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@General_Heaux_PSN transactions on the console are downright miserable to conduct and Xbox users will be able to emulate to their cpu and continue to run bots. The market isnt cooked from bots on the 20 cap this year its been lucrative just fine but yes some cards are botted heavily i will agree. But smashing the entire market and going to what concept? Would love to hear this ...

@VOReason1976_XBL I feel that. I have been there too. I stepped away from my favorite game over significant issues and poor support

@VOReason1976_XBL they can by emulating it to pc via Xbox primarily. It only stops the actual people, cheaters always find a way. Just like using cronuszen to hit or pitch. Theres even ones that make it so even if you try you cant swing at balls, so maybe you arent hitting hard but you dont chase anything so never have to worry. The idea that being highly rated in a video game has some significant impact and glorious prestige behind it because a few streamers are successful is debilitating and unfortunately the world of gaming now. This action does nothing to fix the issue it only makes it less enjoyable to the true users. Its like putting a rubber patch on a dam and sayin yep there we go, no further action needed lol.

@VOReason1976_XBL I can't blame ya one bit bro I am sorry you're having that experience. There are options they have available but are so inundated with issues that actually people that enjoy the game get pushed. Hopefully they fix your situation for you soon

@VOReason1976_XBL I agree fully on that. I personally think they should have a process to have your ban lifted via a website and move forward. Like going into a spot, input info, put a description and it lifts immediately and if they want to investigate people with several claims then delve into those. I can tell you the bots arent filling out the form and even if they are they will be caught quickly by having multiple. But restricting people from listing cards in a certain time frame is just bogus

@VOReason1976_XBL exactly. Poor implementation is an SDS issue noy a marketplace issue. I think we are on the same page with enforcement and how to go about unlocking accounts. But restricting the app for actual users is completely counterproductive

@VOReason1976_XBL my friend got banned for flipping too. Another user that did nothing wrong but flip cards to subsidize the stubs for collections. But just because you got caught in a ban doesnt mean crush the market it means unban and fix the algorithm to find true non users

@JDHalfrack_PSN if you're unfamiliar then that's fine but they're never player cards. Its typically sounds, animations and bats that you know arent being sought after. So no SDS doesnt but other sites do and no you arent going to get massive margins on them because the bots just skip your bids. If you aren't aware of these options that's fine but I am pointing out those aren't impacting the general community in those instances.

@VOReason1976_XBL that's what I just said lets read to understand not read to respond. There are workarounds to that issue and while mistakes do happen they could be easily addressed with a system in place

@JDHalfrack_PSN you can think that all you want but once the easier path is gone the other path gets exploited. Unfortunately thats the society we have to work with. People use software to hit and win and get ratings so they can say how good they are even when not touching their controllers. Your argument is egregious and counterproductive for sales and growth of the game

@VOReason1976_XBL definitely doesnt. And does plenty of damage ... I can assure I will cease my annual purchases going forward because it will become impossible to achieve any semblance of a team

@VOReason1976_XBL and thats the marketplaces fault? No its the company with a flagged account that may be inaccurate. That's not a justifiable reason to eliminate it entirely, it should provide dialogue, development and advancement in metrics

@VOReason1976_XBL you can, it was poor action by SDS that bans actual users. There are blatant indicators that they aren't using. You unfortunately aren't the only one. But trying to remove the market entirely because theres a mistake is also missing the mark.

@JDHalfrack_PSN they already have safeguards in place but they take awhile to confirm because they don't want to ban users flipping. A great example is several sites indicate a list of "flip cards" that have large margins, are moving quickly but also appear as mules, knowing that info the algorithm can pinpoint accounts abusing those time and again with significant success and those will absolutely display as bots and remove those. They're capable especially with all the data being run on their own servers. If you think a company run marketplace with no input from users will make the game more viable then more power to you, but that ruins the experience for many

@VOReason1976_XBL it lacks depth and is not representative of a successful setup

@JDHalfrack_PSN they are hooking to bluestacks or something that emulates the app and if that changes theyll just run the console interface. Makes no difference. And if you think this is bad look at EA Sports games where 20 cards can be listed and you can buy the most expensive. Thats a perfect way to just transfer stubs to wherever. Eliminates the need for bots but doesnt eliminate the purpose. Still worse. You can outbid a bot, keep going up in 50 or 100s and itll stop bidding. Ive done it hundreds of times and yes it might be slightly more than you wanna pay but usually not more than 1-5k depending on the card. The app was fine without breaking it entirely for everyone actually using it

@JDHalfrack_PSN most aren't even running on the app they're on desktops just spamming. And eliminating it will lose player base for sure ... I'm sure thats not the goal of SDS. While yes there are bots theres still tons of stubs to be made this year and the 20 cap is working

@VOReason1976_XBL agreed so get rid of the Ludacris restrictions and continue to Crack down on bots. It didnt need changed to hurt the actual players just continue to police the bots out. There are ways to catch them and kick by using so man hours arent poured into it. But nerfing the app entirely I will just move onto other games, im good

The marketplace is fine just let it go, it will work itself out and policing bots is fine, that wont go away even if its console only, but drastically impacts those that use the app to assist in progression

@JDHalfrack_PSN yeah thats fine I can move on and play other games. I enjoy it and when slow at work I'm able to help my stubs by moving cards ... I would never be able to get collections because I don't have time in front of my console like that and I know several other people like that too.