Why do the Season Award Program?
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@Easy_Duhz_It_ said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
Why do the season award program?
A. Because its content and thats what most of us look for when playing the game.
B. Because the lower tier cards now are used for collections and getting higher tier cards later on.
C. Both A and B.
All the above, I have no problems with this game. It's still fun to play and I definitely enjoy doing mini seasons and the nation of baseball conquest map on repeat
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@Easy_Duhz_It_ said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
Why do the season award program?
A. Because its content and thats what most of us look for when playing the game.
B. Because the lower tier cards now are used for collections and getting higher tier cards later on.
C. Both A and B.
Of course I still did the program. It took 20 minutes. That's not the actual reason for creating this thread.
I created it to show how disappointed I am with how bad SDS waters down these cards.
I like Witt, I'd like to use Witt. I want Witt to be that guy for my WS run.
I'm merely pointing out things other ppl may not see. Then I get bashed for it?
Once again, Witt is a 95 overall rated card with 88 overall rated stats. If ya'll are content and fine with that, then by all means slot him in your lineup.
Foe me, it's disappointing bc as a 95 overall card, it sucks. 60's vision and 84 clutch is just bad at a competitive level. If u use this card at 700+ then I respect that!
I won't be using him simply bc his card is not good enough.
I'd rather use Cpt Dansby, Willie Castro, Rich Aurillia, Trevor Story, Ernie Banks, and Corey Seager.
I would much rather see Witt as a top ss option, but he just isn't. -
Then why say anything about the program to begin with if you were just gonna do it anyway, if you don't like the way the game is this year then don't play and certainly don't complain about everything little thing on it
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@sbchamps17 said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
Then why say anything about the program to begin with if you were just gonna do it anyway, if you don't like the way the game is this year then don't play and certainly don't complain about everything little thing on it
I consistently see this "then dont play" bs comment. The OP, while I may not agree with, is stating something that he wants SDS to read because he want to play the game, but he wants it to improve. SDS does not want anyone with a complaint to just play something else either. Stop with this BS response that seems logical only to the ignorant. I also do not like the way the game is this year. I am still going to play it and complain about whatever about it I do not like so that the game improves. Deal with it.
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@sbchamps17 said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
Then why say anything about the program to begin with if you were just gonna do it anyway, if you don't like the way the game is this year then don't play and certainly don't complain about everything little thing on it
Why do people post on these forums at all? To be heard and get feedback from the community.
It seems most of you don't agree with how disappointing Witt's 95 lightning card is. And you know what? That's fine. You're entitled to your own opinion. Most of those who disagree are offline gamers who have a hard time against the CPU on allstar. These gamers don't understand what meta and top tier means simply bc they don't play competitively online. Which is also fine.
If I sucked and only played on rookie/veteran against the cpu, I probably would react the same way as many of u.I wouldn't understand my own argument, and I'd probably tell myself to go play another game, don't do the program, don't use Witt, and go kick rocks.
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@Shauwn said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
I'd rather use Cpt Dansby, Willie Castro, Rich Aurillia, Trevor Story, Ernie Banks, and Corey Seager.
I would much rather see Witt as a top ss option, but he just isn't.You are not, in all of those cases, comparing apples to apples.
Comparing a card with a boost to a card without a boost is not a fair comparison. As for those players with 90+ cards that you would prefer that is perfectly acceptable.
But let's also not overlook the fact that not everyone has all of those cards to choose from.
- Rich Aurilia requires 120 Season 1 cards to be collected.
- Ernie Banks was a Ranked Season reward that is roughly 25K on the market
- Corey Seager is a live series 90 overall card that costs roughly 90K on the market
- Captain Dansby requires you to use one of your (currently) limited captain choices on him.
- Willie Castro was a Battle Royale reward and requires the Buxton Boost to be comparable
- Trevor Story requires 535K of XP on the reward path
I think it is safe to say that your average player has, at best, only 1 or 2 of those choices. Or if they are like me they have none of those cards yet. For most of us Witt Jr is the best shortstop that is easily attainable for us simply by committing a little time to the weekly drops programs.
Your theory that every lightning card should be the clear winner when comparing shortstops is the surefire way to have no lineup diversity, where every team you face will have Witt Jr at SS.
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@Vipersneak Wrong…This forum is for posting if you have a question or need help on how to improve, ect…SDS devs have repeatedly said if you see a glitch or have a suggestion to submit a ticket. They do not sit on their phones saying “Oh no, Gamertagxyz said he hates the program! Let’s pull it offline & rebuild it!”
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How does a Captain Card (Dansby) compare to a Lightning card?
If you use Dansby, without any other Cubs cards, are his stats actually better the the Witt Lightning?
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@x814xmafia said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
How does a Captain Card (Dansby) compare to a Lightning card?
If you use Dansby, without any other Cubs cards, are his stats actually better the the Witt Lightning?
Dansby is actually a Braves Captain card. It's a good card that gets better if you use the Buxton cornerstone captain to up his power.
But as I said, I don't think it is a fair comparison to compare an unboosted card (Witt JR) to a Boosted one (Swanson)
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@Dolenz64.
You're absolutely right. The 95 Witt card is probably the best free program SS you can get. I agree 100%!
That's actually part of my point. You know it, God knows it, little Timmy knows it, and SDS knows it. This is why they chose to give the card a 95 overall rating, but intentionally watered down the stats. It's really an 88 overall card with a 95 overall rating. They watered down the stats bc they knew 98% of the playerbase would grind for him.
This is why I created the thread. I chose to share this info and my thoughts regarding the overall stats for a 95 card is actually awatered down fraud 95 card.I listed the other players I'd rather use simply bc yes they are mostly boosted with the Buxton or Arenado captain. Cards like Ernie Banks is not. His card, "hitting wise" is better than Witt, and he's not a 95. One could argue well Witt has 99 speed. Yes he does. No argument here. But his hitting numbers are higher than Witt's, and Witt is a higher overall.
Remember, speed does NOT factor in a cards rating. There are 50 rated cards with 90+ speed.
My whole point for the thread is to show how disappointed I am. I wanted to use hos card competitively. I could still use him on HOF or Legend, but he'd count as one of 2 cards not needed for the captain boost. I'd rather use those slots on other cards, preferably 2 Outfielders with the Arenado boost. -
Where are you getting this “it’s actually an 88” business from? Nothing you have said in this entire thread has made any mathematical sense…
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When I go to my squad, click on Bobby Witt, then turn the filters to show only 88 or below players, there isn’t a player I own in the 88 range that has attributes anywhere close to Bobby Witt’s… Buxton ALMOST has stats that good, but I have him paralleled to V.
When I limit it to shortstops, but increase the attributes to include all ranges again, Aurilia is the only one that come close. But he’s 93 overall, so that makes sense.
Now, am I saying that Witt will make it into the meta of the game? No. Because honestly, I have never understood the meta of the game for a decade. But this “he’s equivalent to an 88” nonsense has to stop.
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@Dolenz64 said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
@x814xmafia said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
How does a Captain Card (Dansby) compare to a Lightning card?
If you use Dansby, without any other Cubs cards, are his stats actually better the the Witt Lightning?
Dansby is actually a Braves Captain card. It's a good card that gets better if you use the Buxton cornerstone captain to up his power.
But as I said, I don't think it is a fair comparison to compare an unboosted card (Witt JR) to a Boosted one (Swanson)
Oops
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They need to get rid of the 100+ hitting attributes.
Or they need to have EACH AND EVERY attribute able to go up to 125.
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@Shauwn said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
Remember, speed does NOT factor in a cards rating. There are 50 rated cards with 90+ speed.
My whole point for the thread is to show how disappointed I am. I wanted to use hos card competitively. I could still use him on HOF or Legend, but he'd count as one of 2 cards not needed for the captain boost. I'd rather use those slots on other cards, preferably 2 Outfielders with the Arenado boost.That is your choice but I don't want SDS to start having to tank a players speed or vision just to fall under the boosts of Arenado or Buxton. That is a deep rabbit hole to go down because then you have to look at actual team based theme teams where players are getting +15 to all contact and power stats if they have both team captains.
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@JDHalfrack said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
Where are you getting this “it’s actually an 88” business from? Nothing you have said in this entire thread has made any mathematical sense…
This right here. You are just making up numbers man. Im calling bull
bro. Ya just throwing out some random numbers and math on a video game forum 
that doesn't make a lick sense. I mean who are you man? The dude from Good Will Hunting? Lol -
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94.72 Meta overall according to a much more reputable source that has done these calculations for a few years.
But keep saying how dumb and stupid other people are OP.
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@doobiebross66-72 said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
94.72 Meta overall according to a much more reputable source that has done these calculations for a few years.
But keep saying how dumb and stupid other people are OP.
Showzone? I love that site.
In fact, One of the things that I love about it is that I’ll let you compare side-by-side cards from the past five or six years. So… you know what? I did just that.
24’s Season 1 Witt vs. 23’s Season 1 O’Neill Cruz. Both are 95 overall SS’s. Witt on left; Cruz on right.
Con R - 113; 101
Con L - 90; 58
Pwr R - 84; 120
Pwr L - 96; 93
Vis - 65; 58
Disc - 52; 81
Clt - 84; 97Bunt, DrBunt, & Dur were the same on both cards.
Fld - 85; 73
Arm - 81; 99
Acc - 84; 68
Reac - 77; 71Spd - 99; 99
Stl - 99; 50Honestly, it looks like if anything, Witt’s card is better than the typical 95 rated card from this time last year. Showzone tends to agree. It views this card very highly (102.27 to Cruz’s 93.72; similar in meta rankings though).
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@JDHalfrack said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
@doobiebross66-72 said in Why do the Season Award Program?:
94.72 Meta overall according to a much more reputable source that has done these calculations for a few years.
But keep saying how dumb and stupid other people are OP.
Showzone? I love that site.
In fact, One of the things that I love about it is that I’ll let you compare side-by-side cards from the past five or six years. So… you know what? I did just that.
24’s Season 1 Witt vs. 23’s Season 1 O’Neill Cruz. Both are 95 overall SS’s. Witt on left; Cruz on right.
Con R - 113; 101
Con L - 90; 58
Pwr R - 84; 120
Pwr L - 96; 93
Vis - 65; 58
Disc - 52; 81
Clt - 84; 97Bunt, DrBunt, & Dur were the same on both cards.
Fld - 85; 73
Arm - 81; 99
Acc - 84; 68
Reac - 77; 71Spd - 99; 99
Stl - 99; 50Honestly, it looks like if anything, Witt’s card is better than the typical 95 rated card from this time last year. Showzone tends to agree. It views this card very highly (102.27 to Cruz’s 93.72; similar in meta rankings though).
Completely blows up OP’s ridiculous “calculations” that he claims is “math”
Also, Witt Jr has been mashing for me since using him and that includes 2 ranked games on HOF. Fantastic leadoff hitter
