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    @go4stros25_PSN said:

    @D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS I agree with everything. One thing you said that I dont see talked about is the rank reset. Im a world series player, but just barely. What I mean is I have a tough time going from 770 to 800. When the new season comes out I dont even bother playing for the first week because I know im going to get matched with cheaters and players who are way better than me. The players who tops out at 600 dont have this problem, and the players who top out at 1200 dont have this problem. Its very punishing for players who are good, but not great (or cheating).

    Also, stealing is so bad, ive stolen bases on outlier pitch outs eith 90+ pop time and arm strength. Ive used p5 adley and I got the same amount of CS as when I use posads. Stealing is all rng. The only way you throw out the runner is if the gane decides to give the runner a bad jump. Were all familiar with the "stuck in mud" animation.

    And lastly, to beat the dead horse, paxks are absolutely terrible this year. They put out these premiere pack like they are somthing worth grinding for, and they are always base round. The deluxe packs are even worse. The real kick to the face is when you get a premiere pack and its a new threads so basically its barely worth 5k. Dont get me started on chase packs, ive opened so many of these, if I had to guess im around 60, and ive got the chase card twice. Every other time its an 85, not once has it been a 90+ LS diamond. That is clearly scripted.

    Sorry for typos.

    That is why I put that. It is a problem. Not one I have faced because even if I get to that level I don't stay because striking out 15 times is not fun when I can't see the ball.

    Not only does it solve the problem you mentioned about people not wanting to play for a week or two, it also would reward 1000+ rated players with a WS pack right out of the gate and solves the problem of people quitting so much. A win-win in my book. Again, these people are going to make 800 anyway. If 1000 rated players complain about this it would solely be because they don't get to beat up on 700 rated players.

    I'm not sure if they do this or not but pack odds should go up after say a few months. For instance, say a rare round WBC card is 1:50. After a few months it should drop to say 1:10 or so.

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    What are we complaining about today?

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

    Is this really even a true question?

    I mean all respect to the OP, but hundreds of customers have been giving SDS clear warning about the situation for years now, with all of it ignored. It was only ever a matter of time. The game has grown stale, and it isn't stale because of SDS failing to find some magic arcade theme to add to DD mode.

    It is stale because the graphics and gameplay has remained stagnant for years and this year according to many reports has actually reverted in MLB 26. When play outcomes are ruled in ways totally alien to the video presentation it robs customers of desire to play the game. This sort of thing only needs to happen a few times before the customer just concludes the game is junk and moves on from it.

    I'll add this more personal note. I explained to SDS two years back that customization of the game experience is the best way to retain customer interest in the game. Nothing promotes enthusiasm to play than customers seeing their own creations in the game environment.

    And of course MLB The Show has custom uniforms, logos, and stadiums as an option. SDS lost their way when they came to regard these three modes as unworthy of continual upgrades. They have also lost the message when they force customers to redo those customized options when a new release is made. Yes, if that is due to significant upgrades to the game, then customers can accept that as a reasonable tradeoff, but not when there are zero upgrades at all and the forced redo seems entirely malicious in nature.

    SDS is earning what they are experiencing. I seriously doubt anyone feels sorry for them. I certainly do not!

    You dont even go here.

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    @virusts_PSN said:

    I think the biggest problem with this years game is the lack of anything new and less stability in the game. Every year in the past they at least tried something new that impacted the game and feel a little fresh even if people didn’t like it.

    Like adding parallel system. Mini seasons one year. Weekend Classic. Seasons. Programs to BR snd Ranked. There’s probably other things I am missing. I’ve only played since 21.

    This year it felt like a FIFA release at the end of a system release. Copy and paste with roster update.

    This years changes? Red diamonds (cosmetic only), mods to cards, and bear down pitching, 7 game mini seasons. So really nothing new or fresh. And many of stuff they promised didn’t actually pan out at all. Correct stats in mini seasons or no shrinkage on outside sliders.

    I'll play devils advocate here on this one just for some debate. I can see it being really hard to come up with new things that impact the game and make it feel fresh. You also have to think with this being a yearly release putting new code it is likely very easy to mess things up. With the limited time (games take years to build), I'm not sure they can work everything from the ground up if that makes sense.

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    @x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN said:

    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

    Is this really even a true question?

    I mean all respect to the OP, but hundreds of customers have been giving SDS clear warning about the situation for years now, with all of it ignored. It was only ever a matter of time. The game has grown stale, and it isn't stale because of SDS failing to find some magic arcade theme to add to DD mode.

    It is stale because the graphics and gameplay has remained stagnant for years and this year according to many reports has actually reverted in MLB 26. When play outcomes are ruled in ways totally alien to the video presentation it robs customers of desire to play the game. This sort of thing only needs to happen a few times before the customer just concludes the game is junk and moves on from it.

    I'll add this more personal note. I explained to SDS two years back that customization of the game experience is the best way to retain customer interest in the game. Nothing promotes enthusiasm to play than customers seeing their own creations in the game environment.

    And of course MLB The Show has custom uniforms, logos, and stadiums as an option. SDS lost their way when they came to regard these three modes as unworthy of continual upgrades. They have also lost the message when they force customers to redo those customized options when a new release is made. Yes, if that is due to significant upgrades to the game, then customers can accept that as a reasonable tradeoff, but not when there are zero upgrades at all and the forced redo seems entirely malicious in nature.

    SDS is earning what they are experiencing. I seriously doubt anyone feels sorry for them. I certainly do not!

    You dont even go here.

    You’ve been asked to leave 37 times

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    @Apolloz_99_MLBTS I agree. Madden has alot more going on. In 1 moment of madden you may have 30 pre determined animation going off, this makes the problem multiply. Basically the more moving pieces the more likely somthing will go wrong.

    The show does have predetermined animation tho. Every error, every hit, every ground out, its all predetermined. User input matters for the most part, but an error, for example, is a forced predetermined animation.

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    SDS controls the timeline of their releases. Last I checked, there is no law anywhere in the world that requires SDS to release an MLB The Show title each year.

    The prime beef here is a lack of upgrades in graphics and gameplay standards to keep pace with the proven technological state of the industry. So, that doesn't require imagination, but just a will to hire the talent needed to maintain the game at the peak level of technology. And even if imagination is needed, truth remains that plenty of customers have handed SDS a roadmap on a silver platter, that the company has rejected.

    Finally, SDS controls the size of their payroll, so if they don't have the staff needed to keep the game at the pinnacle, then again that is a choice SDS made.

    I don't see much if any avenue to play devil's advocate to debate these points.

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    I've mentioned a ranked season where you can only use theme teams and can only use 1 each game until you have used all 30 teams.

    Piggybacking off @go4stros25_psn what about an MTO style mode where you can lock in your favorite player and play them for the entire season. For instance, say I want to play with Witt Jr. Have different rewards based on the level you play. This would need to be locked for the entire season. You get rewards based on different goals like hits, HR's, SB's, stolen bases, triples, errors, etc. The possibilities could be almost endless with this. You could also make it where you can have max of 3 and can use pitchers or hitters. Could do one with Judge and say Skubal (wins, era, saves for relievers). Point is you get to play a favorite player for the year and gain rewards on your journey.

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    @xRatedGProdigyx_PSN said:

    The awful fielder animations / lack of urgency also impacts stealing. Even if the throw beats the runner, there's no guarantee that the defender will apply the tag. This is very common on throws to third base.

    Last night playing coop (yeah we found a game in less than five minutes), pulled the perfect slidestep- catcher's throw beats him by 12 feet...safe. Chisolm took a fiscal year to apply the tag, he just stood there in the "catch" position, and didn't apply the tag until the runner was on top of the bag.

    @go4stros25_PSN said:

    Check swings are also very obviously rng. Some swings are clearly a swing but called a check and some check swings are clearly not a swing but get called a strike.

    Yeah, this is probably the one that drives me nuts the most. Bat will barely leave my shoulder, yet it'll say strike. Then others I'll already be setting the controller down because I'm certain I swung and it'll say no swing.

    Some consistency is all I'm asking for there.

    And don't even get started on the complete lack of fielder urgency. Vs CPU you can usually get away with it because more often than not they make bad choices on the basepaths. Online- completely different story. I'll knock a ball down on a dive...only to watch my field get up and take four steps away from the ball before turning around to pick it up.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

    SDS controls the timeline of their releases. Last I checked, there is no law anywhere in the world that requires SDS to release an MLB The Show title each year.

    The prime beef here is a lack of upgrades in graphics and gameplay standards to keep pace with the proven technological state of the industry. So, that doesn't require imagination, but just a will to hire the talent needed to maintain the game at the peak level of technology. And even if imagination is needed, truth remains that plenty of customers have handed SDS a roadmap on a silver platter, that the company has rejected.

    Finally, SDS controls the size of their payroll, so if they don't have the staff needed to keep the game at the pinnacle, then again that is a choice SDS made.

    Sony owns SDS and doubtless has huge say in the size of their payroll. Let's be honest this game is just a blip on Sony's spreadsheet. It's not a choice the employees at SDS made. I'm sure they would love more help to keep up with everything.
    And just because you provided them a "roadmap" of ideas doesn't mean a) that your ways are actually what people want, or b) that they have the resources to do them.
    You don't even play the freaking game, so please stop acting like you know better than everyone about what needs to be done.

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    @Finn_Scotus_MLBTS sony has made some really massive flops lately, mainly concord, marathon, and when they tried to milk the last of us more by making it an online game.

    When these companies lose money on games, that cost os pushed onto the customers.

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    @go4stros25_PSN said:

    @Finn_Scotus_MLBTS sony has made some really massive flops lately, mainly concord, marathon, and when they tried to milk the last of us more by making it an online game.

    When these companies lose money on games, that cost os pushed onto the customers.

    Oh, I agree completely. My point was just that Prior... saying SDS was in charge of their own budget and so it's all their fault was not necessarily true. Sony hamstrings them, and by default, us because of those failures you mentioned.

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    Different take than most will probably have, but I used to watch YouTube videos for this game daily, across multiple creators. I also checked into streams probably 1-2 times a week.

    I've mostly stopped. A lot of the CCs have turned into nonstop negativity machines, and the same tired toxic narrative gets pushed onto an audience that repeats it like gospel.

    To be clear, I'm saying "a lot," not all. There are still a handful of creators who are great. But I've unfollowed a bunch because I just don’t need that level of whining and negativity in my life.

    And even with the issues in the game right now, I'm still enjoying it as much as ever.

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    @Finn_Scotus_MLBTS said:

    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said:

    SDS controls the timeline of their releases. Last I checked, there is no law anywhere in the world that requires SDS to release an MLB The Show title each year.

    The prime beef here is a lack of upgrades in graphics and gameplay standards to keep pace with the proven technological state of the industry. So, that doesn't require imagination, but just a will to hire the talent needed to maintain the game at the peak level of technology. And even if imagination is needed, truth remains that plenty of customers have handed SDS a roadmap on a silver platter, that the company has rejected.

    Finally, SDS controls the size of their payroll, so if they don't have the staff needed to keep the game at the pinnacle, then again that is a choice SDS made.

    Sony owns SDS and doubtless has huge say in the size of their payroll. Let's be honest this game is just a blip on Sony's spreadsheet. It's not a choice the employees at SDS made. I'm sure they would love more help to keep up with everything.
    And just because you provided them a "roadmap" of ideas doesn't mean a) that your ways are actually what people want, or b) that they have the resources to do them.
    You don't even play the freaking game, so please stop acting like you know better than everyone about what needs to be done.

    I do play the game, just not MLB 26. Perhaps in your limited vision that means something. But, it doesn't!

    But, you go right ahead and lick their boots. I'm sure they enjoy laughing at you!

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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    Different take than most will probably have, but I used to watch YouTube videos for this game daily, across multiple creators. I also checked into streams probably 1-2 times a week.

    I've mostly stopped. A lot of the CCs have turned into nonstop negativity machines, and the same tired toxic narrative gets pushed onto an audience that repeats it like gospel.

    To be clear, I'm saying "a lot," not all. There are still a handful of creators who are great. But I've unfollowed a bunch because I just don’t need that level of whining and negativity in my life.

    And even with the issues in the game right now, I'm still enjoying it as much as ever.

    Totally agree with this. My experience has been pretty similar.

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    @Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

    Different take than most will probably have, but I used to watch YouTube videos for this game daily, across multiple creators. I also checked into streams probably 1-2 times a week.

    I've mostly stopped. A lot of the CCs have turned into nonstop negativity machines, and the same tired toxic narrative gets pushed onto an audience that repeats it like gospel.

    To be clear, I'm saying "a lot," not all. There are still a handful of creators who are great. But I've unfollowed a bunch because I just don’t need that level of whining and negativity in my life.

    And even with the issues in the game right now, I'm still enjoying it as much as ever.

    I actually had something similar to this typed up earlier and chose not to send it.

    I think the reason most people have stopped watching the streamers is not because the game is dying. It's because that sort of streaming is dying. No one wants to be involved in that atmosphere. It's why It sucks that these forums are starting to delve into that feeling.

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    @JDHalfrack_PSN said:
    I think the reason most people have stopped watching the streamers is not because the game is dying. It's because that sort of streaming is dying. No one wants to be involved in that atmosphere. It's why It sucks that these forums are starting to delve into that feeling.

    Yep. I was part of a bunch of Facebook groups as well. Things have always been a bit toxic.. but this year has been unbearable. I left all of them + started my own (but it's only got like 35 people).

    Been spending most of my energy here lately.

    & X is a joke now.

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    If anyone doesnt want to read all these comments. Ill sum it up for you all. The juice isnt worth the squeeze. Players are not getting rewarded enough for the grind. And I completely agree

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    @JDHalfrack_PSN you know it is possible that the content creators and the players are upset becsuse not only has the game not taken any step forward with next Gen tech, its infact gone backwards in many ways.

    The content creators didnt make the player base dislike the game. That makes no sense. Why would someone play a game, and waych creators play the game if they didnt like the game?

    Sds made people not like the game by always pushing for more monetization, not addressing glitches, poor servers year after year, rng gameplay, same graphics for a decade.. the list is long man.

    I do agree tho. Some streamers suck. That kyle kid is the most annoying person on YouTube. Even kevin has become hard to watch. Dimmu is still fun.

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    Whats funny is this thread was disingenuous (the guy posting it is one of the main complainers about the 20 card cap) but the responses are probably not what the OP had hoped for.

    Also, I can't speak for the show, but streaming communities are often the most toxic places on earth. If there is public dislike of a game just saying something positive about it gets you attacked.

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