Another prime example of SDS excellence and class
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@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@raesONE-_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
They banned Digital Champion for bad mouthing Ashley and her moments on a stream. Which last I checked banning an account for something said in a content creators stream isn’t in the code of conduct. We should be careful they’ll ban everyone in this thread.
I just saw the clip.
Here's a thought, don't personally insult the devs. Be frustrated with the game if you want, question their decisions and direction if needed. But, if you have to result to vulgar insults towards any of the devs, then you don't get any sympathy from me.
It was a classless little rant he went on.
Again I get it. But to ban him? We still have a freedom of speech thing. He wasn’t cheating he wasn’t exploiting the game he went on a rant. Was it classless absolutely but to ban him, basically what SDS is saying don’t bad mouth us, dont question us, don’t say anything we don’t like or we’ll ban you. But I still see racism in the game with team names, sexually explicit logos, exploiting the game, and other things that aren’t being banned. DC owned it. Apologized. But a perma ban, or in Thuuneys case questioning the company and being fired. Basically don’t question them. Or they’ll make you disappear
I don't think you understand what freedom of speech actually means.
Oh, the legal scholar has arrived. Enlighten us please.
I am far from a legal scholar, but I'd be happy to show you what the first amendment says.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
One man’s profanity is another man’s lyric…that is actually a Supreme Court statement in a freedom of speech case…..so think you may want to drop that stance.
We're way off topic at this point...but freedom of speech relates to the government, that was my only point in my original comment. That statement you mentioned comes from a freedom of speech case about the government being able to criminalize the display of profanity. As far as I know, SDS is not the government and the person in question here was not arrested for what they said so I don't think that statement or freedom of speech in general is very relevant here. That's all I was trying to get at.
Anyway, that's probably about my limit on talking about the constitution on a video game forum for today.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@raesONE-_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
They banned Digital Champion for bad mouthing Ashley and her moments on a stream. Which last I checked banning an account for something said in a content creators stream isn’t in the code of conduct. We should be careful they’ll ban everyone in this thread.
I just saw the clip.
Here's a thought, don't personally insult the devs. Be frustrated with the game if you want, question their decisions and direction if needed. But, if you have to result to vulgar insults towards any of the devs, then you don't get any sympathy from me.
It was a classless little rant he went on.
Again I get it. But to ban him? We still have a freedom of speech thing. He wasn’t cheating he wasn’t exploiting the game he went on a rant. Was it classless absolutely but to ban him, basically what SDS is saying don’t bad mouth us, dont question us, don’t say anything we don’t like or we’ll ban you. But I still see racism in the game with team names, sexually explicit logos, exploiting the game, and other things that aren’t being banned. DC owned it. Apologized. But a perma ban, or in Thuuneys case questioning the company and being fired. Basically don’t question them. Or they’ll make you disappear
I don't think you understand what freedom of speech actually means.
Oh, the legal scholar has arrived. Enlighten us please.
I am far from a legal scholar, but I'd be happy to show you what the first amendment says.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
One man’s profanity is another man’s lyric…that is actually a Supreme Court statement in a freedom of speech case…..so think you may want to drop that stance.
We're way off topic at this point...but freedom of speech relates to the government, that was my only point in my original comment. That statement you mentioned comes from a freedom of speech case about the government being able to criminalize the display of profanity. As far as I know, SDS is not the government and the person in question here was not arrested for what they said so I don't think that statement or freedom of speech in general is very relevant here. That's all I was trying to get at.
Anyway, that's probably about my limit on talking about the constitution on a video game forum for today.
Well stated, I see where you were going….and yes, you captured exactly where that statement came in a federal case.
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@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@raesONE-_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@raesONE-_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
They banned Digital Champion for bad mouthing Ashley and her moments on a stream. Which last I checked banning an account for something said in a content creators stream isn’t in the code of conduct. We should be careful they’ll ban everyone in this thread.
I just saw the clip.
Here's a thought, don't personally insult the devs. Be frustrated with the game if you want, question their decisions and direction if needed. But, if you have to result to vulgar insults towards any of the devs, then you don't get any sympathy from me.
It was a classless little rant he went on.
Again I get it. But to ban him? We still have a freedom of speech thing. He wasn’t cheating he wasn’t exploiting the game he went on a rant. Was it classless absolutely but to ban him, basically what SDS is saying don’t bad mouth us, dont question us, don’t say anything we don’t like or we’ll ban you. But I still see racism in the game with team names, sexually explicit logos, exploiting the game, and other things that aren’t being banned. DC owned it. Apologized. But a perma ban, or in Thuuneys case questioning the company and being fired. Basically don’t question them. Or they’ll make you disappear
I don't think you understand what freedom of speech actually means.
Oh, the legal scholar has arrived. Enlighten us please.
I am far from a legal scholar, but I'd be happy to show you what the first amendment says.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Ah the copy paste legal scholar. Love to see it. The thing is that actual scholars have been debating about interpretation, something a single copy/paste won't provide.
How else could I provide you the text of the first amendment without copying and pasting it? Did you want me to type it out instead? It would still say the same thing.
Look man, your obsession with me is getting out of hand and pretty weird. If me posting on this forum triggers you so badly perhaps it would be best for you to just block me? It can't be healthy to have me living in your head rent free like this. I'm still concerned about you brother and really hoping for the best for you. Have a good weekend.
I do understand. I’m guessing your easily offended by everything? -
@Pergo_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@LIONED-33_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
They banned Digital Champion for bad mouthing Ashley and her moments on a stream. Which last I checked banning an account for something said in a content creators stream isn’t in the code of conduct. We should be careful they’ll ban everyone in this thread.
I just saw the clip.
Here's a thought, don't personally insult the devs. Be frustrated with the game if you want, question their decisions and direction if needed. But, if you have to result to vulgar insults towards any of the devs, then you don't get any sympathy from me.
It was a classless little rant he went on.
Again I get it. But to ban him? We still have a freedom of speech thing. He wasn’t cheating he wasn’t exploiting the game he went on a rant. Was it classless absolutely but to ban him, basically what SDS is saying don’t bad mouth us, dont question us, don’t say anything we don’t like or we’ll ban you. But I still see racism in the game with team names, sexually explicit logos, exploiting the game, and other things that aren’t being banned. DC owned it. Apologized. But a perma ban, or in Thuuneys case questioning the company and being fired. Basically don’t question them. Or they’ll make you disappear
I don't think you understand what freedom of speech actually means.
These clowns love using their buzz words
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SDS is a private company, not the government which the first amendment applies to.. how do people not know this? I’m not even American and I know this lol
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Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
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@CDNmoneymaker93_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
absolutely mate - i am in the same boat as you - i have been sponsored a lot over the years with different companies in my line of work - the very least you can do is to take concerns privately over email not air out publicly - its a respect thing
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They did this 5 years ago to the best player in the game right before they started having community members. This isn’t news this is boredom.
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@DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
They did this 5 years ago to the best player in the game right before they started having community members. This isn’t news this is boredom.
lol again fake outrage
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@CDNmoneymaker93_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
We are in an age where streamers/creators have entirely too much influence on games. Listening to these people have made games worse. Gaming companies have gotten greedy and lazy. Instead of marketing the game to sell, they use streamers/creators and give these people special privileges.
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@DemIsE4_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@CDNmoneymaker93_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
We are in an age where streamers/creators have entirely too much influence on games. Listening to these people have made games worse. Gaming companies have gotten greedy and lazy. Instead of marketing the game to sell, they use streamers/creators and give these people special privileges.
So they’ve taken the approach of literally everything else in the world?
Aaron Judge just signed an endorsement deal with Jordan is he supposed to pay for his Jordan gear to endorse the brand? Does someone who does a commercial for a company pay full price for whatever they do the commercial for? C’mon now, you’re say you’re a 50+ year old man, you should have a better understanding of the world by this point.
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@The_Canuckler said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@CDNmoneymaker93_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
We are in an age where streamers/creators have entirely too much influence on games. Listening to these people have made games worse. Gaming companies have gotten greedy and lazy. Instead of marketing the game to sell, they use streamers/creators and give these people special privileges.
So they’ve taken the approach of literally everything else in the world?
Aaron Judge just signed an endorsement deal with Jordan is he supposed to pay for his Jordan gear to endorse the brand? Does someone who does a commercial for a company pay full price for whatever they do the commercial for? C’mon now, you’re say you’re a 50+ year old man, you should have a better understanding of the world by this point.
Pretty sure he means that instead of paying to advertise the game via commercials etc they are relying on people that stream the game. 
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@The_Canuckler said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@CDNmoneymaker93_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
We are in an age where streamers/creators have entirely too much influence on games. Listening to these people have made games worse. Gaming companies have gotten greedy and lazy. Instead of marketing the game to sell, they use streamers/creators and give these people special privileges.
So they’ve taken the approach of literally everything else in the world?
Aaron Judge just signed an endorsement deal with Jordan is he supposed to pay for his Jordan gear to endorse the brand? Does someone who does a commercial for a company pay full price for whatever they do the commercial for? C’mon now, you’re say you’re a 50+ year old man, you should have a better understanding of the world by this point.
Pretty sure he means that instead of paying to advertise the game via commercials etc they are relying on people that stream the game. 
Lol the game is being advertised via commercials though! Small streaming platform is not their main media
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Never heard of this guy or any of the 'community' players. I think most people have not either that play.
if this post wasnt created i wouldn't have even known about this guy getting fired.
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@aware_ward13_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@raesONE-_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Thuney has announced he is no longer an e-sports ambassador for SDS and said it was not his decision and the reason the decision was made is because he had talked negatively in public about the current state of the tournaments organized by SDS.
For those who don't know, Thuney is the guy who does the commentary for the games and he is beloved by the community who participates in these events. He is very passionate and, like many others, he would like to see MLBTS make significant steps to become a worthy e-sports title.
But since the tournaments have been a hot mess and SDS doesn't seem to care about it, he voiced his frustrations on his personal social platform. This lead SDS to strip him from his ambassador role moving forward.
Classy as always SDS, great work. You truly understand how to build a community.
If you’re an employee you do not bad mouth your employer publicly this is just common knowledge. If you have differences with your employer you talk to them privately and if a resolution can’t be found then both parties move on
Also if you go on an interview and you start bashing your former employee chances are you won’t get hired bc they feel why wouldn’t this person bash us to others just like he’s bashing his former employer
I told this to thuney last night in his chat and he still seems to not grasp this concept 100% bc he still believes he shouldn’t of been fired but at the same time says he knew he was going to get canned for weeks before his rant
He told me he’s 26 trying to say he’s grown etc etc etc… I love it when 26 year olds think they know everything lol… so much to learn
Good post.
Hopefully for him he can learn from this mistake and not make it again in the future wherever he is employed.
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@The_Canuckler said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@CDNmoneymaker93_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Speaking as someone who has a partnership with a company to promote a product I can tell you that the only real "rule" is to not publicly speak about tye company in a poor manner, if I have an issue with something I have a direct line I can call and discuss the issue.
Applying that understanding to this situation the likely hood is that "rule" would all to Thuney who made a poor choice to air his issue in an open public forum. He could have been more nuanced and tactful in how he did it to say hey I have issues and concerns and I have voiced them direct to SDS and left it at that.
We are in an age where creators are getting more and more affiliations and collaborations with companies but are not fully understand that once you do that there are reasonable limits to what is acceptable from one side and not acceptable from the other.
Bottom line is he made statements as a partner to a company and they didn't like how he went about it so they cut ties. That's how it works, if they banned him from playing the game that would be considered excessive but cutting ties for thr working relationship is reasonable in its context
We are in an age where streamers/creators have entirely too much influence on games. Listening to these people have made games worse. Gaming companies have gotten greedy and lazy. Instead of marketing the game to sell, they use streamers/creators and give these people special privileges.
So they’ve taken the approach of literally everything else in the world?
Aaron Judge just signed an endorsement deal with Jordan is he supposed to pay for his Jordan gear to endorse the brand? Does someone who does a commercial for a company pay full price for whatever they do the commercial for? C’mon now, you’re say you’re a 50+ year old man, you should have a better understanding of the world by this point.
Yea, the people in this world are [censored]. Too much greed.
If a zombie apocalypse ever broke out (walking dead not world war z because we would all be screwed), it wouldn't be the zombies I worry about. 100% be the people left alive.
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@raesONE-_PSN said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@Bearsfan217_XBL said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Another prime example of SDS excellence and class:
Lol no one’s going to jail wtf y’all complaining about there are consequences and both are still enjoying their freedom. No one will take a stand and boycott
Well it's the internet and we gotta find something to be fake mad about dam it
You are pathetic if you don't see the point behind this.
How this work out for ya
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i remember a few years ago the game had a program featuring these community guys and I had no idea who any of them were. i was like what a big waste of time this program is. they made a program from some random joe's off the street.
I guess this guy who got fired must have thought he was something special. that posting he was fired would start some kind of nationwide outrage where people would stop playing the game and SDS would beg on their knees crawling back to him demanding he rejoin the 'community'. When in reality 98.9% of people who play this game have no idea who these people are.
there's an old saying I don't hear much anymore "Dont bite the hand that feeds you"
Delirious!
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