@a_perfectgame said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
@pnwtroutbum_psn said in Thank god 21 won’t let check swings bail people out as often:
I don’t even think 50/50 is necessary, the pitcher does deserve a little more benefit of the doubt, like maybe 65-35 or 60-40: idk but that’s just my thing. It’s still random though is the only thing that bothers me, I’ve been averaging about 10ish check swings per game I play. Which I think is average, or fair. In the beta, I had 3 good timed checks in the same game go for strikes. And I might get 1-2 calls a game. Doesn’t make or break me. But the weird part is the ones where I feel like I’m doing everything right and I still getting those majority called strikes. And the worst part, more often than not, one or sometimes both of the swings I get called in my favor, I know I swung and got bailed. and it doesn’t feel good to get bailed out like that, just like it doesn’t feel great to see so many good timed check swing go for strikes. Everything that I’ve seen, appears to be random. Only now favoring the pitcher the same way it did the batters in 20. That’s fine, but only as an immediate action response, where I hope to see them balance it better in the future so it can’t be exploited but it can still be a tool.
At this point though I won’t lie, I’m all aboard the get rid of check swings train. It pains me to say it but they can’t seem to balance it, if it’s even possible to balance it.. the check swing bandits ruined it for the rest of us ️
Edit: sorry for another long post on the subject btw. Lol I’m on my phone and it’s easy to get lost. Just trying to be clear and remain as unbiased as possible. As a pitcher it’s great, but I care about hitting a lot too and see how this can hinder higher level guys, where every input matters and I don’t believe there is much room for randomness is all! ([censored], even my apology for going long went long️)
I look at it like this I do agree it’s more random now. But I’d rather it be pro-pitcher then pro hitter because the hitter has the advantage to just not swing and take a pitch.
That’s what I’m saying. pitchers definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt, more than 50/50 in a random system, but definitely not 90/10 either.
I don’t think this is a make or break it thing at the end of the day, but I’ll be a little sad if I check swing with good timing on 3-2 count that I earned. 2 outs in the 9th, I read the pitch as it’s coming and since I’m not a robot, I can’t tell if it’s on the black or not. It’s close. 2 strikes though, gotta protect. It’s very close but I read it’s going to break off the plate and with good timing, I manage to check my swing. I’d say I earned the walk. Oh well. Strike 3. Game decided for you, input didn’t matter.
That’s all I’d rather avoid, but overall I’d love them to find a balance that calls strikes on people flailing way early/late on pitches 2 ft off the plate (this was the most egregious one IMO) and then also a system where good timed or just early checks are rewarded more often. Consecutive check swings get punished, regardless of input after a certain number to avoid bandits.. but I don’t think the bandits are checking with good timing every time anyways, guarantee you on my life they’re not doing it with good timing. They’re the flailers.. Haha. but anyways.. Etc. etc etc. the point is that I don’t think any of that’s out of line.
I’m not a developer and have no idea how it works but something like that would be what I’d strive for. It feels more fair than random. Who knows if it’s possible though? Not for SDS, no offense at all, we just haven’t seen it, at least for a long while. Maybe my expectations are too high? Idk man, I just hate randomness overriding inputs and as little as this seems, every pitch counts in a competitive mode, especially in the 700s-800s. Someone go ahead and tell me I’m wrong and why. that’s fine, but I play this game a lot and have for a long time. I’m only trying to come at this as fair and unbiased as possible. This feels like a way better solution, or at least the start of one because there’s PLENTY more depth, rather than randomizing ANOTHER part of the game.
I swear I’m done ranting on the subject after this btw