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@savagesteve74_psn

Thanks... I just wish I had the time to go through 20,000 pack history listings in June... Not retired yet, close, but not yet.

@SavageSteve74_PSN said:

Just an FYI, because I’m done arguing with you over this, to get a true and accurate sample size, you’d need over 20,000 pack openings.

It should be doable. Just go to a few of the many exploiters and check their pack history. If you have the time that is...

very unlikely - 1 in 1355 - Not a statement on the OP's post. These are the actual odds. It is a very unlikely event. Happens 1 in 1355 times.

I also don't have a problem if they did. It would keep the cheaters from benefitting too much while also helping the market.

@JDHalfrack_PSN said:

@CoachPappy17_PSN said:

I have had consistent poor luck in June and am wondering if SDS toned down the pack odds to combat the glitch exploiters.

Please don’t do this. Unless the pack odds have been expressed as changed, they are not changed.

As I stated it was conjecture, not fact. There is no scientific theory without a hypothesis. I also don't have a problem if they did. It would keep the cheaters from benefitting too much while also helping the market.

https://forums.theshow.com/topic/81760/pack-odds-study/8

https://forums.theshow.com/topic/81760/pack-odds-study/8

Halfway through June Update

279 The Show packs opened in June, expected diamond pulled with 2% odds is 5.58 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 4. The odds of getting 4 or fewer diamonds is about 35.7%. Although lower than advertised odds. This results is within norms.

45 Ballin packs opened in June, expected diamond pulled with 6.7% odds is 3.02 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 1. The odds of getting 1 or fewer diamonds is 18.7%. Significantly lower than advertised odds. This results is uncommon, but not rare at 1.2 deviations below the mean.

Notes
My pack opening has slowed since I altered my grind strategy to running quests instead of mini-seasons. I also got lucky and pulled Ohtani from a Headliner pack which allowed me to finish the live series and the Cabrera collection.

I have had consistent poor luck in June and am wondering if SDS toned down the pack odds to combat the glitch exploiters. Hoping when all the "action" to punish those people have happened we may return to regular pack odds.

I don't mind, in fact I enjoy, programs, that require grinding... As an older player I don't like content that is intended for only the top skill level (or cheaters) since my reflexes aren't what they once used to be. I work a 10 hr a day job 5 days (occasionally 6), am an attentive father and husband, but I still have been able to complete the live series and the Carbrera collections through grinding (I did pull Ohtani 1 time).

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

@platewelder_363_MLBTS said:

Just played my first ranked game in several days. Didnt even last a full inning. I hardly play online at all anymore. Just seems like every game pitchers are dottin the corners all day long regardless of who’s on the mound.

I'm 100% convinced that you can thank the cheat pitching device for this. I think there are a TON of these in the game.

I agree. I just finished a game where every time I didn't swing my opponent's pitch release was perfect. Here I am playing with Classic mode because I am old and I get cramps in my hands. I pick a corner and the ball magically moves to the dead center of the strike zone, lol.

You have multiple games, correct? Doesn't have to be done in one game...

@GoozeFn_PSN said:

@CoachPappy17_PSN I actually think they deserve credit for making it a sellable reward.

@goozefn_psn
So they are making it even worse. This is rewarding the Cheat code players with stubs... They will set their codes to run all night and win multiple cards while they sleep. Wake up and sell them while we spend countless hours grinding away hoping to get a diamond that we can probably sell for 3K stubs...

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

@CoachPappy17_PSN said:

So on the heels of a Glitch Scandal and rampant cheating, SDS release an Extreme Showdown where the average player who doesn't use a cheat code will probably not be able to score 15 runs against HOF. I don't think those with the cheat code will have a problem. So here I am grinding away, not glitching, not cheating, one card away from the live series and 4 sets away from finishing the collections and SDS releases a card I will probably never own. Thank you SDS... much appreciated. Hope the cheat code gang has fun with him.

I have a theory but I'm not going to share it quite yet. Maybe next week. I am hoping SDS has ulterior motives here.

I actually have a hope along those lines as well.

So on the heels of a Glitch Scandal and rampant cheating, SDS release an Extreme Showdown where the average player who doesn't use a cheat code will probably not be able to score 15 runs against HOF. I don't think those with the cheat code will have a problem. So here I am grinding away, not glitching, not cheating, one card away from the live series and 4 sets away from finishing the collections and SDS releases a card I will probably never own. Thank you SDS... much appreciated. Hope the cheat code gang has fun with him.

May stats

716 The Show packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 2% odds is 14.3 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 13. The odds of getting 13 or fewer diamonds is about 41%. Slightly lower than advertised odds. This results is within norms.

122 Ballin packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 6.7% odds is 8.2 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 7. The odds of getting 7 or fewer diamonds is 45.09%. Slightly lower than advertised odds. This results is within norms.

Year to Date stats
371 Ballin packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 6.7% odds is 24.86 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 23. The odds of getting 23 or fewer diamonds is 38.9%. Slightly lower than odds advertised. This results is within norms.

2019 The Show packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 2% odds is 40 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 35. The odds of getting 35 or fewer diamonds is 21.88%. This result is lower than average, but not extreme.

Still planning on attempting a stub/pack study. This will take more time and will need to be completed while I am on vacation from my job. These results would not be without influence from Glitchers and Card flippers as their actions influence the market dramatically. I wish these people would understand that their actions fundamentally change our gameplay and enjoyment of this game. I read one card flipper who stated that he doesn't tell others how to play their game so they shouldn't tell him how to play the game. The flaw in that statement is that his gameplay forces others into playing the game that is changed because of him.

Update - April Stats in....

718 The Show packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 2% odds is 14-15 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 13. The odds of getting 13 or fewer diamonds is 40.77%. Slightly lower than advertised odds. This results is within norms.

157 Ballin packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 6.7% odds is 10.5 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 11. The odds of getting 11 or fewer diamonds is 61.5%. Slightly higher than advertised odds. This results is within norms.

Year to Date stats
249 Ballin packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 6.7% odds is 16.7 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 16. The odds of getting 16 or fewer diamonds is 47.7%. Slightly lower than odds advertised. This results is within norms.

1303 The Show packs opened, expected diamond pulled with 2% odds is 26 diamonds. Actual diamonds pulled was 22. The odds of getting 22 or fewer diamonds is 24.0%. This result is lower than average, but not extreme.

I am debating on expanding to find the expected stub gain from opening certain packs. I did a mini study with about 40 the show packs. The average stub gain per pack from those 40 packs was 333 stubs/pack. Well below the 1,500 stub cost of a pack.

@allday9128_PSN said:

@CoachPappy17_PSN said:

My opponent (censored) pauses the game and waits the entire time limit where I think I am getting a forfeit win.. no, there’s a forfeit all right, but he gets the win! WTH!!!!!!

Are you sure your opponent didnt let the timer run all the way down and then offer you a friendly quit, that you accepted without paying attenion because you thought it was a forefit?

Absolutely positive. I read the screen a few times before I exited

@Onix_Savage22_PSN said:

@CoachPappy17_PSN go back to game history click on the game report.

game history in game, or online. If its in game, I don't know where to find it. I can find it on the MLB the Show website for my team, but I can't find a link to report him.

@On_a_Power_Trip_PSN said:

you reported this person in game, right?

How?

Was just playing the event (I hate multiplayer!) due to the program attached to it. Won the first game (made me 1W 2L as I went 0-2 in the first attempt) got to the 2nd game and we went scoreless to the bottom of the third where I hit a dbl where my runner could have been called out at 2nd but wasn’t. My opponent (censored) pauses the game and waits the entire time limit where I think I am getting a forfeit win.. no, there’s a forfeit all right, but he gets the win! WTH!!!!!!