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Sometimes I can buy 70 cards and sometimes I can buy 1.....same result...10min, 20min, 1hr, 2hr and now 3hr for what?? Like I'm not doing anything that violates the TOS, there's absolutely no reason besides I buy and sell to many cards to fast legitimately mind you, so I'm basically being put in timeout because I make to many stubs in a certain time frame? It would be super helpful if someone could explain what I'm doing WRONG, because I'm doing every sale and purchase without cheating so what TOS am I violating to continuously have this issue?

So is the speed that I place my orders? How many orders I do in a certain amount of time? If so how many and what time frame? None of that should matter because I do everything on an android phone and dont break any TOS. You can use the app to buy and sell.....just dont buy or sell to much....oh and dont place orders fast either. It's really messed up I have to keep dealing with this because I'm fast at flipping and have alot of time on my hands right now.

Well it let me do maybe 60 sell orders and then gave me a 3 hr timeout. It would really help if I knew why it was doing that. I even slowed down on placing orders which I hate so much, I can do 20 orders in 30 seconds, but I have to make it take 2 minutes for every card I do 20 orders on? Why does how fast I hot "finalize" make me a bot? I can't do 500 orders in 30 seconds like they do so it should be pretty easy to tell.

I was able to use it to place like 700 buy orders, but when I tired selling I got through maybe 20 before I got the "error occured" message again. I stopped until I hear from Manu cause I dont want to have another 2 hr timeout...lol

@TripleH-4481_PSN See brother I have alot of time on my hands right now, can't do much physically so the Show and the app is like my therapy!!

I only need 15 cards as of today, and I got there by flipping my [censored] off!!! Lol

I dont flip the hig value cards because then you're fighting with bots for 3 hours to sell 1 card that might net you 3k after they tank it down from the 15k you thought you'd make when you bought it.

I strictly stick to Commons, I'll buy 75 cards (20 of each one) at 9 stubs and sell for 200 -85 stubs, probably do this 5 times a day. I make 300k easy a day doing this, and I couldn't do half of that of I couldn't use the app.

I can do 20 orders of 75 cards on the app in the time it would take me to do 10 on the console, so the bots dont bother me, I can make more selling Commons then somebody fighting bots for 3 hrs to sell a 300k card for 3k profit.

So I sincerely would hate it if it went strictly console.

Keep up the good fight brother.....Let me know when I can try selling again, because I'm already at 2 hrs, not trying to get a 4 hr timeout!!!

I tried selling the cards I purchased overnight when I woke up....let me post maybe 7 and then I got the "error occurred "so I logged out and back in and got the 10 min timeout, waited, tried when 10 mins was up tried to sell one card got 20 min timeout, have tried each time, got a 40 min 1hr and now I'm at 2 hr timeout. This is definitely worse then dealing with bots.

@FusyDutchman_XBL just making sure it's wasn't just me. Thanks!!

I'm getting the log into the game on console first on every tab. Anyone else?

@Oliver230230230_PSN Keith Foulkes, Max Clark, Seiya Suzuki, Roch Red Diamond just to name a few. Was battling on each for a few hours plus over the past few days and and all of a sudden I would go to do 3 sales to try and sneak one past and once I did (so like 3 seconds) they dropped 200 orders. I screenshot all of them and sent them to support so hopefully they would do something, but Im pretty sure they are still going. I just went to check and I'm restricted.
.lol...but they are still at it. It's absolutely [censored] ridiculous.

Went on to check my orders and I'm restricted for absolutely no reason. So pretty [censored] on my end.

Just went on to check my orders and it says I'm restricted AGAIN. Now I took screenshots of a dude I went up and down with for 3 hours on a card before he dropped 200 cards in by the time I did 2 and completely screwed me out of 200k and every order was for at least a 10k loss. I sent those along with screen shots of the bots on Max Clark, Keith Foulkes the Roch Red Diamond and a few others to support and said WTF, each one went from normal back and fourth to 300 orders in seconds, its blatantly obvious, and they have yet to do anything or respond. And they are still doing it. But they restricted me for a 6th time for flipping legit, I make 300k a day, but its because I just had back surgery and can't do [censored] else. So BRAVO SDS at allowing the hackers cheaters and bots to continue raping the legit flippers and managing to ban those of us who legitimately buy and sell. Little fishy how the players who flip and make alot of stubs get banned, but the bots and cheaters don't, its almost like......SDS.....doesnt want to get rid of the bots. Why would they, then how would they dictate the market!

Today I was flipping Seiya Suzuki, I had like 9 I posted them and as I finish posting the last one and it goes back to the market, so .5 seconds and someone posted 48 Suzukis 1 stub less then me. So first, unless you can stop time, there's no way you can post 48 orders by the time I post 1, and 2nd, he posted double the allowed amount. So I screenshot that [censored] and sent it to support and said "why don't you ban these [censored] instead of restricting those of us that do it legitimately.

Surprisingly I got a response within an hour and Miquel said they take this very seriously and we're going to look into it and take appropriate action. Apparently the appropriate action is to restrict the person who reported the cheating [censored].

This year has been completely unbelievable with this app. They nailed restricting people who are good at flipping and do it legitimately, it's the cheaters, bots and hackers that they seem to have trouble banning.

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@manu__sds_mlbts , when you've been a loyal customer for years now, who's gotten every card of those 4 years, legitimately, simply by grinding flipping cards, and this year you get restricted 5 times, the last one for over a week then you can sigh.

I just had a spinal fusion, so I can't do very much currently, but one thing I can do is play The Show and use the app. Which the past month and a half has been as easy to use as the Nintendo Power Glove with it taking longer to do 20 orders of 5 cards then it does to get actual Topps Chrome Platinum delivered by Temu. As fast as I am at flipping cards, I can't place 15 orders in the milliseconds it takes for someone to place a single order, so it should be easily distinguished Im not a bot.

Im not sure how you don't understand the frustration, You'd think players who consistently buy your game and dedicate countless hours playing and even more hours grinding on the app legitimately would be appreciated, not "sighed" at for being angry at basically be called a cheater and restricted from using the app over and over.

So Manu, sigh all you want at the players, loyalty and frustration with complete nonsense, and when they all finally get tired of paying $100 dollars to be an early release beta tester, we will all collectively sigh when you are no longer employed. Do better my guy.

@manu__sds_mlbts , when you've been a loyal customer for years now, who's gotten every card of those 4 years, legitimately, simply by grinding flipping cards, and this year you get restricted 5 times, the last one for over a week then you can sigh.

I just had a spinal fusion, so I can't do very much currently, but one thing I can do is play The Show and use the app. Which the past month and a half has been as easy to use as the Nintendo Power Glove with it taking longer to do 20 orders of 5 cards then it does to get actual Topps Chrome Platinum delivered by Temu. As fast as I am at flipping cards, I can't place 15 orders in the milliseconds it takes for someone to place a single order, so it should be easily distinguished Im not a bot.

Im not sure how you don't understand the frustration, You'd think players who consistently buy your game and dedicate countless hours playing and even more hours grinding on the app legitimately would be appreciated, not "sighed" at for being angry at basically be called a cheater and restricted from using the app over and over.

So Manu, sigh all you want at the players, loyalty and frustration with complete nonsense, and when they all finally get tired of paying $100 dollars to be an early release beta tester, we will all collectively sigh when you are no longer employed. Do better my guy.

I swear its them trying to discourage players who make a killing legitimately so we stop flipping and waste money buying stubs. They put the bots in so they can blame the restrictions on them, "oops just trying to deter bots" there's an obvious difference between a player manually flipping, even if they are fast, and 20 orders in a millisecond bot.

I don't know if its happening to anyone else, but I've been flipping non stop for the last couple days since we stopped having to hard close every 5 orders, well I just placed 5 orders and it said my account was restricted. Hard closed placed 5 more orders and it did it again....Have tried 9 times with the same result.

I've been buying alot and selling every couple hours since 4am and I had no issues until just now. Just a heads up to anyone grinding, I don't know what caused it, like I said I've been flipping constantly for 3 days now, so why all of a sudden would it start restricting every 5 orders again?

Not working for me either on android, glad to see we are back to "fetching data" forever again.

Still down, at least on Xbox. Internet is perfect but its saying I'm not connected.