. 2017 is not that long ago and apparently they already abandoned that mindset.

    Now I understand not everyone dashboards and it's not as impossible to complete the prestige programs as it was to complete the Griffey program in 17. But it gets real old when back to back to back multiple run scoring homeruns with Mantle in the event get dashboarded by a salty opponent and, yet again, having to be subject to the mercy of your opponent.

    I can't tell if you're joking or not, did SDS really advance the program for you? Big props to them if they did, as it sounds like that system was broken. I started in 18, which was, well...

    I haven't tried the new event, but I had a few Chipper HRs not count due to dashboarding, which sucks cause when you hit like me you need every break you can get.

    Yeah this really happened. I assume they recognized the issue and they handled it accordingly. I did give them big props for doing so at the time, it's one thing to make a mistake but another to own it.

    That is cool to hear, I guess I couldn't see them doing that now, so I wasn't sure, I'm a bit thick in the head this morning. I've been tempted to get 17 out just to look at the DD mode. Glad it worked out for you, hope the dashboarding lets up this year for all of us.

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    @theu715 said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    @hoboadam said in The dashboarding issue is actually a design flaw:

    A good data mining sweep of the disconnect collection items would reveal the repeat offenders. SDS should look into it.

    It's annoying but whatever. I just move on. Thanks for the win.

    Not true necessarily. I've got a ton of disconnect items because of offline grinding and needing specific stats with teams or players.

    Your game history will show the difference between you and dashboarding...

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