Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums
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@sbchamps17_NSW said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
I don't feel like those stadiums need to be nerfed. What's wrong with having max elevation stadiums in the game
There is nothing wrong but if you do not see the difference between Coors and e.g. Shield Woods, then you either do not play the game enough or you do not see any problems with constant poor hits leaving the stadium… Both could be fine for you tho
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I was 56-3 and just got capital Lange and then shield woods... I just quit out. I think I'm gonna do that next year too and to hell with the record. I'm not gonna spend 50 mins of my life playing at this arcade game stadiums
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@sbchamps17_NSW, there’s nothing wrong with a high elevation park, so long as it's designed like a high elevation park.
They’re typically quite large, like Coors or the fictitious Laughing Mountain (thus, pretty realistic). Even the highest real minor league park (Security Service Field in Colorado Springs at 6,500 ft) is 350 down the lines… and they all typically use humidors for ball storage to combat the effects of high altitude.
The whole point of doing that is to prevent the game from playing too differently in high altitude places; pains are taken in real life to prevent cheap home runs because too many would skew statistics and change the way the game is played… allowing that—actually inviting that—in a baseball simulation is nonsensical. There are no high elevation band boxes for a reason.
Save those parks for people who want to play moonshot events. They don’t belong in Ranked.
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@YOSHI24_XBL I understand your point. You want to take away the choices you don’t like entirely. How is that different? I’ll just never understand this mentality. Getting rid of things some people like because others don’t like it is bad for the game. With the amount of times I’ve played online at these parks you don’t like, I’d say you’re in the minority here.
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@GoozeFn_PSN First of all: Way to debate, you do not have to get personal. Your assumption in sentence 2 is wrong. This thread is called … „ … nerf …“ not „… ban …“
SDS often talks about things that make their game play more realistic … more like a baseball sim (rewatch the last feature premiere if you like) … If that is their goal, my personal feedback is directly pointed at that.
My feedback is pointed at the game that does not play like it is intended to and I presented stats to prove it (nobody puts up 6 HR on average in any ballpark).And I do not get why they nerfed shippet in 22… just to put in way more bad stadiums.
The solution (at least in my mind) is either nerf those stadiums or create specific fun modes for arcade baseball … -
@GoozeFn_PSN said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
... You want to take away the choices you don’t like entirely. How is that different? I’ll just never understand this mentality. Getting rid of things some people like because others don’t like it is bad for the game.
Hmm... I think this is a bit disingenuous. You seem like a reasonable guy, but that's not.
A lot of people like terrible things, and the fact that people like something is no reason to hold it sacrosanct when it serves a purpose antithetical to the stated mission. I bet people liked being able to stock their infield with poorly rated defenders with monstrous power and pay no defensive price because the fielding animations let them get to most balls anyway... that was just taken away in the name of realism. I bet people liked and benefited from longer pause timers, but that was often abused and it was taken away because some viewed it as a QOL issue.
My point is that some things actually have an effect on the game or the people playing the game, and there's nothing wrong with the mentality of those who think things like that should be considered for change or be taken away because it will improve gameplay overall. Shitbird little parks on mountain tops affect game play and move it away from the stated purpose of this game; they allow one player to decide that the other is going to enter a pop fly hitting contest instead of playing a baseball game with some semblance of realism.
This isn't like wanting to take away Timing in online play, nor is it about removing OOP cards that changed nothing because some people don't like those things despite not being affected in any measurable way. Those parks have a measurable effect, and it's a stupid one.
Shield Woods is actually a pretty park, and it would be fine if it was at sea level, but as those parks are, they're no better than Costco, and those things shouldn't be in the 9-inning competitive mode. Let them exist in single player, or events, or wherever else people go to boost their stats and cut corners to advance player progression.
Realism in ranked shouldn't suffer because some people like dumb things.
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@YOSHI24_XBL Not sure what you mean by making it personal. I did misrepresent what you were saying though. Nerfing isn’t the same thing as getting rid of it. I just think people should be able to choose whatever park they want. I don’t like other people dictating my choices. These are the same type of complaints that got CAPs removed from DD because people are soft.
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@The_Joneser_PSN It’s a level playing field. Both people are playing on the same field.
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@GoozeFn_PSN, that's the problem.
In seriousness, the other things I mentioned were also equally applied. Doesn't mean they should have been allowed to stay.
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@YOSHI24_XBL said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
If MLB The Show wants to be a game resembling the real game just a tiny bit … there has to be action taken. I understand it is a videogame and it is about „having fun“
I ... don't think you do understand. People aren't paying $70-100 bucks just to hit a routine fly to right.
Besides, nonstop Home Run Derby is more realistic than you think.
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@SaveFarris_PSN Yes, but no
… It is not realistic. In 2024 for the whole MLB there were 1,23 HR per Game. Coors hat a 7 percent higher average than that. Even I can top those numbers playing at Shield easily. And I do not think that MLB the Show should play like MLB the Homerun Simulator. I get that you like it but that does not mean that I have to like it too … And I do not have to like the fact (try and look it up in the ingame stats department) that Homeruns are hit at an absurd level …. and the main reason are those disgraceful stadiums@GoozeFn_PSN That logic is crazy. I have to accept a broken system because it levels out? Last question: Is feedback only okay if it matches your opinion? Feedback also does not level out
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@GoozeFn_PSN said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
@YOSHI24_XBL Not sure what you mean by making it personal.
@GoozeFn_PSN said in Please nerf these disgraceful stadiums:
@YOSHI24_XBL How about just stop being a baby …
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@SaveFarris_PSN, even with the increased frequency with which home runs are hit now in MLB, they still accounted for only 13.7% of all hits in the 2024 regular season. In MLB The Show 24, home runs accounted for 33.1% of all hits. Sometimes having fun turns into a problem.
And no one pays $70-100 bucks for the thrill of watching a can of corn floating along at 84mph scrape a wall on the way down.
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Last post: I think I made my point, maybe my feedback is read, maybe not.
My wish is still up and as we know: Wishes sometimes come true . I am still looking forward for the new game with some nice improvements … -
@YOSHI24_XBL It’s not a broken system. That’s your wrong opinion.
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@YOSHI24_XBL OK, I stand by that comment.
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If rumors on twitter by the people who played the game last week are true, max elevation will be capped at 3K (they were not sure about Coors) … That would be huge news for realistic gameplay (and me
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Max elevation stadiums are for dudes who revel in the artificially inflated home run distances that make them feel like they've accomplished something. I would much rather hit a 500-foot home run in a stadium that doesn't have max elevation, now that's an accomplishment. It would be nice to have some filter where you can filter out what stadiums you don't want to play in online matches. If I wanted to play home run derby, I would just enter that game mode.
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@JCRated1982_XBL One night after this awesome TA stream … I really hope that this 3K-cap is true … I do not care, if that NL stadium with the short porch is in there. There was no problem imo with dimensions, but high elevation in custom stadiums
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I wonder if the Lichtenstein park is getting nerfed too. I assume not since its ms only but man that place is absurd to hit in.
No need to nerf either Coors or Laughing Mountain though, they both play fine and are what a change of pace should be.
The other two are trash though.
