This Game is Dying
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@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
I’ll converse with you without disrespecting. This is my opinion:
The game is simply too hard. Years ago the casual player could turn on a fastball, check swing on a breaking ball, and score some runs. But back then this forum was awash with people complaining about how their opponent scored a run when they shouldn’t have. “Skills don't matter” was the most common refrain.
Now you almost have to be a machine to hit well consistently, especially on HoF and Legend, but even AS is too hard for the casuals.
Back when it was easier, people wouldn’t admit when the easier gameplay allowed them to score—oh no. That was all skill. But when “Little Billy” scored because he checked his swing three times then hit a homer with less than perfect timing, the world was ending.
Say what you will about all that, but the game was more fun to play back then.
I don’t think they can go back now, though. The diehards have trained themselves to be better hitters. If they make it as easy to hit as it was in, say, 2016, everyone would seem like a goon, and the real goons would score 50 runs/game.
My view: SDS bowed to the hardcore crowd and sent the casual and somewhat dedicated MBLTS gamers to the showers. I don’t think it’s the all 99s that have turned people away. It’s having a lineup full of 99s and losing 1-0 that’s doing it.
Sorry that the game is too difficult for you now, maybe everything should be on rookie so everyone gets a reward. I’m in the midst of my worse season hitting like .250 you know what I’ve never thought during this? The game should be easier. It’s baseball, baseball is difficult.
You're exactly what the problem is in this community.
Because I want the game on the highest levels to be difficult? Why do you want everything handed to you?
No one wants the game to be easier, are you struggling with reading comprehension? My post mentioned absolutely nothing about how difficult the game is. One person replied giving their thoughts on why CASUAL GAMERS might be leaving the game because it can be too much of a learning curve/difficult. Do you get it now? My lord.
I can confirm that he struggles with reading comprehension.
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@raesONE-_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@raesONE-_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@raesONE-_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
I can guarantee if we had 18’s gameplay again you all would be screaming about how easy it is and how casuals are able to compete with you because of it.
Nobody wants that and you know it. Worst game ever released. Now if you talk about 16 or 17. Pitch speeds were the same for every level but the higher you got the PCI became smaller. (That's how I recall it anyway) If it’s like that I'm all in. Don't know why my history doesn't show much when I have played online every year but I sure played more online when the game was like that.
Pitch speeds can’t be the same from all star to legend. That would be terrible. We had that in 18 as well.
I think it would actually be a great idea. And then the higher the difficulty, the smaller the PCI and the higher your PCI rating should be to get a good result. Problem with 18 (one of many) was that the contact area was ridiculously large and you could pull balls out of the dirt into the stands. They should punish you for chasing a baseball outside the strikezone. And yeah yeah yeah Vlad Sr did it all the time in real life blablabla. It's a game, not real baseball.
So right now from this thread pitch speeds on all star are too much for casuals and so you’re going to advocate for universal pitch speeds at what difficulty?
Like I said in the edit of my post, I personally think that the sweet spot for universal pitch speeds would be somewhere in between AS and HOF. But here's the thing, it's not about me. The top players in this game who play legend all the time is probably <5% so I don't think they should cater everything to that group of players. But if the PCI is so ridiculously small on legend and if you actually get punished for swinging at bad pitches, that will show who the real stick gods are and who has the best eye in the game.
So essentially back to 18? And the casuals that can’t handle all star pitch speeds now?
No 18 was way too forgiving for bad swings and the area of solid contact was huge.
I mean, in 18 you couldn't even use the FB because it was too easy to hit. They then added a spam restriction in 19 on secondary pitches because of it.
Take out the lineout fest and 19 was pretty great. Like you said, a mix between AS and HoF and removing the outlier perk (or nerfing it a bit) would be great.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in This Game is Dying:
If HoF and Legend used All-Star pitch speeds, I think that would be a positive change. Smaller PCI on higher difficulties is fine, but the subpar matchmaking system is far too inconsistent to support super fast pitch speeds like HOF/Legend has online currently.
Very true.
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@yankblan_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@raesONE-_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@raesONE-_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@raesONE-_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
I can guarantee if we had 18’s gameplay again you all would be screaming about how easy it is and how casuals are able to compete with you because of it.
Nobody wants that and you know it. Worst game ever released. Now if you talk about 16 or 17. Pitch speeds were the same for every level but the higher you got the PCI became smaller. (That's how I recall it anyway) If it’s like that I'm all in. Don't know why my history doesn't show much when I have played online every year but I sure played more online when the game was like that.
Pitch speeds can’t be the same from all star to legend. That would be terrible. We had that in 18 as well.
I think it would actually be a great idea. And then the higher the difficulty, the smaller the PCI and the higher your PCI rating should be to get a good result. Problem with 18 (one of many) was that the contact area was ridiculously large and you could pull balls out of the dirt into the stands. They should punish you for chasing a baseball outside the strikezone. And yeah yeah yeah Vlad Sr did it all the time in real life blablabla. It's a game, not real baseball.
So right now from this thread pitch speeds on all star are too much for casuals and so you’re going to advocate for universal pitch speeds at what difficulty?
Like I said in the edit of my post, I personally think that the sweet spot for universal pitch speeds would be somewhere in between AS and HOF. But here's the thing, it's not about me. The top players in this game who play legend all the time is probably <5% so I don't think they should cater everything to that group of players. But if the PCI is so ridiculously small on legend and if you actually get punished for swinging at bad pitches, that will show who the real stick gods are and who has the best eye in the game.
So essentially back to 18? And the casuals that can’t handle all star pitch speeds now?
No 18 was way too forgiving for bad swings and the area of solid contact was huge.
I mean, in 18 you couldn't even use the FB because it was too easy to hit. They then added a spam restriction in 19 on secondary pitches because of it.
Take out the lineout fest and 19 was pretty great. Like you said, a mix between AS and HoF and removing the outlier perk (or nerfing it a bit) would be great.
But you have to take into consideration that it was too easy because the area of solid contact and the PCI were way too large and forgiving. Those two things are heavily connected. I guarantee you if the PCI is tiny as heck, it will get a lot harder to hit that same pitch.
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@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@The_Canuckler said in This Game is Dying:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
I’ll converse with you without disrespecting. This is my opinion:
The game is simply too hard. Years ago the casual player could turn on a fastball, check swing on a breaking ball, and score some runs. But back then this forum was awash with people complaining about how their opponent scored a run when they shouldn’t have. “Skills don't matter” was the most common refrain.
Now you almost have to be a machine to hit well consistently, especially on HoF and Legend, but even AS is too hard for the casuals.
Back when it was easier, people wouldn’t admit when the easier gameplay allowed them to score—oh no. That was all skill. But when “Little Billy” scored because he checked his swing three times then hit a homer with less than perfect timing, the world was ending.
Say what you will about all that, but the game was more fun to play back then.
I don’t think they can go back now, though. The diehards have trained themselves to be better hitters. If they make it as easy to hit as it was in, say, 2016, everyone would seem like a goon, and the real goons would score 50 runs/game.
My view: SDS bowed to the hardcore crowd and sent the casual and somewhat dedicated MBLTS gamers to the showers. I don’t think it’s the all 99s that have turned people away. It’s having a lineup full of 99s and losing 1-0 that’s doing it.
Sorry that the game is too difficult for you now, maybe everything should be on rookie so everyone gets a reward. I’m in the midst of my worse season hitting like .250 you know what I’ve never thought during this? The game should be easier. It’s baseball, baseball is difficult.
You're exactly what the problem is in this community.
Because I want the game on the highest levels to be difficult? Why do you want everything handed to you?
No one wants the game to be easier, are you struggling with reading comprehension? My post mentioned absolutely nothing about how difficult the game is. One person replied giving their thoughts on why CASUAL GAMERS might be leaving the game because it can be too much of a learning curve/difficult. Do you get it now? My lord.
Maurice literally wants the game to be easier he’s been complaining about it for weeks, multiple posts about how the game is too difficult.
Honestly I think you should just quit and leave the forums it would be better for your mental health because right now.. wow..
We're trying to offer an open dialogue here -- you're attacking everyone posting and getting personal. Why? It's a conversation my dude. Take a deep breath and move on if you have nothing of value to contribute to the conversation.
Nah “my dude” the game isn’t dying. Every post from you is about how the game is terrible wah wah wah. Why don’t you go make another post about how you beat someone with lots of hours in and then attack everyone for telling you how stupid a post that was.
Come play a REAL competitive "high level" game like CSGO. This game never been competitive it's RNG location based game. My dude you never ever played a Esport league season in your life you don't know high level skill LOL.
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All of my co-workers love and play sports games. None of them play this game. Why? It's too hard, for all of them.
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Has nobody been paying attention to other games like for example Street Fighter 6? Check out their online matchmaking and filtering opponents online, how come SDS can't do this? Incompetent developers with no intent to improve. But hey enjoy grinding the same old cards, again and again every year LMFAO.
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Runescape has more players online then this game like thats bad LOOOOL.
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@BestPalV_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
Has nobody been paying attention to other games like for example Street Fighter 6? Check out their online matchmaking and filtering opponents online, how come SDS can't do this? Incompetent developers with no intent to improve. But hey enjoy grinding the same old cards, again and again every year LMFAO.
I would assume other games have their own community forums. This one is for MLB the Show
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@BJDUBBYAH_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@BestPalV_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
Has nobody been paying attention to other games like for example Street Fighter 6? Check out their online matchmaking and filtering opponents online, how come SDS can't do this? Incompetent developers with no intent to improve. But hey enjoy grinding the same old cards, again and again every year LMFAO.
I would assume other games have their own community forums. This one is for MLB the Show
mad this game online is bad compare to other games.
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@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
On PlayStation charts -- MLB has not been a top 40 played game in multiple consecutive weeks. To put it in perspective, games like Sniper Elite 5 are listed as top 40...
On Xbox charts -- MLB the Show 23 currently sits at 27 this past week and has been falling, but much of that is due to the fact that the game is free with Gamepass on Xbox so numbers will be inflated. This inflation is doubled down with a chart representing current player base -- MLB the Show 23 was the only game on this list of 100 to have the highest differentiation of hours played to player count ratio. This means that the small number of people who are still playing are logging long hours.
The. Game. Is. Dying. We all know those two or three people that used to play it that don't anymore. Why? Because everyone is a 99, they force you to grind your life away, buying packs from the store is the most boring experience in any ultimate team style gamemode of any sports video game (I mean who from SDS thought it was a good idea to only allow you to pull CORE players in packs... what a snooze fest), and the game is filled with simply too much RNG that most of us in here chalk up to "baseball".
When will the community actually hold the development team accountable? It's riddled with server issues, glitches, bugs, exploits. Since release, there hasn't been a single meaningful gameplay update AT ALL. It's been like this for years now and players are picking up on it. The ones who stay are complacent. We use excuses like "it's the only option, what other baseball game would we play". When people suggest posts like this, they get targeted with phrases like "must of lost today" instead of having an open HONEST dialogue with constructive criticism on how we can provide ways to improve the game through the power of the players.
If not, enjoy making your snobby comments towards people who post in here that are passionate about playing the game at a high level. We're leaving... The game that is your "only option" will continue to bleed out of a player base until it looses enough money year over year to where that option is no longer available. The only ones left behind will be players who don't care for competitive online play, or offline players. I wish I was wrong.
Yesterday you were whining because your opponent played the game too much. Today you're arguing that the game is dying and people aren't playing it.
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@Pennstatefencer_MLBTS said in This Game is Dying:
@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
On PlayStation charts -- MLB has not been a top 40 played game in multiple consecutive weeks. To put it in perspective, games like Sniper Elite 5 are listed as top 40...
On Xbox charts -- MLB the Show 23 currently sits at 27 this past week and has been falling, but much of that is due to the fact that the game is free with Gamepass on Xbox so numbers will be inflated. This inflation is doubled down with a chart representing current player base -- MLB the Show 23 was the only game on this list of 100 to have the highest differentiation of hours played to player count ratio. This means that the small number of people who are still playing are logging long hours.
The. Game. Is. Dying. We all know those two or three people that used to play it that don't anymore. Why? Because everyone is a 99, they force you to grind your life away, buying packs from the store is the most boring experience in any ultimate team style gamemode of any sports video game (I mean who from SDS thought it was a good idea to only allow you to pull CORE players in packs... what a snooze fest), and the game is filled with simply too much RNG that most of us in here chalk up to "baseball".
When will the community actually hold the development team accountable? It's riddled with server issues, glitches, bugs, exploits. Since release, there hasn't been a single meaningful gameplay update AT ALL. It's been like this for years now and players are picking up on it. The ones who stay are complacent. We use excuses like "it's the only option, what other baseball game would we play". When people suggest posts like this, they get targeted with phrases like "must of lost today" instead of having an open HONEST dialogue with constructive criticism on how we can provide ways to improve the game through the power of the players.
If not, enjoy making your snobby comments towards people who post in here that are passionate about playing the game at a high level. We're leaving... The game that is your "only option" will continue to bleed out of a player base until it looses enough money year over year to where that option is no longer available. The only ones left behind will be players who don't care for competitive online play, or offline players. I wish I was wrong.
Yesterday you were whining because your opponent played the game too much. Today you're arguing that the game is dying and people aren't playing it.
These are not mutually exclusive. Some people have concerning habits when they play this game. It’s also dying. To bring it full circle, the people pumping no life hours into the game are encouraging SDS to keep the garbage status quo it currently has/is.
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@BestPalV_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
Runescape has more players online than this game like thats bad LOOOOL.
Yup, but watch. Someone will be here soon to say “looks like someone lost today” lmao. These dudes are wild in here.
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@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@BestPalV_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
Runescape has more players online than this game like thats bad LOOOOL.
Yup, but watch. Someone will be here soon to say “looks like someone lost today” lmao. These dudes are wild in here.
Dudes say that BECAUSE THEY coping hard they spent their ENTIRE salary on this game. They have to defend it all cost LMAO
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@BestPalV_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
@BestPalV_PSN said in This Game is Dying:
Runescape has more players online than this game like thats bad LOOOOL.
Yup, but watch. Someone will be here soon to say “looks like someone lost today” lmao. These dudes are wild in here.
Dudes say that BECAUSE THEY coping hard they spent their ENTIRE salary on this game. They have to defend it all cost LMAO
Facts, I’ve never seen a community defend a game so much as the people in here do. You’re right, they have to justify the insane hours and money put into it. Has to be the case, why else would people blindly support this product?
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Like the Canuckler guy that always gets fiesty — the dude has 600 hours logged already lmao. 40 hours of MLB a week on average lmfaoo. Of course he’s going to defend the game, it’s his life. He’s working a full time job playing this game!
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@NR7LES_XBL said in This Game is Dying:
Like the Canuckler guy that always gets fiesta — the dude has 600 hours logged already lmao. 40 hours of MLB a week on average lmfaoo. Of course he’s going to defend the game, it’s his life.
Bro, he sweats bacon grease while playing. I can only imagine his controller
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"... This game is dying..."
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Dying and here you are everyday
