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Making Prestige online-only really irks me as well. Chipper's reveal in 19 made me stop playing the game. I understand making it quicker for an online player to gain things that offline players can gain, but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away. To those saying "it's free content, so I can't really complain", I'm glad someone bought the game for you, but I had to pay for mine, which means I'm paying for DD with my $60+ along with all the other content like Franchise and RTTS. Nothing is "free".

It seems like they're trying to push offline players to play online and this is the way they're trying to do it. However, what they don't realize is many offline players don't play online because they aren't as skilled and don't want to lose over and over trying to achieve a goal they'll never accomplish. I'm probably fairly average at the game and Chipper was an impossibility for me. Putting more content out of their reach puts them at an even larger disadvantage when they do try online modes. You aren't pushing those players into playing them more, you're pushing them away from your game.

@PennStateFencer said in 50 pack luck?:

KevinGohD posted a video the other day and he pulled Trout, Yelich, Acuna, and Betts. I think most of those came from his 50 pack bundle. I’ve never really been much of a pack guy and typically only open the free ones, but that seemed pretty lucky to me.

There's a lot of people that will say certain Youtuber's packs are juiced. I'm not saying that's true or not, but those videos sure do encourage people to open their wallets.

The concept of "play online or play another game mode", in a business sense, is idiotic. Diamond Dynasty is the only mode that is fresh ever year. Those "other modes" rarely get touched. As an owner of 19', why should I buy 20'? Is a roster update worth $60? So I can become "bros" with ballplayers in RTTS? Companies want to bring more players into their game modes, not push them away in groups. Especially when the devs push the idea that offline players can achieve everything that online players can achieve by "playing your way".

@omegaminus_sk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

@yankblan said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:

I mean, can’t you play a franchise using “add Legend to the FA pool” option?

It's not just about being able to play with the legends; a huge part of it (for me, at least) is the journey of building and improving my team by collecting cards, which I find much more interesting and entertaining than being a GM in Franchise.

Yes, I completely agree. The journey from a low overall to a high overall team, the build, is what attracts me to this mode as well as the completionist parts of my brain for getting cards. Then we have the online community, which gets their pleasure from that same mentality of collecting and building, but with competition added into it. Some of either group may not care about the card collecting, but I'm guessing those are the biggest reasons people play this mode.

The decision of focus that people are upset with, including myself, only limit one of these groups, and it just so happens to be the group with less of a reason to play the mode already.

I made a big deal in a separate thread about how the decisions they've made this year have hurt the offline DD players. This just adds on to that. The online players will still play each other even and the cream will still rise to the top, but the offline players and average or worse players are the ones that are going to take the brunt of this. Decision after decision is hurting those players and pushing them away.

It seems like input matters much more this year. So, if you're getting a decent amount of perfect/perfect's, you'll likely be getting a decent amount of homers. In years past that same input didn't matter too much.

I've gotten two gold players out of the 25-ish packs that I've opened since release. I personally won't be ripping any packs with stubs this year, but that's just me.

@Dolenz said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

@mucous052army said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

Offline XP has been reduced too. Meanwhile I can't get Eck because of the bugs

The bottom line for me is that If I can't get to 300 stars in the first inning, with the added points I will earn doing the full US map in conquest then I am probably done with the game.

It will remind me of '18 when after one month I realized that there was no chance I was even going to be able to earn 1 immortal so I simply quit.

They got your money already, they don't care. Now they can cater to all the online players who will keep paying for packs to try and get an advantage. Then, next year, they can talk about all the changes they've made so everyone will buy again and after a week they'll drop a patch to destroy it. Circle of life. Well, circle of yearly game entry life

@dbarmonstar said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

@Dolenz said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

@nflman2033 said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

@Dolenz said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

@mucous052army said in Number 1 WS Player Agrees, Patch was bad idea:

Offline XP has been reduced too. Meanwhile I can't get Eck because of the bugs

The bottom line for me is that If I can't get to 300 stars in the first inning, with the added points I will earn doing the full US map in conquest then I am probably done with the game.

It will remind me of '18 when after one month I realized that there was no chance I was even going to be able to earn 1 immortal so I simply quit.

For me I am going to get there just on sheer hours of game play, because I sucked at Showdown before the patch.

In what mode though? The problem for offline players, one that the online players do not really have to deal with, is that once we have completed the inning specific Conquest and Showdown (if you can finish it) and any player programs like the one for Granderson then there is nothing left to do but grind meaningless games for the sake of XP.

In Ranked Seasons, and even Events gamers are playing for a purpose, to improve their rank and earn better rewards. If you play offline all that is left is to play "vs CPU" games that have no point or re-running the US conquest map and earn another 10 pack of bronze and common cards.

I got two golds and Bregman out of that 10 pack, I was surprised this the only year I got good cards from that 10 pack. I got Yates from set 1 headliner pack, and Walker Buehler from set 2 headliner pack. I finished all the CQ maps, I finished Granderson, I am not going to waste 500 stubs to play showdown. MTO takes like 10 hours to do. Online is frustrating with two many errors and glitches. I am left to moments and grinding innings for Affinity. I did not play 16 until the end of the year. 17 was the best for pitching.

That's awesome. I've opened 90+ packs and gotten 8 golds and zero diamonds...

to make this type of decision with your game during a quarantine when all everyone has is time to complain about it? Not to mention the patch itself, but the decision to release it right now blows my mind.

Why? So next year they can say they've worked really hard on it, say that it's fine tuned and much better than this year. So, people will buy it and enjoy it for a few days before they push out a patch that does the same thing. Then the cycle continues.

I'm with ya TC. I honestly feel like the devs are trying to actively push offline players away from DD. Between what you've brought up and my complete lack of luck with opening packs I don't even play the game anymore. This has been a huge eye opener for me and won't be buying next year's edition. Not that it matters since they're opening the game up to Xbox and will have more money than they've ever had rolling in.

Haven't pulled one in around 120 standard packs and a few Headliners. Honestly, I probably won't pull any this year. Pack results and some changes have killed any drive I've had to play DD this year.