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Totally agree but I'll add another thing.

Get rid of the loadouts!!! It's SO realistic that on Monday I hit for Power, on Tuesday I'm a Speedster that can drag bunt and on Wednesday I throw 99mph heater but wouldn't Hit the ball with a shovel at the plate.

Please make it that you build a player and that your decision affect your future and your development.

Wanna simple solution? Scale down to RTTS2020, get rid of the podcast that no one watches, add a narrative track and off the field events. Then, Boom! there you are, SportsGame of the year!

@richismushbud_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

Everyone needs to chill and stop acting like entitled brats.

Not to be rude or anything but since we paid for a product, we're entitled to said product to work as advertised... That's kind of how it supposed to be... No?

They said they would fix things, I simply asked what was their plan and when it was planned...

Impressive how fast things went south with this release!!

Feature premiere promised improvement across de board and what we got is a clear set-back from 2020 on virtually every aspect, except maybe Stadium Builder, which is new and could be promising with a proper vault system.

The game is the same graphically, RTTS is broken and all the realism was sucked out of it with a broken ballplayer systems that is a bad idea on paper poorly executed... I mean what game in this world has a career mode in which you CAN'T START a career more than once??? You can start a new save file BUT your player will have the skills of your All-star Player saved from another world... You can be a speedy defender on Monday and a slow power hitter on Wednesday...

I mean even EA would not try this... Imagine being a scrambling QB on Monday and a run stop linebacker the next Sunday...

So basically it's like they took The Show 2020 made it worse and released it again... The next gen consoles makes loading faster but their sever fiasco is making things incredibly slow...

I genuinely think this game should be a case study in college class in the next few years... This game so far is the perfect example of "over promise, under deliver"... Next question is do you fix it OR do you Keep the money and run?

I'm sure they'll fix their servers and give us a few packs to forgive them but I really hope they will work on RTTS... I don't think they'll bother trying to fix any offline mode, but I'd like if they at least acknowledged the problems and promised solutions for 2022...

I know it's sad that 5 days after release I'm already looking forward to 2022... But seriously, 2020 was WAY better to play offline than this overhyped piece of software...

I second your opinion... RTTS 21 is the worst career mode of any sports game I ever owned...

They took a bad idea on paper and executed it poorly with the results we see now...

Getting to the MLB shouldn't be decided with cards you picked out of virtual packs you bought... It should be a challenge and you should be able to have different ways of doing it with different player style... Choices you make should have a lasting impact on your career, you shouldn't be able to change your style personality every other games...

Ohh and maybe not Linking it to DD could be a good idea so we can have more than a Player/PSN account...

@collin_sds_psn said in Submit Feedback Since SDS are not acting on this community:

The team is working on things. You can read about it here, https://theshow.com/road-to-the-show-feedback-improvements-repeat/

I really hope that this is only a start...

The things in your post makes the mode "Playable" as it is unplayable right now...

We're talking about making it "enjoyable" and since you said "many future goals of the system won’t be realized for some time" about the unplayable part, I strongly doubt something good will happen with the mode this year...

There's no shame in trying and admitting we're wrong. We're actually proud you tried something to push the boundaries. For DD players it's really a good way to play and adapt your player to your roster...

But now that we see that it was a really bad idea for RTTS, be honest about it, tell us that "MyPlayer" will stick to DD and that RTTS will be back to it's own offline mode.

We want that mode where we can build & grow different players for fun with a true "Career" scenario. We want to build 2-3-4 different careers with different players, that's the thrill of this mode.

We start Overall 30 and everything is capped at 50. Meaning our play will impact 20% of the overall while Cards we should buy with Stubs will get players from 50 to 99 overall...

Simple analysis, They want us to spend stubs to get cards or we're destined to a long grinding with average players... How do we get Stubs? Playing DD OR Spending Cash...

Basically, it's a great way to get more money... It's just really poorly hidden... Reminds me of StarWars Battlefront 2 scandal... I can't believe SDS is treating their players like EA does... That's scary....

Realism isn't a priority, Cash is... I hope that with the Microsoft GamePass contract they singed, they will have enough money to hire a team of Dev to fix this mess... Or at least develop something acceptable for 2022

@funkelstiltskin_psn said in What Happened?:

So I’ve been a huge Show fan since the first one came out. 95% of the time I’m playing “Road to the show”. I don’t understand what the thought process is behind this years game but there is a lot that I’m discovering about it that is disappointing.

From the first start up I went to road to the show and I’m not even able to create my character. I’m drafted as “Joe Random”. I find out I’m forced into playing as a 2 way player. It’s already a tough grind to level up a character when you focus on pitching or hitting. I don’t like the idea of doing both at once.

But at least those 2 irritations have workarounds.

Next problem is any time I go to my players load out I need to edit my uniform equipment displayed on my player. If I want to go from painter to cheese, after making the switch I got to open my equipment and switch on using batting gloves from 1 to both hands for example.

Switching between my pitcher and separate hitter is the same deal. It carries over. I have wristbands and compression sleeves on my hitter shown and so they show up next time I load my pitcher.

Pitches: I only have 3 pitches this year as a RTTS pitcher. I want to learn my 4th and 5th pitch types. This is hugely disappointing.

Sliders: I’ll be honest. I like to adjust the RTTS sliders to give me a bit of an advantage. Cant do it this year though or you forfeit XP.

Create-a-stadium: after 3 or 4 times of getting disconnected from the Show servers I was able to push through a finished stadium. Though I have no idea how to assign it to my Diamond Dynasty team. It’ll probably reveal itself to me sooner or later but it shouldn’t be a mystery.

The fact that I had to pay $10 more this year for the PS5 and with all these bugs and takeaways is really a black mark on a game I look forward to playing every year.

It’s another rush-to-market, patch-it-later mess along the lines of Cyberpunk. Wasn’t enough testing it feels like. Just really disappointing.

That sums it up quite well... And since everything carries over, you are stuck with the same player everywhere, with every game saved...

As for updates, since the game is a yearly release, they must start to work on it real soon, so I don't expect a lot of patch... Let's face it, they better start 2022 soon they a A LOT of work to do!

@sgmrock_xbl said in It's time you start refunding people their money:

Sad state of game releases these days is they rarely come out fully baked. Normally takes a good three to six months to get them where they should have been at release. Sometimes even longer, I’m looking at you Cyberpunk.

I understand that for games like GTA/RDR/etc... They are built from scratch and they a have long lifespan so 3/6 months is Allright to fix them... But since Sports Games are yearly release, they have a small "Post release" patching window and then they start to work on next year release...

My guess is they'll make it "playable" by patching the progression system but the rest will stay the same. It will be still linked with DD, we'll still be stuck with one player, we'll still have to deal with the ridiculous loadouts, we won't see any improvements on realism & immersion.

Even though I'd love a refund, it's not gonna happen... All I can do is wait for 2022 and remind myself that "feature premiere" are full of half-truths and missleading informations...

New guidelines :

• No-preorder from SDS anymore;
• Come back here to read players opinions 10 days after release to know what is REALLY happening with the game.

@joshjays44_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@map47_mlbts said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@richismushbud_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

Everyone needs to chill and stop acting like entitled brats.

Not to be rude or anything but since we paid for a product, we're entitled to said product to work as advertised... That's kind of how it supposed to be... No?

They said they would fix things, I simply asked what was their plan and when it was planned...

Karen much?

Simply asking questions, no need to take it personal fanboy. Please stop being offended by someone asking simple questions.... That's a Karen move you're pulling right there

If you are happy with the game as it is, fine Happy for you.

I'm just asking questions... since they acknowledged the problems, I wanted to know their timeline. Simple as that.

Your best bet for the list of différence would be to watch the Feature Premiere of the BallPlayer feature on YouTube. It will explain how it is working now.

Lonng Story Short RTTS is now linked with DD, which means it is not a pure offline mode anymore.

• You can have multiple saves BUT only ONE Player. So if you start all over, you'll be keeping all the stats/traits of your first player.

• All attributes are capped at 50 and other attributes are unlocked with Cards you get in packs/progression that you pick before each games. So basically Game 1 you have Speed 85+ and Power in the 60's and the mext day speed is now 41 and Power 83 because you loaded différent cards... (I know it's dumb but that's what they did)

• No More personality perks

• No more archetype to pick at the start

• No more "Training/evaluation" at the start, you start at the draft directly

• You can't change the sliders or you'll lose progression. (I used to turn trades to the minimum but now I can't and I have to live with the bonehead moove my virtual GM is making)

• You are forced to be a 2-way player at the start. You can't decide to be only a position player. You'll have to pitch a few games even if you hate it... Same goes if you want to be a pitcher, you'll have to be a position player for a few games.

• They made a podcast with people commenting your career... It's pointless, I've skipped nearly all of them...

• It's built to funnel you into DD play and hopefully spend $$$ on the game...

There are the differences I noted... Sorry...

@joshjays44_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@map47_mlbts said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@joshjays44_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@map47_mlbts said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@richismushbud_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

Everyone needs to chill and stop acting like entitled brats.

Not to be rude or anything but since we paid for a product, we're entitled to said product to work as advertised... That's kind of how it supposed to be... No?

They said they would fix things, I simply asked what was their plan and when it was planned...

Karen much?

Simply asking questions, no need to take it personal fanboy. Please stop being offended by someone asking simple questions.... That's a Karen move you're pulling right there

If you are happy with the game as it is, fine Happy for you.

I'm just asking questions... since they acknowledged the problems, I wanted to know their timeline. Simple as that.

The reverse Karen comeback..such a Karen move. But seriously you're asking developers when they'll release the next patch?...are you new to gaming?...the simple answer is "Its done when its done"..now what other silly questions do you want to ask next on this forum?...go ahead and ask something about when someone is gonna respond to your ticket..go ahead.

Well... They admitted they dropped the ball on the release and they also actually said they were listening to players and their community... So I tried my luck with a simple question...

I still don't know why it triggered you and still wondering why you are wasting your time reading and replying in this thread if the question isn't important to you...

Seriously, if you don't care about something why even bother wasting time replying? Go your own way, have fun with your day and let me wait for my answer. If they provide one, good for me if not, well... It seems like you don't care anyway so why are you even reading this???

Anyway I look at this, you don't have the answer to my question and you have nothing to gain from them replying to me or not... So... Be a grown up for a second and go on with your day. Go reply to some other thread where your answers could be useful to somebody...

There seems to be A LOT of players sharing your opinion.

I've been playing The Show 09 and well, sadly I think it was better than this...

@joshjays44_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@map47_mlbts said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@joshjays44_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@map47_mlbts said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@joshjays44_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@map47_mlbts said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

@richismushbud_psn said in Is there Game Update #9 or are you done?:

Everyone needs to chill and stop acting like entitled brats.

Not to be rude or anything but since we paid for a product, we're entitled to said product to work as advertised... That's kind of how it supposed to be... No?

They said they would fix things, I simply asked what was their plan and when it was planned...

Karen much?

Simply asking questions, no need to take it personal fanboy. Please stop being offended by someone asking simple questions.... That's a Karen move you're pulling right there

If you are happy with the game as it is, fine Happy for you.

I'm just asking questions... since they acknowledged the problems, I wanted to know their timeline. Simple as that.

The reverse Karen comeback..such a Karen move. But seriously you're asking developers when they'll release the next patch?...are you new to gaming?...the simple answer is "Its done when its done"..now what other silly questions do you want to ask next on this forum?...go ahead and ask something about when someone is gonna respond to your ticket..go ahead.

Well... They admitted they dropped the ball on the release and they also actually said they were listening to players and their community... So I tried my luck with a simple question...

I still don't know why it triggered you and still wondering why you are wasting your time reading and replying in this thread if the question isn't important to you...

Seriously, if you don't care about something why even bother wasting time replying? Go your own way, have fun with your day and let me wait for my answer. If they provide one, good for me if not, well... It seems like you don't care anyway so why are you even reading this???

Anyway I look at this, you don't have the answer to my question and you have nothing to gain from them replying to me or not... So... Be a grown up for a second and go on with your day. Go reply to some other thread where your answers could be useful to somebody...

When did they say they dropped the ball? I've never read anything about SDS saying this...never once read or heard anything on this forum or any other media. Maybe I missed it and I'm totally clueless so can you guide me to some literature or video about this?. And what's this "I still don't know why it triggered you"...have you seen my previous posts on this forum?. Am I someone that gets "triggered"?...are you just saying triggered cause its what you say when someone calls you out on your BS?. If you ask a silly question someone is gonna respond with a silly answer, it just so happens I responded to it. The answer to your question for a second time is 95% of the time is "its done when its done"...a developer isn't gonna come out and say "oh kind sir, the next patch will be out at your best convenience...I apologize for the wait"

Just right there : https://theshow.com/a-messa050721/

The message clearly acknowledge the issues they had, they gave us a few pack as a "thank you we're sorry about this" and they said they were listening to feedback.

So my question is legitimate as they ask and said they would act on it.

Seriously guys, if your time is valuable stop wasting it here and actually go enjoy the game if you like it as it is. Let people with real answers reply to this topic instead of assuming things and makeup answers on their behalf...

Have a nice Sunday boys.

Since last week I haven't read anything from SDS on the hundreds of thread stating how RTTS is broken...

So I checked and if you click on the "Help section", you pick The Show 21 and you scroll down to the "Submit Feedback" or "Report Bug" section.

I gave it a try and so should you. I mean, if they don't read us here, they may reply to our individual feedback...

Since they always come with the "You asked for this so we did it", maybe if we're asking enough they'll fix RTTS for 2022... OR they won't do it and take DD money and run...

There have been some game updates to fix things but the product as it is today isn't anywhere they said they would bring it. In one livestream they said there would be more updates and that some would take longer.

So... SDS, since there were no patches or any news for the last 3 weeks and since we're now 2 months after launch, I have two simple questions...

1. Are you finished patching the game?
2. If you're not done, what is the timeline and the roadmap for the next patches?

It's been 2 months we're "enjoying" a broken game on so many levels. Granted that your previous patches made it playable, so Thanks I Guess, but since it's a yearly release and we're 2 months in rhe 2021 edition. A little transparency on your intentions would be greatly appreciated.

After all, we're paying customers, would be nice to know of you're done or if you're still working on things. (Beside player program that helps you selling stubs)

Please @Collin_SDS_PSN and @Victor_SDS_PSN a follow-up on this would be nice.

@wsfields98-gmail-com_mlbts said in Submit Feedback Since SDS are not acting on this community:

@thebootman88_psn said in Submit Feedback Since SDS are not acting on this community:

@map47_mlbts said in Submit Feedback Since SDS are not acting on this community:

We start Overall 30 and everything is capped at 50. Meaning our play will impact 20% of the overall while Cards we should buy with Stubs will get players from 50 to 99 overall...

Simple analysis, They want us to spend stubs to get cards or we're destined to a long grinding with average players... How do we get Stubs? Playing DD OR Spending Cash...

Basically, it's a great way to get more money... It's just really poorly hidden... Reminds me of StarWars Battlefront 2 scandal... I can't believe SDS is treating their players like EA does... That's scary....

Realism isn't a priority, Cash is... I hope that with the Microsoft GamePass contract they singed, they will have enough money to hire a team of Dev to fix this mess... Or at least develop something acceptable for 2022

That is actually not true. The perk cards are the ones you can buy on the market and from my experience they do not increase your OVR level. The only card that increases that is the archetype card, which cannot be purchased on the market. The only way to get them is to complete in-game tasks. So in a way the only way to increase OVR us through gameplay. For instance, my speedster archetype had me at 58. After a season of completing tasks, I was 66 with the Silver Slick Speedster Archetype. I'm about halfway towards the Gold Archetype on the speedster tree. The only way to upgrade speedster is by tallying 24 plate appearances and stealing bases. Once you get to slick speedster, you can also increase by fielding. Since these cards are not available on the market, you can only get them by completing on field tasks. So all of the OVR progression is tied to play.

And guess wheres the only mode progression towards getting those said attributes resides... DD which has proven to be the only mode in which playing your DD player actually tracks, and having a good team around that player will make it easier to progress your player and reach its goals, as well as equipment that you use stubs for to buy and it helps your overall player, and if you read the article it even stats that your Ballplayer is designed to have to only necessarily need to play DD if your trying to "max your stats" a legit quote from the very article sds is referring to

They are steering everyone to DD and the card buying system...

Meanwhile EA is getting sued in several countries for the same thing with their loot boxes "Ultimate Team"...

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5996912

I enjoy the card system in Conquest / March to October / etc... But now it is SO central to the game and forced upon players, I wonder if the same kind of lawsuit could happen with TheShow franchise...

DD is fun from time to time but I really hope SDS will provide us with Quality Offline game mode in next year version. Trying to steer everything and everyone to DD might be a costly decision on the customer loyalty side of things and on the legal side as well...

@hoboadam_psn said in MLBTS22 : QA is a total failure:

@calikat68_xbl said in MLBTS22 : QA is a total failure:

@luvmyxbox_xbl said in MLBTS22 : QA is a total failure:

Whoever was in charge of QA for MLBTS 22 did a very bad job.

First of all, so many crashes in 22. 21 the game never crashed on me once. 22 is a plethora of crashes in all modes.

Another example : in DD, when I go into choose uniform, the uniform I chose doesn't display on the player - home or away - 21 did not have this problem. You can argue what's the big deal, it's insignificant. I can see that point of view. But the little things add up and show how sloppy this game is.

I can list countless other things but I don't understand how 21 was so tight when it came to QA and how 22 fails miserably in this department. Did they change QA teams for 22? I would be really embarrassed if I was part of that team.

Such a terrible take. QA does catch these issues, however, QA is NOT the team who fixes them. Stop blaming QA and push the issue onto the dev team, who are ultimately responsible.

Sorry, but no matter what a dev team does, QA is the last line of defense here before a patch hits production.

What SDS really needs is a UAT team in production that can test stuff for 24 hours before it hits as a patch. (UAT = User Acceptance Testing)

Devs know how stuff should work. QA should have standard things to look out for, especially for previously "fixed" items. I. Addition, QA should have baseline standards that are tested regardless of what they are testing. Examples include, menu navigation, market transactions, advancing a mini season playoff series, BR rewards etc. UAT should target specific changes. QA should make sure everything works every time.

Now some are going to start saying I don't know what I'm talking about. I've been part of doing DEV, QA, UAT and using stuff in PROD for 15+ years in finance. Nothing goes from DEV to PROD without QA and UAT.

DEV knows how to fix stuff. But you can't just expect an end user to be able to give a Dev the solution. During the QA process, you have steps to check, and you must select pass/fail in the QA reporting environment.

I've merged data and systems for Dean Witter, Discover, Morgan Stanley, Smith Barney, PFPC, DST, First data etc etc etc.

Game companies should have similar QA processes. Most do that I've played. This game, not so much.

Great answer!

Anyone that has ever been part of a decent software development team would agree with you.

I guess the product owner somehow went over the QA team/process due to time/budget constraint.

I know, I know, ambitious ProductOwner rushing things to production against Dev & QA recommendations is something totally new and unheard of in Software development.

Let's hope they'll be able to fix everything as soon as possible!!

@pasco1990_xbl said in Submit Feedback Since SDS are not acting on this community:

@collin_sds_psn said in Submit Feedback Since SDS are not acting on this community:

The team is working on things. You can read about it here, https://theshow.com/road-to-the-show-feedback-improvements-repeat/

To be fair we just want RTTS back, Not even being able to progress in my RTTS Game is maddening and I have stopped playing. I shelled out 80$ for this game and can't even play the mode I want to because it can't even progress or get above an overall of 56 in RTTS for some reason.

This and the fact that we're stuck with the same player is frustrating. I mean, we can't have two different players and we can't start all-over...

The Loadouts Idea with cards is great for DD but for RTTS it sucks all the realism away... We know the goal is to have us play the monitized Diamond Dynasty, but seriously, if 2021 was a setting stone for future RTTS, SDS should get rid of the mode altogether. It is perfectly ruined as it is right now...

In every career, or career mode, decisions we make should impact our player. Now, it's just about collecting cards and changing our player style/attributes on the fly... what's the point of "following a career" if there's no attachment to the protagonist and everything can be changed by adding a card here and there?

@jmadds1991_psn said in RTTS List of Grievances:

And yes, I did make an account specifically to vent to SDS about a product that I am utterly disappointed in.

Totally agree with you.

Same here... I've been playing for 12 years and I never thought about joining the forum to complain... But this year version is so broken, I hope that all of this will convince SDS to bring back a real, reliable Career mode... Like it used to have.