Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games
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@The_Joneser_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
When a batter swings in real life. Does he adjust for pitch location or just time the pitch and hope it hits his bat?
A major league hitter, in particular--but anyone who had played a lot of baseball--has taken so many swings and drilled swings to specific locations (tees, toss, etc) for so long that adjusting for location when batting is muscle memory. It's timing that screws with that; you decide, too early or too late, where the swing should be and you choose the wrong location because the pitcher has deceived you and disrupted your timing.
Maybe you know more than Warren Spahn, but I happen to trust his take a bit more.
The advantage of timing is pitch location does not matter
I use analog, so it absolutely does, but even if someone simply pushes a button, a well-placed pitch beats timing/directional roughly 76% of the time (most timing/directional players hit about .240). Anyone with "skill" should do pretty well against those odds.
and takes out half the chess game of pitcher/batter.
Playing Missile Command while batting adds nothing to this aspect of the game.
I can pound inside fbs in key situations and get my opponent to want to sit up high on fb...and then change location on them and even with good timing of the fb theyd miss due to location. So timing is not the only factor
Again, with analog, that plays out the same way for you--except I'll actually swing and miss instead of foul it off. With a button-push, you're still looking at that 76%.
...and try timing a pitch while also moving the pci to get contact. That is inherently harder and should be rewarded more but its not.
It is clearly rewarded more, or no one would use it.
RS is for user for user skill. Its set to competitive settings which states that. Then you are rewarded w better players the farther you make it.
If RS was meant to exclude a particular interface, you wouldn't be allowed to use it.
Theres no reason for timing/direction only online unless unranked.
I prefer ranked to unranked, so I'll keep doing that, but thanks for being so open minded.
I wanna know whos hitting hrs while being late w zone? Its a popout almost every time if youre barely above the inner pci and late.
It should be weak contact most of the time, so that's a good thing. But it does happen, unless the in-game feedback has been lying to me. I'm not saying that it happens as often as it does with early swings (this should be rare, also), but it does happen.
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So pitch location has zero to due with hitting? So if i swing w perfect timing every time at the same level..im gonna magically hit a ball at my knees because..well muscle memory?? Even when you hit off a tee...coaches move the tee around to different get this...locations.
If i used timing only and swung with power every time those just late swings would be hrs.
Pure analog doesnt make the user take location into effect either.
In RS w contact and power maxed. Letting the cpu "AIM" for you, esp on AS level, is an advantage esp if you swing w power every time.
Yes online should be user vs user. Not user vs cpu.
I guess we should just select a pitch and let the cpu do the rest too.
️Also..for the handicapped...nothing prevents them from playing the game online. Just not ranked.
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@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@The_Joneser_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
When a batter swings in real life. Does he adjust for pitch location or just time the pitch and hope it hits his bat?
A major league hitter, in particular--but anyone who had played a lot of baseball--has taken so many swings and drilled swings to specific locations (tees, toss, etc) for so long that adjusting for location when batting is muscle memory. It's timing that screws with that; you decide, too early or too late, where the swing should be and you choose the wrong location because the pitcher has deceived you and disrupted your timing.
Maybe you know more than Warren Spahn, but I happen to trust his take a bit more.
The advantage of timing is pitch location does not matter
I use analog, so it absolutely does, but even if someone simply pushes a button, a well-placed pitch beats timing/directional roughly 76% of the time (most timing/directional players hit about .240). Anyone with "skill" should do pretty well against those odds.
and takes out half the chess game of pitcher/batter.
Playing Missile Command while batting adds nothing to this aspect of the game.
I can pound inside fbs in key situations and get my opponent to want to sit up high on fb...and then change location on them and even with good timing of the fb theyd miss due to location. So timing is not the only factor
Again, with analog, that plays out the same way for you--except I'll actually swing and miss instead of foul it off. With a button-push, you're still looking at that 76%.
...and try timing a pitch while also moving the pci to get contact. That is inherently harder and should be rewarded more but its not.
It is clearly rewarded more, or no one would use it.
RS is for user for user skill. Its set to competitive settings which states that. Then you are rewarded w better players the farther you make it.
If RS was meant to exclude a particular interface, you wouldn't be allowed to use it.
Theres no reason for timing/direction only online unless unranked.
I prefer ranked to unranked, so I'll keep doing that, but thanks for being so open minded.
I wanna know whos hitting hrs while being late w zone? Its a popout almost every time if youre barely above the inner pci and late.
It should be weak contact most of the time, so that's a good thing. But it does happen, unless the in-game feedback has been lying to me. I'm not saying that it happens as often as it does with early swings (this should be rare, also), but it does happen.
I
So pitch location has zero to due with hitting? So if i swing w perfect timing every time at the same level..im gonna magically hit a ball at my knees because..well muscle memory?? Even when you hit off a tee...coaches move the tee around to different get this...locations.
If i used timing only and swung with power every time those just late swings would be hrs.
Pure analog doesnt make the user take location into effect either.
In RS w contact and power maxed. Letting the cpu "AIM" for you, esp on AS level, is an advantage esp if you swing w power every time.
Yes online should be user vs user. Not user vs cpu.
I guess we should just select a pitch and let the cpu do the rest too.️Also..for the handicapped...nothing prevents them from playing the game online. Just not ranked.
So basically you’re against handicapped people playing the game?
Sorry you lose to players using timing and directional. That’s completely on you.
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@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@The_Joneser_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
When a batter swings in real life. Does he adjust for pitch location or just time the pitch and hope it hits his bat?
A major league hitter, in particular--but anyone who had played a lot of baseball--has taken so many swings and drilled swings to specific locations (tees, toss, etc) for so long that adjusting for location when batting is muscle memory. It's timing that screws with that; you decide, too early or too late, where the swing should be and you choose the wrong location because the pitcher has deceived you and disrupted your timing.
Maybe you know more than Warren Spahn, but I happen to trust his take a bit more.
The advantage of timing is pitch location does not matter
I use analog, so it absolutely does, but even if someone simply pushes a button, a well-placed pitch beats timing/directional roughly 76% of the time (most timing/directional players hit about .240). Anyone with "skill" should do pretty well against those odds.
and takes out half the chess game of pitcher/batter.
Playing Missile Command while batting adds nothing to this aspect of the game.
I can pound inside fbs in key situations and get my opponent to want to sit up high on fb...and then change location on them and even with good timing of the fb theyd miss due to location. So timing is not the only factor
Again, with analog, that plays out the same way for you--except I'll actually swing and miss instead of foul it off. With a button-push, you're still looking at that 76%.
...and try timing a pitch while also moving the pci to get contact. That is inherently harder and should be rewarded more but its not.
It is clearly rewarded more, or no one would use it.
RS is for user for user skill. Its set to competitive settings which states that. Then you are rewarded w better players the farther you make it.
If RS was meant to exclude a particular interface, you wouldn't be allowed to use it.
Theres no reason for timing/direction only online unless unranked.
I prefer ranked to unranked, so I'll keep doing that, but thanks for being so open minded.
I wanna know whos hitting hrs while being late w zone? Its a popout almost every time if youre barely above the inner pci and late.
It should be weak contact most of the time, so that's a good thing. But it does happen, unless the in-game feedback has been lying to me. I'm not saying that it happens as often as it does with early swings (this should be rare, also), but it does happen.
I
So pitch location has zero to due with hitting? So if i swing w perfect timing every time at the same level..im gonna magically hit a ball at my knees because..well muscle memory?? Even when you hit off a tee...coaches move the tee around to different get this...locations.
If i used timing only and swung with power every time those just late swings would be hrs.
Prove it, use timing next season and make World Series if it’s so effective.
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@The_Canuckler said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@The_Joneser_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
When a batter swings in real life. Does he adjust for pitch location or just time the pitch and hope it hits his bat?
A major league hitter, in particular--but anyone who had played a lot of baseball--has taken so many swings and drilled swings to specific locations (tees, toss, etc) for so long that adjusting for location when batting is muscle memory. It's timing that screws with that; you decide, too early or too late, where the swing should be and you choose the wrong location because the pitcher has deceived you and disrupted your timing.
Maybe you know more than Warren Spahn, but I happen to trust his take a bit more.
The advantage of timing is pitch location does not matter
I use analog, so it absolutely does, but even if someone simply pushes a button, a well-placed pitch beats timing/directional roughly 76% of the time (most timing/directional players hit about .240). Anyone with "skill" should do pretty well against those odds.
and takes out half the chess game of pitcher/batter.
Playing Missile Command while batting adds nothing to this aspect of the game.
I can pound inside fbs in key situations and get my opponent to want to sit up high on fb...and then change location on them and even with good timing of the fb theyd miss due to location. So timing is not the only factor
Again, with analog, that plays out the same way for you--except I'll actually swing and miss instead of foul it off. With a button-push, you're still looking at that 76%.
...and try timing a pitch while also moving the pci to get contact. That is inherently harder and should be rewarded more but its not.
It is clearly rewarded more, or no one would use it.
RS is for user for user skill. Its set to competitive settings which states that. Then you are rewarded w better players the farther you make it.
If RS was meant to exclude a particular interface, you wouldn't be allowed to use it.
Theres no reason for timing/direction only online unless unranked.
I prefer ranked to unranked, so I'll keep doing that, but thanks for being so open minded.
I wanna know whos hitting hrs while being late w zone? Its a popout almost every time if youre barely above the inner pci and late.
It should be weak contact most of the time, so that's a good thing. But it does happen, unless the in-game feedback has been lying to me. I'm not saying that it happens as often as it does with early swings (this should be rare, also), but it does happen.
I
So pitch location has zero to due with hitting? So if i swing w perfect timing every time at the same level..im gonna magically hit a ball at my knees because..well muscle memory?? Even when you hit off a tee...coaches move the tee around to different get this...locations.
If i used timing only and swung with power every time those just late swings would be hrs.
Pure analog doesnt make the user take location into effect either.
In RS w contact and power maxed. Letting the cpu "AIM" for you, esp on AS level, is an advantage esp if you swing w power every time.
Yes online should be user vs user. Not user vs cpu.
I guess we should just select a pitch and let the cpu do the rest too.️Also..for the handicapped...nothing prevents them from playing the game online. Just not ranked.
So basically you’re against handicapped people playing the game?
Sorry you lose to players using timing and directional. That’s completely on you.
Youre quite touchy w the handicap talk. Calm down. Ya when its handicapped and made easier to hit. Yes.. i lose at times. Havent made world series w zone. Go ahead and get to hof level hitting and see how long ya last in it w zone.
But carry on white knight. -
Man im about to try directional timing
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@Bearsfan217_XBL said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
Man im about to try directional timing
Amen. I saw mention of a batting tee I’m looking for that
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@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@The_Canuckler said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@The_Joneser_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
When a batter swings in real life. Does he adjust for pitch location or just time the pitch and hope it hits his bat?
A major league hitter, in particular--but anyone who had played a lot of baseball--has taken so many swings and drilled swings to specific locations (tees, toss, etc) for so long that adjusting for location when batting is muscle memory. It's timing that screws with that; you decide, too early or too late, where the swing should be and you choose the wrong location because the pitcher has deceived you and disrupted your timing.
Maybe you know more than Warren Spahn, but I happen to trust his take a bit more.
The advantage of timing is pitch location does not matter
I use analog, so it absolutely does, but even if someone simply pushes a button, a well-placed pitch beats timing/directional roughly 76% of the time (most timing/directional players hit about .240). Anyone with "skill" should do pretty well against those odds.
and takes out half the chess game of pitcher/batter.
Playing Missile Command while batting adds nothing to this aspect of the game.
I can pound inside fbs in key situations and get my opponent to want to sit up high on fb...and then change location on them and even with good timing of the fb theyd miss due to location. So timing is not the only factor
Again, with analog, that plays out the same way for you--except I'll actually swing and miss instead of foul it off. With a button-push, you're still looking at that 76%.
...and try timing a pitch while also moving the pci to get contact. That is inherently harder and should be rewarded more but its not.
It is clearly rewarded more, or no one would use it.
RS is for user for user skill. Its set to competitive settings which states that. Then you are rewarded w better players the farther you make it.
If RS was meant to exclude a particular interface, you wouldn't be allowed to use it.
Theres no reason for timing/direction only online unless unranked.
I prefer ranked to unranked, so I'll keep doing that, but thanks for being so open minded.
I wanna know whos hitting hrs while being late w zone? Its a popout almost every time if youre barely above the inner pci and late.
It should be weak contact most of the time, so that's a good thing. But it does happen, unless the in-game feedback has been lying to me. I'm not saying that it happens as often as it does with early swings (this should be rare, also), but it does happen.
I
So pitch location has zero to due with hitting? So if i swing w perfect timing every time at the same level..im gonna magically hit a ball at my knees because..well muscle memory?? Even when you hit off a tee...coaches move the tee around to different get this...locations.
If i used timing only and swung with power every time those just late swings would be hrs.
Pure analog doesnt make the user take location into effect either.
In RS w contact and power maxed. Letting the cpu "AIM" for you, esp on AS level, is an advantage esp if you swing w power every time.
Yes online should be user vs user. Not user vs cpu.
I guess we should just select a pitch and let the cpu do the rest too.️Also..for the handicapped...nothing prevents them from playing the game online. Just not ranked.
So basically you’re against handicapped people playing the game?
Sorry you lose to players using timing and directional. That’s completely on you.
Youre quite touchy w the handicap talk. Calm down. Ya when its handicapped and made easier to hit. Yes.. i lose at times. Havent made world series w zone. Go ahead and get to hof level hitting and see how long ya last in it w zone.
But carry on white knight.Well, I’ve been World Series every month since 2017 using exclusively zone, there was a time when I was a top 50 lifetime player all while using zone. So… yea I’d say I last quite well using zone.
And the handicap thing I don’t have time for because I know people with handicaps that love this game. They shouldn’t be kept out of ranked because you can’t beat an inferior hitting interface.
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Except the % of that actually happening is low. I have a winning record and id bet ive yet to even play a one armed man.
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@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
Except the % of that actually happening is low. I have a winning record and id bet ive yet to even play a one armed man.
One arm, tremors, cerebral palsy. Open up your sphere and realize there’s more than people like you that play the game.
Also, directional and timing is inferior if you can’t beat it it says a lot about your ability at the game.
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@The_Canuckler said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
When a batter swings in real life. Does he adjust for pitch location or just time the pitch and hope it hits his bat?
The advantage of timing is pitch location does not matter and takes out half the chess game of pitcher/batter. I can pound inside fbs in key situations and get my opponent to want to sit up high on fb...and then change location on them and even with good timing of the fb theyd miss due to location. So timing is not the only factor...and try timing a pitch while also moving the pci to get contact. That is inherently harder and should be rewarded more but its not.
RS is for user for user skill. Its set to competitive settings which states that. Then you are rewarded w better players the farther you make it.
Theres no reason for timing/direction only online unless unranked. I wanna know whos hitting hrs while being late w zone? Its a popout almost every time if youre barely above the inner pci and late.
Your last paragraph is so false lol lots of zone hitters have hit late homeruns, I’ve hit plenty.
Also there are a lot of people that play this game that physically can’t use zone because of physical ailments (cerebral palsy, lost arm in a car accident, born without a hand) and those are just a few I’ve seen from people on Facebook
Thank you, people forget about those with disabilities man.
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@tmoneymill_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
Except the % of that actually happening is low. I have a winning record and id bet ive yet to even play a one armed man.
Funny you mention this. I once matched up against the real Jim Abbot. He threw everything right down the middle.
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@StoneColdKevvy_PSN said in Swing interface timing needs to be out of ALL DD Ranked games:
Does anyone else feel like the swing interface "timing" needs to be removed from Diamond Dynasty ranked games? I mean, I thought ranked games were meant to show how skilled someone is, not how well they can sit there and press a button. In my opinion, it needs to be gone from ranked and should only be used in offline or casual games. Thoughts?
We’re all just pressing buttons
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I've been playing MLBTS for years. Over the last two years, I've slowly lost the feeling in my thumb. I can move it, I can feel pressure, I can even type if I'm diligent about my accuracy. I just have no tactile feeling. The cartilage in my neck eroded to the point where some of my nerves were crushed. This caused intense debilitating pain and the need for surgery. Luckily, I will not become paralyzed. I've since had four vertebrae fused together, front and back. A long, painful, intense surgery, that will still need months to years to heal. I still might get most of the feeling back, but since the nerve in my thumb was crushed, it's more likely that longer I have no feeling, the less likely I will be to get any feeling back.
I used to be able to compete online. Never liked it, but I could do events and usually won around 1/3 to 1/2 of the games I played. I can't win at all anymore. If zone and PPP were the only options, I'd have to quit playing. I can't feel the buttons. Which makes me have to pay more attention pressing. Give yourself the stranger and give it a try. I'm thankful my left hand is only slightly desensitized. Gaming would, altogether, be gone if my hands were switched. Timing is not as good as zone. I used to only do zone and now I can't. Timing lets me play DD. We're all hitting more flys. That seems to be the major dysfunction of this year's game.
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