Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.
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@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
It random not really a game of skill. That’s probably why the gameplay gets a lot of slack.
Enjoy DD while you can. I bet it doesn’t last past 2021. With their packs the way they are they don’t make enough money survive the unethical business practices lawsuits theyll be hit with. Maybe they’ll keep road to the show and franchise. Maybe.
Lawsuits? Lol. Smoke more crack dude.
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@Oski_1-9-9-6 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
It random not really a game of skill. That’s probably why the gameplay gets a lot of slack.
Enjoy DD while you can. I bet it doesn’t last past 2021. With their packs the way they are they don’t make enough money survive the unethical business practices lawsuits theyll be hit with. Maybe they’ll keep road to the show and franchise. Maybe.
Lawsuits? Lol. Smoke more crack dude.
The writing is on the wall. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. I just call it like I see it. I don’t really debate people online because in the age of the internet you end up arguing with someone who works at Walmart or McDonalds who all of a sudden is an expert about something they know nothing about.
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@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
The Simulation seems to take over the game.
The RNG is frustrating.
What is RNG?
Random number generator. Like a slot machine. It’s the hitting system in place.
Do people use that abbreviation as a joke to mock SDS or do we know that this is actually the hitting system in place?
All video games run on random number generation. It's the equation that decides what outcomes will happen. Basically when you swing at a pitch it's like pulling lottery balls, they throw in hitter stats with pitcher stats, and what you pull out is what happens.
There are definitely issues with RNG in this game, some people accept it, while others blame it for all their problems.
That’s why the crybabies post their complaints, to help SDS fix the issues. If we all just accepted the game as is every year, there wouldn’t be much incentive for SDS to put out something better.
Its not really an issue though. The game is going to have RNG. This game is chalk full of real issues, bad players on all star hitting the occasional home run with less than perfect pci placement is sooooo far down the list.
I'm fine with people bringing it up, just not over and over again whenever they lose a game.
The way the RNG is used in this game is quite stupid though.
Input and ratings can work hand in hand. But the way they have this game designed, they work against each other. No one thinks we should be able to paint corners with Michael Kopech all day. Ratings should effect the pitching meter and make it harder to get perfect releases, but perfect should be perfect every single time.
When your kicking a field goal in madden, does a bad kicker just shank perfect kicks on the meter? No, the meter is just extremely hard to hit.
When your shooting a 3 in 2k, does a perfect green release just randomly airball? No the shot meter is just harder to hit based on the players ratings.
This **** is fairly elementary. Attributes should impact the process, not just manipulate outcomes.
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@mike_ph said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
The Simulation seems to take over the game.
The RNG is frustrating.
What is RNG?
Random number generator. Like a slot machine. It’s the hitting system in place.
Do people use that abbreviation as a joke to mock SDS or do we know that this is actually the hitting system in place?
All video games run on random number generation. It's the equation that decides what outcomes will happen. Basically when you swing at a pitch it's like pulling lottery balls, they throw in hitter stats with pitcher stats, and what you pull out is what happens.
There are definitely issues with RNG in this game, some people accept it, while others blame it for all their problems.
That’s why the crybabies post their complaints, to help SDS fix the issues. If we all just accepted the game as is every year, there wouldn’t be much incentive for SDS to put out something better.
Its not really an issue though. The game is going to have RNG. This game is chalk full of real issues, bad players on all star hitting the occasional home run with less than perfect pci placement is sooooo far down the list.
I'm fine with people bringing it up, just not over and over again whenever they lose a game.
The way the RNG is used in this game is quite stupid though.
Input and ratings can work hand in hand. But the way they have this game designed, they work against each other. No one thinks we should be able to paint corners with Michael Kopech all day. Ratings should effect the pitching meter and make it harder to get perfect releases, but perfect should be perfect every single time.
When your kicking a field goal in madden, does a bad kicker just shank perfect kicks on the meter? No, the meter is just extremely hard to hit.
When your shooting a 3 in 2k, does a perfect green release just randomly airball? No the shot meter is just harder to hit based on the players ratings.
This **** is fairly elementary. Attributes should impact the process, not just manipulate outcomes.
And I'm saying people hitting home runs on less than perfect contact is like, 10th down the list of actual problems.
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@mike_ph said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
The Simulation seems to take over the game.
The RNG is frustrating.
What is RNG?
Random number generator. Like a slot machine. It’s the hitting system in place.
Do people use that abbreviation as a joke to mock SDS or do we know that this is actually the hitting system in place?
All video games run on random number generation. It's the equation that decides what outcomes will happen. Basically when you swing at a pitch it's like pulling lottery balls, they throw in hitter stats with pitcher stats, and what you pull out is what happens.
There are definitely issues with RNG in this game, some people accept it, while others blame it for all their problems.
That’s why the crybabies post their complaints, to help SDS fix the issues. If we all just accepted the game as is every year, there wouldn’t be much incentive for SDS to put out something better.
Its not really an issue though. The game is going to have RNG. This game is chalk full of real issues, bad players on all star hitting the occasional home run with less than perfect pci placement is sooooo far down the list.
I'm fine with people bringing it up, just not over and over again whenever they lose a game.
The way the RNG is used in this game is quite stupid though.
Input and ratings can work hand in hand. But the way they have this game designed, they work against each other. No one thinks we should be able to paint corners with Michael Kopech all day. Ratings should effect the pitching meter and make it harder to get perfect releases, but perfect should be perfect every single time.
When your kicking a field goal in madden, does a bad kicker just shank perfect kicks on the meter? No, the meter is just extremely hard to hit.
When your shooting a 3 in 2k, does a perfect green release just randomly airball? No the shot meter is just harder to hit based on the players ratings.
This **** is fairly elementary. Attributes should impact the process, not just manipulate outcomes.
This.
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@MadderBumgarner said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
No Tim Lincecum
No Randy Johnson either
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Not enough Braves cards for me to use.
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@JWKEEP_ said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Trudgeon said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
Playing online, there is hardly any skill involved/needed. What’s the point of pci and perfect pitch releases if the ball is thrown down the middle and if you can hit homeruns on pitches where the pci isn’t even on it. Yet you can get perfect perfect fly outs all the time. It’s not fun playing a game where you have no control over it
I played yesterday hit a perfect/perfect with a right hander and was a Warner track fly out to right center. I looked at the pitch and was low and away fast ball. Now many batters have opposite field power. So even though it was perfect/ perfect was was a perfect hit for that pitch and location. Not every hit can be a home run. No need to complain all the time just have fun with the game.
I would like to interject. I had 3 perfect perfect fly balls today with Mantle, Trout, and Gorman; they were all pitches that missed down the middle (opponent probably had a perfect release too lmao) and they were all under 93mph off the bat. (& before any justifications are attempted to wide with SDS, I used “X” to swing, not circle) Guys with over 100 power swinging and hitting a perfect perfect fly ball and they don’t even go over 93mph??? How does that make sense. Ruins momentum in a game and ruins the fun of placing PCI ESPECIALLY on HOF and Legend. This years game is one of the worst I’ve ever played personally due to horrible pitching outcomes, horrible hits when hitting perfect perfect, and ridiculous/unrealistic fielding animations along with constant dinkers and swinging hints that are hits. Not playing this game until next patch which is disappointing because I have played DD ever since MLB the Show 2012. Those who play are tolerating the BS or they are the ones getting the lucky hits and getting saved from their opponents perfect perfects being outs 80% of the time.
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@tylerslikewhoa said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
The main issue is the community. So many want to blame the game when just aren't as good as they think
I totally agree
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@Trudgeon said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
Playing online, there is hardly any skill involved/needed. What’s the point of pci and perfect pitch releases if the ball is thrown down the middle and if you can hit homeruns on pitches where the pci isn’t even on it. Yet you can get perfect perfect fly outs all the time. It’s not fun playing a game where you have no control over it
DANG! I've written tons and tons of reasons the online play of this game is disappointing at best. Novel-like posts. This guy is able to capture the essence of it all in 4 sentences. SUCCINCT, my brother.
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@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Oski_1-9-9-6 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
It random not really a game of skill. That’s probably why the gameplay gets a lot of slack.
Enjoy DD while you can. I bet it doesn’t last past 2021. With their packs the way they are they don’t make enough money survive the unethical business practices lawsuits theyll be hit with. Maybe they’ll keep road to the show and franchise. Maybe.
Lawsuits? Lol. Smoke more crack dude.
The writing is on the wall. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. I just call it like I see it. I don’t really debate people online because in the age of the internet you end up arguing with someone who works at Walmart or McDonalds who all of a sudden is an expert about something they know nothing about.
Cool...so tell us about your law credentials and what laws are being broken...I do need a good laugh
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@olivegarden2 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
This game has been good so far. There are just so many negative people in the community that expect the game to be perfect. The content is better, gameplay may be worse but it's not as bad as people make it seems like. My main problems: Pack luck is rigged for me, good-okay fly balls, good goods aren't good, and fielding (which has gotten better). Content has been out of this world amazing. New headliners TWICE a week. Prospects and future stars. Not only signature series card! Sick card art! I think this game hasn't been bad. The miserable people in the community that grind the game 24/7 want it to be perfect because this game is the center of their lives.
Look at what you listed as your issues. One, you should not being opening packs because they are actually a scam (this is a personal issue). Two, if I square a ball up and it’s a perfect perfect, it should be a hit 80% of the time as it seems it is an out 80% of the time. I made WS the past two seasons. The horrible fielding animations that still aren’t fixed. Horrible pitches when it’s a good/perfect feedback. Lack of consistency are the issues. We have hundreds of hours of perfect perfect outs, and hundreds of hours of swinging bunts/weak contact for hits. That is not realistic. If I have someone off balance, yeah sometimes there is luck and they get a hit in real life but the majority of the time in the game, it’s almost always a hit. Yet I have a perfect perfect or they have one, and it’s out? This game has perks like content but you are missing the picture along with everyone else. They put this content out to encourage people to buy stubs and open packs and to keep the game relevant because if they didn’t have this content, the game would lose millions of players with a couple of months due to how horrible the gameplay is. I can guarantee that.
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@RealNovaNoah said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
Two, if I square a ball up and it’s a perfect perfect,
Just understand, the only reason you BELIEVE you have a perfect/perfect is that's what the AI feedback is depicting. In reality you may have missed the pitch by a couple inches. The pitch you were "very late" on or "rolled over" may have been the one you actually squared up on as far as when/where you initiated your controller placement.
When the AI does declare a perfect/perfect it just wraps it with a loud "whack" through your speaker and shows a 90-120 mph exit.
It's an animation. All determined by the AI with very little respect to you or your opponent's controller input.
Physics (real life results) are pretty much absent from the MLB the Hit Show experience.
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@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Oski_1-9-9-6 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
It random not really a game of skill. That’s probably why the gameplay gets a lot of slack.
Enjoy DD while you can. I bet it doesn’t last past 2021. With their packs the way they are they don’t make enough money survive the unethical business practices lawsuits theyll be hit with. Maybe they’ll keep road to the show and franchise. Maybe.
Lawsuits? Lol. Smoke more crack dude.
The writing is on the wall. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. I just call it like I see it. I don’t really debate people online because in the age of the internet you end up arguing with someone who works at Walmart or McDonalds who all of a sudden is an expert about something they know nothing about.
Well, I've been a civil litigator since 2001. There is 0 chance of these lawsuits you speak of.
I dont work in McDonalds, but I'm still eager to hear your legal theories supporting your statements.
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@Oski_1-9-9-6 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Oski_1-9-9-6 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@Untchable704 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
It random not really a game of skill. That’s probably why the gameplay gets a lot of slack.
Enjoy DD while you can. I bet it doesn’t last past 2021. With their packs the way they are they don’t make enough money survive the unethical business practices lawsuits theyll be hit with. Maybe they’ll keep road to the show and franchise. Maybe.
Lawsuits? Lol. Smoke more crack dude.
The writing is on the wall. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. I just call it like I see it. I don’t really debate people online because in the age of the internet you end up arguing with someone who works at Walmart or McDonalds who all of a sudden is an expert about something they know nothing about.
Well, I've been a civil litigator since 2001. There is 0 chance of these lawsuits you speak of.
I dont work in McDonalds, but I'm still eager to hear your legal theories supporting your statements.
Imagine your first post was, Lol, smoke crack dude. You can be whatever you want to be on the internet if you’re willing to lie.
I don’t know what’s harder to believe based on that and all of your posts. That you claim to be that. That your claim puts you roughly at the age of 45. Or that you claim to be 45, a civil litigator and type “smoke crack dude” as a retort.
You will see. Won’t be long. But the second greatest thing about the Internet is you can spew incorrect things and never come back to them when you look like a moron.
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@jz2016cubs said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
As I am looking through all of the posts, all I see is people complaining about this game. I think it is fine! Yes, fielding is a problem, as is baserunning, but I like it. Is it just that, as a die-hard baseball fan, this is the only game I have? What are your thoughts. What makes it bad for you?
I don't understand why you would think the gameplay is fine overall if you lose most of your online games. Not trying to take shots, but if your losing more games than not, last thing I would do is come on here and say gameplay is fine. Offline, the game plays better.
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Maybe he's self aware enough to realize it's usually his fault when loses.
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@mike_ph said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
The Simulation seems to take over the game.
The RNG is frustrating.
What is RNG?
Random number generator. Like a slot machine. It’s the hitting system in place.
Do people use that abbreviation as a joke to mock SDS or do we know that this is actually the hitting system in place?
All video games run on random number generation. It's the equation that decides what outcomes will happen. Basically when you swing at a pitch it's like pulling lottery balls, they throw in hitter stats with pitcher stats, and what you pull out is what happens.
There are definitely issues with RNG in this game, some people accept it, while others blame it for all their problems.
That’s why the crybabies post their complaints, to help SDS fix the issues. If we all just accepted the game as is every year, there wouldn’t be much incentive for SDS to put out something better.
Its not really an issue though. The game is going to have RNG. This game is chalk full of real issues, bad players on all star hitting the occasional home run with less than perfect pci placement is sooooo far down the list.
I'm fine with people bringing it up, just not over and over again whenever they lose a game.
The way the RNG is used in this game is quite stupid though.
Input and ratings can work hand in hand. But the way they have this game designed, they work against each other. No one thinks we should be able to paint corners with Michael Kopech all day. Ratings should effect the pitching meter and make it harder to get perfect releases, but perfect should be perfect every single time.
When your kicking a field goal in madden, does a bad kicker just shank perfect kicks on the meter? No, the meter is just extremely hard to hit.
When your shooting a 3 in 2k, does a perfect green release just randomly airball? No the shot meter is just harder to hit based on the players ratings.
This **** is fairly elementary. Attributes should impact the process, not just manipulate outcomes.
Very well articulated, and with examples from sports games to boot. Best justification ever. There are so many ways the hitting, pitching and fielding interfaces can be varied to accommodate the various influencing factors (attributes, difficulty chosen, difficulty of play, chosen input method) that determine what the user gets to work with when swinging or throwing and how hard it is to get that perfect input.
It seems so logical so I just wonder if either:
a) programming it will require a very resource consuming complete overhaul of the various reading user inputs code; or
b) it has been proven that no matter how user-centric it is, it’s just not as much fun as we think; or
c) no matter how difficult the input is made through all of the contributing factors, there are some people who simply cannot be challenged because they are so good and will have perfect input almost every time no matter how difficult it is, or cannot be competitive because they are so bad that no matter how easy it is for them they almost always have poor input.I’m, in all seriousness, lending towards c) but I think all three are most likely contributing factors to the alleged randomness of outcomes
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@NYS012 said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
@T_H_O_R_Storm said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
The Simulation seems to take over the game.
The RNG is frustrating.
What is RNG?
Random number generator. Basically you throw a pitch and RNG randomized day 1-100. If it’s 1-10 you get a good location. If it’s 90-100 it’s a meatball. No user control
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@maskedgrappler said in Why is this game so hated? Voice you complaints here.:
Maybe he's self aware enough to realize it's usually his fault when loses.
Lol. It usually is. I have lost about 5 games because my CF can't catch a fly ball hit right at him, but otherwise, it is my fault. Everyone likes to blame the game when, in reality, it is just the fact that they are bad.
