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  • ShowProdigy_MLBTSS Offline
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    I still see people posting about troubles they may be having against other opponents in online games. Sometimes really seeming to be depressed at perceived inadequacy

    Typically it's all about how to hit the ball. Some are really getting down on themselves that they can't. Or, they don't hit a home run every game or whatever. Please don't, it's not your fault.

    This game is essentially a "shell-game" in that the feedback produced by the animation in the PCI (where the ball is pitched) is controlled by the code. The "too early", "too late", etc. is controlled by the AI and seldom is representative of the true physics of your AB. The ball will change directions from the time you pick it up until it comes into the zone in a trajectory the code predetermines. for example, the initial trajectory coming out of the pitcher's hand is a ruse...the code decides what the resulting pitch will be *what type and where it ultimately ends up in the PCI).
    The "whack" of a very hard hit ball or "thud" of a dud are nothing more than audio generated by the AI to support it's outcome.

    All based on parity for the most part. Meaning, the game is designed so everyone wins/loses to pretty much the same degree. It's fun to play through a game when you win, not so much when you lose. But, regardless of whether you win or lose..either you or your opponent are being "cheated" and manipulated by the AI created outcomes.

    So, when you see threads out here mentioning, in tones of reverence, all these "super great" players that hit everything..it's not true. The game is not designed in a manner that simulates true competitive play in which some folks (that perhaps actually have advanced reflexes and eye-hand coordination) aren't going to have any better shake at it than the average Joe.

    So, don't sweat it. Everyone that plays this game is subject to the same automated outcomes. Regardless of your record right now, it's almost guaranteed that the games inherent spin towards parity will start giving you the breaks and "home-run whack" audio more often to ensure you are around .500.

    The game, like most of the genre, are based on engaging players (paying customers) by keeping them near the middle and creating false rumors (and pretty elaborate and staged standings with simple code generation) of these seemingly ridiculously good players. Gives the customers something to aspire for. Regardless of whether it's a complete ruse or not.

    You will never have a 100-5 record, or whatever. Because those only exist in the game-generated phantom-world. Take solace and be happy with your 20-25, 10-15, 15-10 or 30-30 record. That's what the real customers will typically peak out with a slight deviation high or low.

    Above all, don't get down on yourself because you're playing against a stacked deck. Enjoy the game, but understand what it is.

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  • theBlindRhino_PSNT Offline
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    How do you explain my 158 - 5 RS record then?

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    How do you explain the current top player having a ranked record of 144-16?

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    @theBlindRhino said in Don't give up:

    How do you explain my 158 - 5 RS record then?

    Easy explanation, you win 158 games and lost 5.

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    Yeah, I don’t like admitting when I’m bad at things either.

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    Did chatgpi type this?

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    Alot of what the OP is saying is true…The game is coded & matchmaking is setup aimed at making the vast majority of players to be right around.500 or slightly better than .500, This range is what makes people keep grinding or buying stubs because “If I just had Chipper & Pedro then I could make WS”…However there are players that are so good that they are able to overcome it. I say this because I played the best player in the world & he was able to just demolish everything I threw at him, It was unlike any of the other losses I’ve had…He had incredible vision - Never swung at a single pitch out of the zone & everything he did swing at was gone…He was just on a different level. Those guys are not fake lol, They are just that good.

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  • doobiebross66-72_PSND Offline
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    I used to take this game way too seriously. I got hooked into DD back in 17, and being a highly competitive person that loves baseball, I would get way too upset over the outcome of some games.

    I’ve told myself, who gives a flying [censored] if you lose? Hardly no one outside my wife and a few friends/family know I play this game let alone care. This doesn’t make money for me, doesn’t determine the next meal for my family so I’ve gone into H2H play this year more relaxed

    Maybe recency bias, but, I’ve never had as much fun in DD since 17 playing with a relaxed mindset…or at least trying to at all times

    We all get frustrated. But no reason to let this game dictate or control your emotions. If it’s that bad for you, seriously consider playing something else for your mental well-being

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  • Bob_Loblaw1984_PSNB Offline
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    First, nobody should “be down on themselves” over a video game. If they are, there are bigger issues at hand.

    Second, if someone wants to get better, they have the agency to do so. Blaming some external source for failure is not healthy and leads to bad outcomes generally.

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    @Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Don't give up:

    First, nobody should “be down on themselves” over a video game. If they are, there are bigger issues at hand.

    Second, if someone wants to get better, they have the agency to do so. Blaming some external source for failure is not healthy and leads to bad outcomes generally.

    Agreed.

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    If you want to be sarcastic about what I wrote..that's fine. But, for you gatekeepers and game-pals, lay off the how-to's of how to get better at a game that is 90% pre-defined outcomes.

    If you want to keep suggesting there are actually real people that can "bypass" code-generated outcomes by sheer skill and reach a 100-14 record or whatever..it sorta makes you the [censored] of the joke. I agree there are standings that "show" players with ridiculously high win %, but you would have to be 12 or have the naivety of a 12-year old to believe those are legit and not just more manipulation generated by code.

    I'm just trying to do a public service here. I'm not slamming the game or saying don't buy it. I'm just stating what most of us know that have played it a few seasons. The AI and code is gonna do what it's gonna do. And all the skill in the world ain't going to change that.

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    Its not 90% predetermined. You still have to put pci on ball and depending how well you can place pci and time it the more likely you get a favorable outcome.

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    @ShowProdigy_MLBTS

    How does one “manipulate” the code to win. Please, be specific.

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    @Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Don't give up:

    @ShowProdigy_MLBTS said in Don't give up:

    If you want to be sarcastic about what I wrote..that's fine. But, for you gatekeepers and game-pals, lay off the how-to's of how to get better at a game that is 90% pre-defined outcomes.

    If you want to keep suggesting there are actually real people that can "bypass" code-generated outcomes by sheer skill and reach a 100-14 record or whatever..it sorta makes you the [censored] of the joke. I agree there are standings that "show" players with ridiculously high win %, but you would have to be 12 or have the naivety of a 12-year old to believe those are legit and not just more manipulation generated by code.

    I'm just trying to do a public service here. I'm not slamming the game or saying don't buy it. I'm just stating what most of us know that have played it a few seasons. The AI and code is gonna do what it's gonna do. And all the skill in the world ain't going to change that.

    How does one “manipulate” the code to win. Please, be specific.

    One doesn't..my point. The code, amigo, manipulates us all. We just hold our controller (or whatever you're holding) in our laps, move the stick around, hit a button, and hope the AI decides to give positive results. It's much like a slot machine to be honest.

    So, I'll believe there are "really" players that go 100-14 if anyone can produce a slot-machine gambler that has a similar record. It's the same level randomness.

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  • Bob_Loblaw1984_PSNB Offline
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    @ShowProdigy_MLBTS

    Interesting “logic.”

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    @PurpleTRD_PSN said in Don't give up:

    Its not 90% predetermined. You still have to put pci on ball and depending how well you can place pci and time it the more likely you get a favorable outcome.

    Well, sometimes where you put the pci does matter. I'll give you that. I've found that about 1/3 of the time the pci doesn't even respond to movement. It just sits dead middle. About 2/3 of the other swings it moves where you intentionally put it in the path of a bad swing.

    Maybe, perhaps, the other third you legitimately get the pci exactly where you intended it to go on a ball in the zone. Then it really gets dicey as to whether the AI (code randomizer) decides to give feedback that you were "too late", "too early", etc., etc., etc. But when whatever funky algorithm the designers use to give you the nod..it will take your perfectly placed pci and perfectly timed strike of the "X" button on PS5 and gives you the resounding "whack" of a hard hit ball. Sometimes even the old random perfect/perfect. And, if you're really lucky and the AI is being kind that perfect/perfect won't be hit directly at a fielder.

    I just played a game where a guy was pitching Catfish Hunter and for 3 innings and he was throwing 100mph fastballs all over the heart and high in the zone. I couldn't touch it no matter where I had my PCI or timed the ball. Suddenly, in the 4th inning I couldn't miss it. I was just half-azzed swinging at his pitches (and he was only up to about 40) and nailing everything. 5 runs later and putting his 2 run advantage in the rearview mirror..he quit, I really had empathy for him because I'm sure he was saying wtf just like I was.

    Ya see most of us will admit the messed up stuff happens in our favor as much as not in our favor. Which is exactly why no one should get shook if they are not able to hit the ball, or do on a homerun draught, The code will eventually check a counter and take the path that you have success and your poor opponent turns into a minor leaguer.

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    Regardless…this game is trash.

    I’m starting to believe this guy more and more because of some of the nonsense I see playing it.

    Idk for sure how random hitting is…but I can tell you what I know for sure is random…BUNTING.

    Try to place a well-timed, strategic bunt with a card with high bunt ratings…good luck. Especially in a crucial situation.

    Try to place a squeeze bunt in extra innings with a card with low bunt ratings after you’ve struck out 20 times….oh…that’s gonna be the greatest bunt in the history of baseball.

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    @BrikMahorn_XBL said in Don't give up:

    Regardless…this game is trash.

    I’m starting to believe this guy more and more because of some of the nonsense I see playing it.

    Idk for sure how random hitting is…but I can tell you what I know for sure is random…BUNTING.

    Try to place a well-timed, strategic bunt with a card with high bunt ratings…good luck. Especially in a crucial situation.

    Try to place a squeeze bunt in extra innings with a card with low bunt ratings after you’ve struck out 20 times….oh…that’s gonna be the greatest bunt in the history of baseball.

    Bunting has always been a roulette wheel spin. Maybe there is some sort of strategy (where/when you move your stick) but I've never figured out how to control it.

    So, I generally just stay away from it. I mean, it's like everything else in the game..when it's your turn to have a positive outcome the code is going to generate that favorable animation for you.

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    I bet the op is fun at a party.

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    @doobiebross66-72 said in Don't give up:

    I used to take this game way too seriously. I got hooked into DD back in 17, and being a highly competitive person that loves baseball, I would get way too upset over the outcome of some games.

    I’ve told myself, who gives a flying [censored] if you lose? Hardly no one outside my wife and a few friends/family know I play this game let alone care. This doesn’t make money for me, doesn’t determine the next meal for my family so I’ve gone into H2H play this year more relaxed

    Maybe recency bias, but, I’ve never had as much fun in DD since 17 playing with a relaxed mindset…or at least trying to at all times

    We all get frustrated. But no reason to let this game dictate or control your emotions. If it’s that bad for you, seriously consider playing something else for your mental well-being

    This is exactly how I feel. Started in '17 and would be stressed and be in bad mood if I lost a few games or if I felt I got screwed by rng. I tell myself it's about enjoying my time now everytime I turn on the game.
    In my 40s, I can really see the hand/eye coordination decline year after year.

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