@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 wonāt let check swings bail people out as often:
@pnwtroutbum_psn said in Thank god 21 wonāt let check swings bail people out as often:
I donāt even think 50/50 is necessary, the pitcher does deserve a little more benefit of the doubt, like maybe 65-35 or 60-40: idk but thatās just my thing. Itās still random though is the only thing that bothers me, Iāve been averaging about 10ish check swings per game I play. Which I think is average, or fair. In the beta, I had 3 good timed checks in the same game go for strikes. And I might get 1-2 calls a game. Doesnāt make or break me. But the weird part is the ones where I feel like Iām doing everything right and I still getting those majority called strikes. And the worst part, more often than not, one or sometimes both of the swings I get called in my favor, I know I swung and got bailed. and it doesnāt feel good to get bailed out like that, just like it doesnāt feel great to see so many good timed check swing go for strikes. Everything that Iāve seen, appears to be random. Only now favoring the pitcher the same way it did the batters in 20. Thatās fine, but only as an immediate action response, where I hope to see them balance it better in the future so it canāt be exploited but it can still be a tool.
At this point though I wonāt lie, Iām all aboard the get rid of check swings train. It pains me to say it but they canāt seem to balance it, if itās even possible to balance it.. the check swing bandits ruined it for the rest of us
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Edit: sorry for another long post on the subject btw. Lol Iām on my phone and itās easy to get lost. Just trying to be clear and remain as unbiased as possible. As a pitcher itās great, but I care about hitting a lot too and see how this can hinder higher level guys, where every input matters and I donāt believe there is much room for randomness is all! ([censored], even my apology for going long went long
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I look at it like this I do agree itās more random now. But Iād rather it be pro-pitcher then pro hitter because the hitter has the advantage to just not swing and take a pitch.
Thatās what Iām saying. pitchers definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt, more than 50/50 in a random system, but definitely not 90/10 either.
I donāt think this is a make or break it thing at the end of the day, but Iāll be a little sad if I check swing with good timing on 3-2 count that I earned. 2 outs in the 9th, I read the pitch as itās coming and since Iām not a robot, I canāt tell if itās on the black or not. Itās close. 2 strikes though, gotta protect. Itās very close but I read itās going to break off the plate and with good timing, I manage to check my swing. Iād say I earned the walk. Oh well. Strike 3. Game decided for you, input didnāt matter.
Thatās all Iād rather avoid, but overall Iād love them to find a balance that calls strikes on people flailing way early/late on pitches 2 ft off the plate (this was the most egregious one IMO) and then also a system where good timed or just early checks are rewarded more often. Consecutive check swings get punished, regardless of input after a certain number to avoid bandits.. but I donāt think the bandits are checking with good timing every time anyways, guarantee you on my life theyāre not doing it with good timing. Theyāre the flailers.. Haha. but anyways.. Etc. etc etc. the point is that I donāt think any of thatās out of line.
Iām not a developer and have no idea how it works but something like that would be what Iād strive for. It feels more fair than random. Who knows if itās possible though? Not for SDS, no offense at all, we just havenāt seen it, at least for a long while. Maybe my expectations are too high? Idk man, I just hate randomness overriding inputs and as little as this seems, every pitch counts in a competitive mode, especially in the 700s-800s. Someone go ahead and tell me Iām wrong and why. thatās fine, but I play this game a lot and have for a long time. Iām only trying to come at this as fair and unbiased as possible. This feels like a way better solution, or at least the start of one because thereās PLENTY more depth, rather than randomizing ANOTHER part of the game.
I swear Iām done ranting on the subject after this btw 