Pack odds are manipulated.
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Opened the first 10 packs of my multiplayer 50 bundle last night and pulled a diamond. I guess they forgot to manipulate my odds!
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I have had bad luck when opening large amounts of packs at a time (talking about show packs) but when I open 5-10 I pull a diamond or two (low diamonds but still). Really weird
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@Ditka06-_MLBTS I’ve noticed the same thing since the cheating [censored]. Seems like they lowered pack odds to compensate for all the cards that were getting pulled from it. I’ve opened close to 2-250 show packs and no live series diamonds
I still will not buy the manipulation argument. Pack odds are posted on a website and there are watchdog groups and huge potential fines if they are caught.
If they made changes to the odds without changing the odds posted in the game and or on the website they would be opening themselves up to potential FTC action and fines.
The FTC has already treated misleading loot-box odds as a real enforcement issue. In 2025, the FTC announced a $20 million settlement with the maker of Genshin Impact, alleging among other things that players were deceived about the odds of winning sought-after loot-box prizes and the real cost of obtaining them. State attorneys general could also investigate under state unfair/deceptive acts laws.
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@BreezyPath41230_XBL before they manipulated the odds. Interesting. Makes you think! You pulled him out of a beginning game cycle bundle. Too funny.
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@Dolenz_PSN who are these so called watch dog groups? Show me them?. The only watch dog group is this forum post. These companies/big money corporations can do whatever they want. Believe that. Las vegas casinos have to answer to a gaming board, they still cheat the community. You can read up on that. Big money equals power, corruption in this country is just as real as in any 3rd world country. Dont ever get it twisted.
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@Bman3883_MLBTS unfortunately we cannot prove it. The nay sayers also cannot prove us wrong either. Its very possible we could be right. Its very possible we could be wrong. If i had to bet on it. Id bet that we are right.
I haven't had one in a while. I got the other japanese player from a chase pack, other than that nothing in standard pack for a long time. At least 100 packs. I finally got the LS done but had to sell a ton in the other collections so won't see Victor until he is irrelevant with 99's being out. After everything I sold I got Ohtani but only have like 30k stubs now. With my pulls it will take forever to get to 100k.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS the juice isnt worth the squeeze. For the amount of time we put in to get a 100 packs. Or whatever. Imagine spending money on this c r a p. Lmao
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I opened 77 additional packs finally two live series diamonds. Both quick sell of course.
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That’s the biggest issue. 99% of the diamonds pulled are quick sell low diamonds. That heavily skews the odds of pulling a worthwhile diamond. While 1:50 might be “technically” true the actual odds of pulling anything over quick sell is probably more like 1:500.
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That’s the biggest issue. 99% of the diamonds pulled are quick sell low diamonds.
Finally! Someone admits what you’ve all really been complaining about!
And, your estimate is surprisingly close. The odds of pulling a 90+ live series card right now is about 1:495.
Low. But not manipulated.
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That’s the biggest issue. 99% of the diamonds pulled are quick sell low diamonds.
Finally! Someone admits what you’ve all really been complaining about!
And, your estimate is surprisingly close. The odds of pulling a 90+ live series card right now is about 1:495.
Low. But not manipulated.
Unrewarding is the word you're looking for. Sums up this game perfect. It is by far the most unrewarding game I've ever played. 2nd most being 25 because they are going in the wrong direction.
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@Dolenz_PSN Coffee now adorns my desk, thank you for that. It was a great and cool noise though. Anybody else make makeshift ramps with random wood found lying around to launch aforementioned card-spoked bike off of?
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@Dolenz_PSN Coffee now adorns my desk, thank you for that. It was a great and cool noise though. Anybody else make makeshift ramps with random wood found lying around to launch aforementioned card-spoked bike off of?
Of course you could not grow up with a bike in the 70's and not pretend you were Evil Knievel
Also didn't we all have one of these? I did!
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@Dolenz_PSN Brother I'm an '87 born, and even I had one of those. I really feel like, and this is according to my older cousins as well, the 70's through the 90's were an AWESOME time to grow up.
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Far as I'm concerned, putting baseball cards on bike spokes for "engine" noise was the most useful purpose they ever provided! Paper with a photo on it. That's what they are. When baseball cards started to become big business, I knew society had truly lost its way in terms of affixing value.
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Agree. Haven’t you heard millennials had the best time to be kids and the worst time to be adults. Being a very early millennial myself I absolutely agree that my childhood was great and adult life not so much given the state of the world and economy.
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That’s the biggest issue. 99% of the diamonds pulled are quick sell low diamonds.
Finally! Someone admits what you’ve all really been complaining about!
And, your estimate is surprisingly close. The odds of pulling a 90+ live series card right now is about 1:495.
Low. But not manipulated.
Back to the topic at hand
Yep. these have been posted before but here they are again. Everybody knows, or should know that the odds get lower as the OVR gets higher.
| OVR | Card Count | Per-Card Odds | Cumulative Odds for OVR | Approx. Odds | | ---------------------: | ---------: | ------------: | ----------------------: | -----------: | | 85 | 15 | 0.042% | 0.630% | 1 in 159 | | 86 | 10 | 0.050% | 0.500% | 1 in 200 | | 87 | 5 | 0.025% | 0.125% | 1 in 800 | | 88 | 3 | 0.031% | 0.093% | 1 in 1,075 | | 89 | 4 | 0.024% | 0.096% | 1 in 1,042 | | 90 | 6 | 0.025% | 0.150% | 1 in 667 | | 91 | 3 | 0.012% | 0.036% | 1 in 2,778 | | 93 | 1 | 0.008% | 0.008% | 1 in 12,500 | | 95 | 1 | 0.008% | 0.008% | 1 in 12,500 | | **Total Live Diamond** | **48** | — | **1.646%** | **1 in 61** | -
Unrewarding is the word you're looking for. Sums up this game perfect. It is by far the most unrewarding game I've ever played. 2nd most being 25 because they are going in the wrong direction.
This is so full of hyperbole it doesn’t even really warrant a response. But I will anyway.
I know everyone likes to sh|t all over this game, but it is easily still the most rewarding game of any that have all this collection junk. You receive more free cards from The Show than any of the others. It is by far the easiest to complete collections without spending money than any of the others.
It may be harder today than it was 5 years ago, but it was almost comically easy. The cycle ebbs and flows. Back in 18 I think it was impossible to get all the cards unless you literally played like 23 hours a day (hyperbole alert here, too).
This is the 4th year out of the last 5 I have completed the LS before the end of June. I spend ZERO money on the game. I just open a lot of packs. A lot of FREE packs.
The game may feel unrewarding, but it’s extremely rewarding. Tedious at times… maybe even boring… but it’s definitely rewarding.
So no, the word I was looking for was low. Not manipulated. Not unrewarding. Nothing else.
And even then, I’d argue “low” is relative. You have a better chance at getting a 90+ live series than you do of getting struck by lightning. So, there’s some positivity for you!
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@JDHalfrack_PSN this game is more rewarding than madden, but maddens packs are better.
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I will say, opening packs is not rewarding. Last year, the entire 2025 season I somehow never pulled a live series diamond higher than 15K in value. I was convinced they blacklisted my account for flipping too much.
This year I started off super strong with a Judge pull, a few Sotos and some others. Lately I haven’t been pulling much though. I think 4 total diamonds since the glitch exploiters ruined the game, but 2 of them were good (Skubal and I think JRam). But far under 1:50 as of late. And come to think of it, pretty sure those good pulls were from Ballin’ packs.
