This game is too hard
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@tybud_PSN said in This game is too hard:
So I guess if you were undefeated then the game would be just right?
So tired of you people not wanting any challenges in this game.
Don’t be tired, bro, and don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I should be undefeated, or that the game shouldn’t be challenging. I’m 51-30 and my average is like .230-something. What does that tell you?
I just played a guy who had everyone in his lineup to P5, with tons of homers and RBIs, but his highest batting average was .215 (Charisma Wander Franco). Most guys were between .140-.175 (including WBC Trout).
Take the streamers and goons out of the equation, and nearly everyone struggles to score runs. You think that’s how it should be? Twelve or more strikeouts every game? I don’t think a video game should play like that.
So in other words your hitting stats are on par with some mid to lower tier Major League Baseball clubs. And as you said you’re just about average to just above average player in this game. Am I missing something? Sounds like the game is playing just right for you as far as the skill aspect of the game. Just an unbiased observation here.
Just my opinion, I know some people want this to reflect MLB and be as challenging. To me, it’s a video game. If I want a challenge, I’ll go run a marathon or hike a mountain. That’s not to say I want this to be easy, but it’s really no fun getting two singles and striking out 16 times. That’s my fault, I don’t play enough online to get better because I don’t gather any enjoyment from it. I play this game to escape the rigors of real life.
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@iBonafideScrub_ said in This game is too hard:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@tybud_PSN said in This game is too hard:
So I guess if you were undefeated then the game would be just right?
So tired of you people not wanting any challenges in this game.
Don’t be tired, bro, and don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I should be undefeated, or that the game shouldn’t be challenging. I’m 51-30 and my average is like .230-something. What does that tell you?
I just played a guy who had everyone in his lineup to P5, with tons of homers and RBIs, but his highest batting average was .215 (Charisma Wander Franco). Most guys were between .140-.175 (including WBC Trout).
Take the streamers and goons out of the equation, and nearly everyone struggles to score runs. You think that’s how it should be? Twelve or more strikeouts every game? I don’t think a video game should play like that.
So in other words your hitting stats are on par with some mid to lower tier Major League Baseball clubs. And as you said you’re just about average to just above average player in this game. Am I missing something? Sounds like the game is playing just right for you as far as the skill aspect of the game. Just an unbiased observation here.
My unbiased opinion is that the game is too hard only when connection between players isn’t optimal and that happens more often than not. If SDS manages to fix the connectivity issues and foul balls the game will be so much better
This. Will never happen though. How else will all these streamers go 150-20? Nice to see COD is actually seeing streamers (for the most part) are more of a detriment than help to the game. Connections are the worst they have ever been this early in the year.
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in This game is too hard:
@iBonafideScrub_ said in This game is too hard:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@tybud_PSN said in This game is too hard:
So I guess if you were undefeated then the game would be just right?
So tired of you people not wanting any challenges in this game.
Don’t be tired, bro, and don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I should be undefeated, or that the game shouldn’t be challenging. I’m 51-30 and my average is like .230-something. What does that tell you?
I just played a guy who had everyone in his lineup to P5, with tons of homers and RBIs, but his highest batting average was .215 (Charisma Wander Franco). Most guys were between .140-.175 (including WBC Trout).
Take the streamers and goons out of the equation, and nearly everyone struggles to score runs. You think that’s how it should be? Twelve or more strikeouts every game? I don’t think a video game should play like that.
So in other words your hitting stats are on par with some mid to lower tier Major League Baseball clubs. And as you said you’re just about average to just above average player in this game. Am I missing something? Sounds like the game is playing just right for you as far as the skill aspect of the game. Just an unbiased observation here.
My unbiased opinion is that the game is too hard only when connection between players isn’t optimal and that happens more often than not. If SDS manages to fix the connectivity issues and foul balls the game will be so much better
I agree100% with the connection issues that why I believe that your connection to the game should be tested prior to entering into matchmaking of any sort. If you don’t meet a minimum standard you are returned to the lobby or timed out altogether to reestablish your connection. It’s not hard to implement as other games do this exact thing to maintain connection integrity between players. This would make people take responsibility for their poor connections and force them to fix it or forego the ability to play in head to head matchups. But that just my opinion and you know what opinions are like.
Yes please. I would also like to know if it is a problem with my fiber connection. Already playing other games and watching more TV when I am usually playing this game online.
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Connection issues are definitely a problem. Pitch speeds change drastically game to game.
Consistency with pitch speeds across difficulties would also help. Smaller pci and all that is fine on higher difficulties, but a 100 mph fastball should look the same regardless of the difficulty.
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@The_Canuckler said in This game is too hard:
Now we’re saying all star is too difficult? C’mon now lol did I end up in the twilight zone?
For the average player, yes, I think AS is too difficult. Too many bats miss too many balls. Striking out 15 times every game is discouraging to the average player.
I think people are playing less, and newbies aren’t sticking with it. I find myself waiting too long to get matched in a game for it to be June. I think that is because the average player not only struggles to score runs, but they struggle to even put the ball in play.
Again, I’m doing okay in terms of wins and losses, although I think my offense is bad. But hey, if this is what the community is happy with then so be it. Like I said before, though, if this game gets any more difficult many users are going to walk away.
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in This game is too hard:
@iBonafideScrub_ said in This game is too hard:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@tybud_PSN said in This game is too hard:
So I guess if you were undefeated then the game would be just right?
So tired of you people not wanting any challenges in this game.
Don’t be tired, bro, and don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I should be undefeated, or that the game shouldn’t be challenging. I’m 51-30 and my average is like .230-something. What does that tell you?
I just played a guy who had everyone in his lineup to P5, with tons of homers and RBIs, but his highest batting average was .215 (Charisma Wander Franco). Most guys were between .140-.175 (including WBC Trout).
Take the streamers and goons out of the equation, and nearly everyone struggles to score runs. You think that’s how it should be? Twelve or more strikeouts every game? I don’t think a video game should play like that.
So in other words your hitting stats are on par with some mid to lower tier Major League Baseball clubs. And as you said you’re just about average to just above average player in this game. Am I missing something? Sounds like the game is playing just right for you as far as the skill aspect of the game. Just an unbiased observation here.
My unbiased opinion is that the game is too hard only when connection between players isn’t optimal and that happens more often than not. If SDS manages to fix the connectivity issues and foul balls the game will be so much better
I agree100% with the connection issues that why I believe that your connection to the game should be tested prior to entering into matchmaking of any sort. If you don’t meet a minimum standard you are returned to the lobby or timed out altogether to reestablish your connection. It’s not hard to implement as other games do this exact thing to maintain connection integrity between players. This would make people take responsibility for their poor connections and force them to fix it or forego the ability to play in head to head matchups. But that just my opinion and you know what opinions are like.
mate i completely agree with you on this - its a hot take but i get it
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@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@The_Canuckler said in This game is too hard:
Now we’re saying all star is too difficult? C’mon now lol did I end up in the twilight zone?
For the average player, yes, I think AS is too difficult. Too many bats miss too many balls. Striking out 15 times every game is discouraging to the average player.
I think people are playing less, and newbies aren’t sticking with it. I find myself waiting too long to get matched in a game for it to be June. I think that is because the average player not only struggles to score runs, but they struggle to even put the ball in play.
Again, I’m doing okay in terms of wins and losses, although I think my offense is bad. But hey, if this is what the community is happy with then so be it. Like I said before, though, if this game gets any more difficult many users are going to walk away.
maurice you are a great guy - we all know each other for years - canuckler is skepple i believe - but he is right here - how do you honestly think that AS is too hard? you are a good player from what i remember too
i hardly play due to being an adult with other stuff to do but when i do play i love the game - i am 11-2 in RS and the hitting feels just fine to me
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@TheHungryHole said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@The_Canuckler said in This game is too hard:
Now we’re saying all star is too difficult? C’mon now lol did I end up in the twilight zone?
For the average player, yes, I think AS is too difficult. Too many bats miss too many balls. Striking out 15 times every game is discouraging to the average player.
I think people are playing less, and newbies aren’t sticking with it. I find myself waiting too long to get matched in a game for it to be June. I think that is because the average player not only struggles to score runs, but they struggle to even put the ball in play.
Again, I’m doing okay in terms of wins and losses, although I think my offense is bad. But hey, if this is what the community is happy with then so be it. Like I said before, though, if this game gets any more difficult many users are going to walk away.
maurice you are a great guy - we all know each other for years - canuckler is skepple i believe - but he is right here - how do you honestly think that AS is too hard? you are a good player from what i remember too
i hardly play due to being an adult with other stuff to do but when i do play i love the game - i am 11-2 in RS and the hitting feels just fine to me
Skepple15 to be exact
Ironically I remember how good Maurice was in the good old days. If he is seeing more strikeouts on AS then something is not panning out. I, on the other hand, am seeing many more fouls hit with two strikes despite the fact that the feedback is showing the ball outside the outer PCI ( which was supposedly shrunk this year to induce more strikeouts) which leads me to believe there is something in the sliders that are behind the scenes. I can hit AS all day even with outlier but move me up to HOF and my strikeouts triple per game. For today's casuals though, AS is probably too hard with the pitch speeds, connection speeds etc controlling the game.
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@TheHungryHole said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@The_Canuckler said in This game is too hard:
Now we’re saying all star is too difficult? C’mon now lol did I end up in the twilight zone?
For the average player, yes, I think AS is too difficult. Too many bats miss too many balls. Striking out 15 times every game is discouraging to the average player.
I think people are playing less, and newbies aren’t sticking with it. I find myself waiting too long to get matched in a game for it to be June. I think that is because the average player not only struggles to score runs, but they struggle to even put the ball in play.
Again, I’m doing okay in terms of wins and losses, although I think my offense is bad. But hey, if this is what the community is happy with then so be it. Like I said before, though, if this game gets any more difficult many users are going to walk away.
maurice you are a great guy - we all know each other for years - canuckler is skepple i believe - but he is right here - how do you honestly think that AS is too hard? you are a good player from what i remember too
i hardly play due to being an adult with other stuff to do but when i do play i love the game - i am 11-2 in RS and the hitting feels just fine to me
I really think it is too hard, Hungry. Not necessarily for me; I’m doing better than most of my opponents. But in all the years we’ve played, this version is the hardest. All Star used to be absolute hell. Couldn’t get anyone out. Remember that? It isn’t that way anymore. Far from it.
If you get a chance to play more; get above 50 games played in RS and you’ll see what I’m talking about. You’re a good player, and so is Skepple. I think I’m alright, too. I’m not saying this because I’m struggling. Like I said, this isn’t out of frustration on my part.
But in all my years and experiences playing this game, this version is the hardest to score runs. If that’s good or bad is up to the user, I suppose. Certainly there is a point where a game becomes too difficult to keep the interest of the casual player, right? My point is that this game is in danger of passing that point.
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@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@TheHungryHole said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@The_Canuckler said in This game is too hard:
Now we’re saying all star is too difficult? C’mon now lol did I end up in the twilight zone?
For the average player, yes, I think AS is too difficult. Too many bats miss too many balls. Striking out 15 times every game is discouraging to the average player.
I think people are playing less, and newbies aren’t sticking with it. I find myself waiting too long to get matched in a game for it to be June. I think that is because the average player not only struggles to score runs, but they struggle to even put the ball in play.
Again, I’m doing okay in terms of wins and losses, although I think my offense is bad. But hey, if this is what the community is happy with then so be it. Like I said before, though, if this game gets any more difficult many users are going to walk away.
maurice you are a great guy - we all know each other for years - canuckler is skepple i believe - but he is right here - how do you honestly think that AS is too hard? you are a good player from what i remember too
i hardly play due to being an adult with other stuff to do but when i do play i love the game - i am 11-2 in RS and the hitting feels just fine to me
I really think it is too hard, Hungry. Not necessarily for me; I’m doing better than most of my opponents. But in all the years we’ve played, this version is the hardest. All Star used to be absolute hell. Couldn’t get anyone out. Remember that? It isn’t that way anymore. Far from it.
If you get a chance to play more; get above 50 games played in RS and you’ll see what I’m talking about. You’re a good player, and so is Skepple. I think I’m alright, too. I’m not saying this because I’m struggling. Like I said, this isn’t out of frustration on my part.
But in all my years and experiences playing this game, this version is the hardest to score runs. If that’s good or bad is up to the user, I suppose. Certainly there is a point where a game becomes too difficult to keep the interest of the casual player, right? My point is that this game is in danger of passing that point.
i hear you completely..... fair enough on your position.... i personally hated last year with everything being hits - i like games being hard - maybe i am just a certain type of gamer and in the minority here
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@TheHungryHole said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@The_Canuckler said in This game is too hard:
Now we’re saying all star is too difficult? C’mon now lol did I end up in the twilight zone?
For the average player, yes, I think AS is too difficult. Too many bats miss too many balls. Striking out 15 times every game is discouraging to the average player.
I think people are playing less, and newbies aren’t sticking with it. I find myself waiting too long to get matched in a game for it to be June. I think that is because the average player not only struggles to score runs, but they struggle to even put the ball in play.
Again, I’m doing okay in terms of wins and losses, although I think my offense is bad. But hey, if this is what the community is happy with then so be it. Like I said before, though, if this game gets any more difficult many users are going to walk away.
maurice you are a great guy - we all know each other for years - canuckler is skepple i believe - but he is right here - how do you honestly think that AS is too hard? you are a good player from what i remember too
i hardly play due to being an adult with other stuff to do but when i do play i love the game - i am 11-2 in RS and the hitting feels just fine to me
Skepple15 to be exact
Ironically I remember how good Maurice was in the good old days. If he is seeing more strikeouts on AS then something is not panning out. I, on the other hand, am seeing many more fouls hit with two strikes despite the fact that the feedback is showing the ball outside the outer PCI ( which was supposedly shrunk this year to induce more strikeouts) which leads me to believe there is something in the sliders that are behind the scenes. I can hit AS all day even with outlier but move me up to HOF and my strikeouts triple per game. For today's casuals though, AS is probably too hard with the pitch speeds, connection speeds etc controlling the game.
that's fair buddy i hear you ....
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In the past, the Show 21, I would get destroyed in RS. Now in '23 the worst loss was 5-1. I think hitting has gotten a lot more difficult or I've improved. Depends on perspective.
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@maurice91932_PSN I couldn't possibly agree more! Good argument brother
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@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@tybud_PSN said in This game is too hard:
So I guess if you were undefeated then the game would be just right?
So tired of you people not wanting any challenges in this game.
Don’t be tired, bro, and don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I should be undefeated, or that the game shouldn’t be challenging. I’m 51-30 and my average is like .230-something. What does that tell you?
I just played a guy who had everyone in his lineup to P5, with tons of homers and RBIs, but his highest batting average was .215 (Charisma Wander Franco). Most guys were between .140-.175 (including WBC Trout).
Take the streamers and goons out of the equation, and nearly everyone struggles to score runs. You think that’s how it should be? Twelve or more strikeouts every game? I don’t think a video game should play like that.
You’re on pace to win 102 games if you were a real team playing 162 games and the Dodgers are batting .238 this season. I don’t see a problem here.
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@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
If a pitcher irl gets 12 strikeouts in a game, he’s going to get a Topps Now Moment and a five day supercharge. In RS 12 strikeouts happens every game. But people are going to say nothing is wrong?
Only scrubs get stuck out 12 times a game
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@FRSTDWN_XBL said in This game is too hard:
You're 50 -30 the game isn't too hard.
Right lol most of us are .500 or worse
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I’m average it is kind of hard. But I’m guessing I’m learning it’s a connection thing. I’m not top 100 but each game my hitting seem different. I’m very early on 102 and then late… and my pitching is all random no matter where I put my locator. If people just waited eventually one will float. But all in all I’m not enjoying online. It keeps me away from ranked and I play events but the moonshot event is another unbearable experience for me personally.
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I completely agree with almost all the comments throughout this thread. Especially about how the connection plays a factor. I consider myself an average player. I normally play in the 600's and win more than I lose. I can also put up some decent runs in BR (6-8 wins) and complete the program pretty fast. All of my numbers...win/loss, batting average, etc. say I am doing fine, but it doesn't always feel that way. There is just something about gameplay that is off. (Even though it is better).
It seems to me that PCI alignment is even more important than previous years. I can have good timing and the center dot just be a touch off and that seems to almost translate to hitting something directly at someone. Most of my RS games involve a handful of singles, few doubles and normally a few homers. However 95% of my runs are scored on the homers. If I have a single and then after it have something lined up in the inner PCI with good timing, it almost always is a double play ball or fly out. I just can't pinpoint things, because the numbers add up...it just seems like the way runs are scored does not make for enjoyable gameplay. It also makes me feel like I play worse than I really do. I may have 10+ hits and draw a walk or two, but only score two runs
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@Honor_The_Game44_PSN said in This game is too hard:
I completely agree with almost all the comments throughout this thread. Especially about how the connection plays a factor. I consider myself an average player. I normally play in the 600's and win more than I lose. I can also put up some decent runs in BR (6-8 wins) and complete the program pretty fast. All of my numbers...win/loss, batting average, etc. say I am doing fine, but it doesn't always feel that way. There is just something about gameplay that is off. (Even thought it is better).
It seems to me that PCI alignment is even more important than previous years. I can have good timing and the center dot just be a touch off and that seems to almost translate to hitting something directly at someone. Most of my RS games involve a handful of singles, few doubles and normally a few homers. However 95% of my runs are scored on the homers. If I have a single and then after it have something lined up in the inner PCI with good timing, it almost always is a double play ball or fly out. I just can't pinpoint things, because the numbers add up...it just seems like the way runs are scored does not make for enjoyable gameplay. It also makes me feel like I play worse than I really do. I may have 10+ hits and draw a walk or two, but only score two runs
I know exactly what you mean.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@maurice91932_PSN said in This game is too hard:
@tybud_PSN said in This game is too hard:
So I guess if you were undefeated then the game would be just right?
So tired of you people not wanting any challenges in this game.
Don’t be tired, bro, and don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say I should be undefeated, or that the game shouldn’t be challenging. I’m 51-30 and my average is like .230-something. What does that tell you?
I just played a guy who had everyone in his lineup to P5, with tons of homers and RBIs, but his highest batting average was .215 (Charisma Wander Franco). Most guys were between .140-.175 (including WBC Trout).
Take the streamers and goons out of the equation, and nearly everyone struggles to score runs. You think that’s how it should be? Twelve or more strikeouts every game? I don’t think a video game should play like that.
You’re on pace to win 102 games if you were a real team playing 162 games and the Dodgers are batting .238 this season. I don’t see a problem here.
You actually helped make my point. The Dodgers aren’t on pace to win 102 games. They’re 44-34, on pace for 91 wins (.564). A 102-60 record is .629
So, I hit just as poorly as the Dodgers, yet in this game I win significantly more than the Dodgers.
