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I placed a single quick sell from the web app yesterday and immediately got my access restricted. I submitted a ticket right away but haven’t heard anything back yet. I have been grinding a ton of high volume flips in the companion app. Then this morning the companion app issue started happening

Same issue for me.

@Wolfski0412_PSN I disagree. Previously bots were able to isolate on a few of the most profitable cards. Now they are competing on pretty much every card.

If it was ONE bot, your point about owning both sides may be correct. But there are many people running bots separately that are all competing with each other on many many cards.

The 20 card limit also benefits bots, because it makes flipping for a human much more tedious. You can no longer place 50+ buy or sell orders for a card or two and then check back in an hour or two. Instead you have to constantly be managing your 20 orders. Bots can do this no problem.

I absolutely agree that SDS should go after RMT but the 20 card limit is causing people to spread their stubs across many cards, instead of focusing one one or two, which is something a bot can handle a lot better than a human.

The reality is that any way to buy and sell cards outside of inside the actual game (web app and mobile app) will allow a certain number of bots in. They can play whack a mole, but the people running these bots can get a new account and continue selling stubs for money. The real solution in my opinion is allow humans to compete with bots as much as possible, which the 20 order limit does not facilitate in my opinion.

I don’t think the bots are any worse rhan previous years, but the 20 card limit makes them spread their bots across many many cards. In other years you would get annoyed by having to fight against constant undercuts and move to another card. Now there is no other cards, since bots are forced to work on so many cards.

I also think that there are a lot of “bots” that are just a few people (more than 1 other person) canceling and placing bids against one another. Who among us hasn’t been guilty of constantly underucutting someone else?

The 20 card limit was intentionally introduced to make flippers compete on many more cards instead of passively putting in 200 orders. It means all cards are much more competitive, driving margins down.

Gaming companies have been fighting bots and cheats for years and it’s rarely a battle they actually win. I want to see them remove the 20 card cap. If that happens, I’d be shocked if the complaints of bots don’t start to go away.

I am also worried that any changes to combat bots will make flipping much worse for the average person. In madden there are a ton of false bans for actual people flipping. I could also see them adding CAPTCHA to the app in an effort to fight “bots”. That would effectively kill all flipping.

Tin foil hat has me thinking they almost want the bots to run rampant so that they can “combat the bots” by absolutely destroying any chance of making profit in the market.