So with the announcement today
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In a move that was so highly requested yet entirely unexpected from SDS...they listened and got rid of sets and seasons...so does this mean that that maybe...just maybe they might be open to the updating and upgrading of the Stadium Creator?
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Wtf does one have to do with the other?
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@Easy_Duhz_It__PSN said in So with the announcement today:
Wtf does one have to do with the other?
That maybe they're finally starting to listen to the player base...and there might be hope that some of the suggestions made here for the last three years have been listened to as well?
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My guess is that they saw some major falloff with player engagement throughout the year, enough to worry them and get them to abandon sets and seasons. That probably had more to do with it than the surveys.
I would not get my hopes up for Stadium Creator. You might see some small changes but don't expect an overhaul. Stadium Creator itself does not sell many copies of the game nor do they have any way to monetize it (yet)
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@Dolenz_PSN said in So with the announcement today:
My guess is that they saw some major falloff with player engagement throughout the year, enough to worry them and get them to abandon sets and seasons. That probably had more to do with it than the surveys.
I would not get my hopes up for Stadium Creator. You might see some small changes but don't expect an overhaul. Stadium Creator itself does not sell many copies of the game nor do they have any way to monetize it (yet)
Honestly, as long as the changes mean we can tinker with foul territory, move the bullpens ourselves, and limit the amount of dead zone(when we have funky fence deigns)...it'll be a W
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If SDS is smart they will stop focusing their prime attention on DD and realize there are more people who play the other modes. The offline modes carried this title for over 20 years and it carries it today. Stadium Creator is one of the modes where a relatively small number of people impact the game through their works being in the personal play collections of millions of MLB The Show customers.
Believe me, a robust new version of SC would revitalize interest in this title like no other single change. People will flock to play this title if they start seeing highly realistic versions of historic stadiums, as well as original concepts that energize creativity and excitement.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in So with the announcement today:
there are more people who play the other modes.
Can you provide actual data for this or are you just talking out your [censored]? Online is where their money comes from. There are people that spend thousands on stubs every year...and i think thats more important to SDS than you playing RTTS for 16 seasons or creating a stadium for offline play .
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in So with the announcement today:
If SDS is smart they will stop focusing their prime attention on DD and realize there are more people who play the other modes. The offline modes carried this title for over 20 years and it carries it today. Stadium Creator is one of the modes where a relatively small number of people impact the game through their works being in the personal play collections of millions of MLB The Show customers.
Believe me, a robust new version of SC would revitalize interest in this title like no other single change. People will flock to play this title if they start seeing highly realistic versions of historic stadiums, as well as original concepts that energize creativity and excitement.
Wow there are a lot of assumptions in that post.
SDS has not released the numbers for games played in each mode in many, many years. So saying that there are more people who play the other modes is a guess or projection on your part. None of us know for sure.
A Robust Stadium creator would make a bigger difference than any other change? More than more legends in the game? More than a robust story mode in RTTS. I don't think so. I mean did MLB The Show see a big boost when the stadium creator was first rolled out? I don't remember it that way.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in So with the announcement today:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in So with the announcement today:
If SDS is smart they will stop focusing their prime attention on DD and realize there are more people who play the other modes. The offline modes carried this title for over 20 years and it carries it today. Stadium Creator is one of the modes where a relatively small number of people impact the game through their works being in the personal play collections of millions of MLB The Show customers.
Believe me, a robust new version of SC would revitalize interest in this title like no other single change. People will flock to play this title if they start seeing highly realistic versions of historic stadiums, as well as original concepts that energize creativity and excitement.
Wow there are a lot of assumptions in that post.
SDS has not released the numbers for games played in each mode in many, many years. So saying that there are more people who play the other modes is a guess or projection on your part. None of us know for sure.
A Robust Stadium creator would make a bigger difference than any other change? More than more legends in the game? More than a robust story mode in RTTS. I don't think so. I mean did MLB The Show see a big boost when the stadium creator was first rolled out? I don't remember it that way.
I do share your curiosity for the numbers, but I also wouldn't discount the sheer volume of offline players either, stadium creator was one of the most sought after things in this series for years. I think a well rounded and robust upgrade to the SC suite would go a long way for the offline crew, as well as the guys like me who enjoy playing games vs CPU in DD in my custom stadiums (I don't made the cheap tiny softball fields, I try to keep it realistic)
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in So with the announcement today:
If SDS is smart they will stop focusing their prime attention on DD and realize there are more people who play the other modes. The offline modes carried this title for over 20 years and it carries it today. Stadium Creator is one of the modes where a relatively small number of people impact the game through their works being in the personal play collections of millions of MLB The Show customers.
Believe me, a robust new version of SC would revitalize interest in this title like no other single change. People will flock to play this title if they start seeing highly realistic versions of historic stadiums, as well as original concepts that energize creativity and excitement.
I'm just gonna give a sample. Not saying it's the case for everyone cause I know it's not BUT I know a large part of the payerbase is like me.
If they don't improve or put focus on online head to head play id never play this game. Id NEVER play offline modes and never have since the PS3.I would never own this game if it was offline only. There is literally no possible way SDS makes more money from offline players. Offline players likely don't put more money into the game for cards as their focus is "paid $80 upfront and going no money spent". You have ZERO competition and there's ZERO rush or desire to spend money on stubs. Offline does nothing to invest into the game like online will.
Offline may have been what carried the game or what it was originally. But so was Call of Duty. So was Grand Turismo. So was every other game before high speed internet. This isn't Skyrim or Elden Ring, homie. In fact, baseball is literally competition against other players. So naturally competition against REAL people is more appealing.
They need to cater to the online crowd more. Sports games offline are nothing compared to a fantasy game offline.
That's great offline can be enjoyed and I'm happy for you if you do enjoy it. But id never play this game offline again. And I'm not the only one like this. -
@Easy_Duhz_It__PSN said in So with the announcement today:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in So with the announcement today:
there are more people who play the other modes.
Can you provide actual data for this or are you just talking out your [censored]? Online is where their money comes from. There are people that spend thousands on stubs every year...and i think thats more important to SDS than you playing RTTS for 16 seasons or creating a stadium for offline play .
The most logical post you have ever made.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in So with the announcement today:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in So with the announcement today:
If SDS is smart they will stop focusing their prime attention on DD and realize there are more people who play the other modes. The offline modes carried this title for over 20 years and it carries it today. Stadium Creator is one of the modes where a relatively small number of people impact the game through their works being in the personal play collections of millions of MLB The Show customers.
Believe me, a robust new version of SC would revitalize interest in this title like no other single change. People will flock to play this title if they start seeing highly realistic versions of historic stadiums, as well as original concepts that energize creativity and excitement.
Wow there are a lot of assumptions in that post.
SDS has not released the numbers for games played in each mode in many, many years. So saying that there are more people who play the other modes is a guess or projection on your part. None of us know for sure.
A Robust Stadium creator would make a bigger difference than any other change? More than more legends in the game? More than a robust story mode in RTTS. I don't think so. I mean did MLB The Show see a big boost when the stadium creator was first rolled out? I don't remember it that way.
Can't go by when SC was introduced because the systems weren't widely available yet and scalpers had a lot of the ones that were.
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I repeat, based on the extremely large numbers of vault downloads of stadiums, yes, a significant improvement in SC that would allow the relatively few honest stadium designers who exist to create more realistic historic, modern and future stadiums, would impact the game more than any other single addition or update. Again, the stadiums are the biggest part of the game's play background. It ranks right up with other basics like player animations, ball, pitch, and hitting physics, and basic game play engineering.
No other single mode of this game has such a tremendous impact on the vault. Stadiums exceed the vault use for logos by a huge amount. That's despite the current reality that the stadiums one can create in SC are quite limited in their options. Those are not opinion statements but verified by the numbers.
I firmly believe that if SC would allow designers the legitimate options to amend the backstop, baseline, and outfield walls in ways that allow replication of any stadium from the turn of the 19th century to modern day, and we get the sought after changes in how props interact with each other as well as the walls, and we can then replicate same.
You start seeing very faithful stadiums from historic eras and that alone will increase game appeal. If the DD community would stop demanding that SDS rein in stadiums that are considered "cheating options" or simply agree that no custom stadiums be used in online competition modes, then the rules barring our creative options would be removed. That would unleash a creative avenue that over short time would introduce a wow factor with the stadiums this designer community could create.
