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Well, it happened, exactly as we warned you SDS!

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Stadium Creator and Uniforms
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  • PriorFir4383355_XBLP Offline
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    The online custom stadium cheating has now unloaded and the vault is flooded with stadiums that placed wall sections all throughout the field of play, precisely as we dedicated and honest stadium designers warned you privately three months ago.

    We handed you the roadmap to keep this from happening, and begged you to implement that solution soonest while custom stadiums were removed from online play due to the head-to-head bug issue.

    But, SDS, you chose to do it your own way and that way did not prevent the malicious abuse of custom stadiums. If you had listened to the community, and implemented the strategy we urged, then this abuse would not be happening.

    @SDS_JoeK_PSN

    Joe, when is SDS going to actually start listening to us? I don't mean pay boiler plate lip service to, but actually listen and treat us like intelligent adults who only want what is best for this game we have paid for?

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  • JBESTJR24_XBLJ Offline
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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL you should know by now that them actually listening to us will never happen. We all know they only care about one mode and that is diamond dynasty.

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    I won't go quite that far, but SDS is validating your comments overall. Their community manager hasn't made an appearance in this entire sub-forum in over a month and odds are he won't ever again. It isn't because we misled him, or lied to him, or expected him to snap his fingers and order policy changes within SDS. But, he did say that people at SDS were working the issues we were discussing with him, though what the results of that were was nothing effective and the support for Stadium Creator this year has been less than nothing.

    That means, taking away something we wanted for five years without actually taking it away, but in a slipshod manner that left the door open to cheats to abuse it -- as if that abuse was their politically motivated intent the whole time.

    If all that isn't malice, I'd like to know what is!

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    I hope they don’t turn off created stadiums in ranked because of this. That stadium is bs but I just like playing in my little cove beach I made.

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  • Sarge1387_PSNS Online
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    @SDS_JoeK_PSN This is what needs to be done with Stadium Creator. Your reading glasses and listening ears on. We all warned you this nonsense would happen.

    #1- Allow some creativity with the walls in order to keep it online eligible. What I mean by this is allowing creators to shape the fence any which way they like, provided it stays within a set of parameters to remain DD eligible By this I mean nothing shorter than 318 down the lines, and 395 in center. When it comes to wall height...nothing shorter than 6 feet.

    #1.2- Give us TEMPLATE LAYOUTS For foul ground, which could be your minor league stadium layouts(like Shippet, Franco, Main Street etc, as they're created FOR your game, there would be no licensing issue), and yes this would INCLUDE bullpen placements. This way you're not letting us have 100% control over the foul ground and bullpen placement (which still baffles me that SDS constantly fights this), but give us the option for field layouts other than jewelbox.

    Those two points right there would give the creators freedom they desperately crave to make proper stadiums , while maintaining the strict regulations that SDS has a kink for in order to maintain online eligibility. This isn't QoL improvement, that's treatment needed to breathe life back into it.

    Then we get into the basic, basic QoL stuff:

    -Stop over-modelling props like the batter's eyes that creates ugly unfillable space.

    -With the above mentioned tweak to the walls, STOP OVER MODELLING THE WALLS...once again it kinda renders even your own wall designs moot because of the ugly unfillable space.

    -Backstop shapes

    -Seats that actually fit the curvature of the walls.

    -Applying the ground trim logic to the wall. Make the wall the hard trim point, which would not only help make cleaner lines, but opens up the possibility of seating angles/sightlines that are not just rounded. You can also apply that trim logic to the seating pieces themselves for when they interact so as not to create a section of John Carpenter's "Things" when you merge seating...simply make the incumbent piece the trim point.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL
    They just don't give a iths (I had to reverse the word so I wouldn't get censored). This is SDS, who I can honestly say challenges EA in terms of who's more [censored]

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    Sarge,

    There is a misconception working regarding stadium copyright. Nothing in the basic engineering of a stadium is copyrighted in any way, shape or form. What is copyrighted are items like wordmarks, trademarks, etc ....

    Stadium engineering elements can be protected by patents, and would thereby require a construction firm to perhaps pay the royalty due to use patented engineering fabrications, design elements, etc ...

    However, since the stadiums in MLB The Show and Stadium Creator are virtual works, none of those patented elements are applicable, because it isn't the appearance of the process that is patented, but the physical engineering element itself.

    For example, this is why companies can create flight simulators that feature aircraft made by companies like Boeing, Airbus, Cessna, or Piper. If the wordmarks are not used there isn't even a copyright issue and nothing about the engineering patents of the aircraft would apply.

    SDS can absolutely replicate the basic stadium layout of any currently used MLB ballpark without the slightest concerns over violations of copyright nor of engineering patents.

    Cheers!

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL

    Makes sense. And while we're on non licensing issues...I decided to hop into RTTS last night, and my god some of those props should 100% be moved into the creator. Even some of the seating props look interesting. The eye, for example, in the CWS needs to be in the creator, that one in particular has great potential

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    Glad I don't play online.

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    @sullivanspring_MLBTS said in Well, it happened, exactly as we warned you SDS!:

    Glad I don't play online.

    Yep, this, plus also other reasons, is why I refuse to play online games. While still a minority of the group, the number of people who play online games who are also hackers, spammers, cheats, and amoral is skewed more concentrated than in everyday life. Online gaming offers the anonymity that allows people of low repute to gain access to the outside world.

    In the traditional world, when you play a pickup game, you cannot hide behind an alias. If you hit the shot, everyone sees you hit the shot. If you struck out the batter, everyone sees that. If you get upset that someone on the court is lighting you up and you choose to put a hard foul on that sharpshooter, then everyone sees that you did it. You cannot hide. This is how sports reveals the soul of people and teaches good values and reinforces true excellence.

    But, in the online games, nefarious people can craft stupid stadiums that only seek to exploit anger and frustration, to encourage people to quit fraudulent games and by that the cheater gets cheap wins. What boggles my mind is how these virtual trinkets can become so important to people that they are willing to cheat to get them.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Well, it happened, exactly as we warned you SDS!:

    hackers, spammers, cheats

    Exactly. Look at the state CoD is in...you can't even play a single round of TDM without running into at least one hacker/cheater.

    I've always maintained that these people are either so desperate for recognition that they do this to be a "top player", or they're just so miserable with their own existence that they need to make everyone else just as much so.

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    Sarge,

    I hate to say this, brother, but I have no clue what CoD and TDM mean in the context you are talking about! That's how unfamiliar with DD online play I truly am! LOL!!

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