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You can also add LADodgers Bisons to the cheeser list. His entire lineup is bunt/steal cheese. I just save myself the aggravation and quit on him. Let him have his cheap win since SDS won't fix a blatantly broken exploit.
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
You can also add LADodgers Bisons to the cheeser list. His entire lineup is bunt/steal cheese. I just save myself the aggravation and quit on him. Let him have his cheap win since SDS won't fix a blatantly broken exploit.
It's not that they don't want to, it's because they legitimately don't know how to fix it. They've been trying to balance the bunt mechanic for years, but it's either stupidly overpowered or completely ineffective.
Sometimes you lay down the perfect bunt on a pitch that's at eye level or in the dirt, and other times you pop up or bunt foul a pitch right down the middle. That's what incompetent devs will get you, they can't fix it.
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@raesONE-_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
@darkblue1876_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
You can also add LADodgers Bisons to the cheeser list. His entire lineup is bunt/steal cheese. I just save myself the aggravation and quit on him. Let him have his cheap win since SDS won't fix a blatantly broken exploit.
It's not that they don't want to, it's because they legitimately don't know how to fix it. They've been trying to balance the bunt mechanic for years, but it's either stupidly overpowered or completely ineffective.
Sometimes you lay down the perfect bunt on a pitch that's at eye level or in the dirt, and other times you pop up or bunt foul a pitch right down the middle. That's what incompetent devs will get you, they can't fix it.
this is absolutely true mate
i never bunt because i feel its broken at its core - based on what you just said
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@TheHungryHole said in Terrible opponent:
i never bunt because i feel its broken at its core
I think that's why I get so mad at the cheesers. They spent all their time learning how to bunt and won't do anything else. I can't even legit bunt with a pitcher trying to move a runner over.
FYI the cheeser I played was a 700 level player, so it's clear that he has mastered the exploit and will never play like a normal human ever again.
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@WAH1447_XBL said in Terrible opponent:
Team name: Miami testiculators
I have played my fair share of horrible opponents this guy takes the win as the worst, constantly doing the bunt cheese, cheap bunts, constant quick pitch, watching home runs replays anything that makes a toxic opponent this guy did. He starts out the game hitting a home run watches the replay then hits one a few batters later does the same thing, meanwhile doing the bunt cheese thing constantly. I come back and in the top of the 6th I take him back to back, I proceed to return the favor of watching my home run replays and after the last home run it got to much for him and he quit. These type of people make online play absolutely horrible, but just in case you see this hahahahahahahahahaha you are a joke. Anyways for anyone that sees this don’t be like this guy, it ruins the online experience, majority of this nonsense drags the game on and just makes online play terrible.
He did you a favor by quitting early. Aren't you grateful?
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@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
He did you a favor by quitting early. Aren't you grateful?
I understand your point, and I won't speak for OP, but personally these cheesers are a detriment to an enjoyable experience. If I had any say they would at BEST be banished to their own division where they would only play cheesers like themselves, but I would prefer permanent bans.
I know its pretty extreme, but how many people who were new to the game, experienced this a couple of times when they started right away and quit, never to return again?
How much money does it cost SDS in new sales vs. the money the cheesers spend on microtransactions? Based on the level of cheating they still do I suspect that the cheesers spend the most, which is why they are allowed to use their dirty tactics.
While it doesn't help me personally, but I wish I could see these "players" get what they deserve when they face a 900 level player.
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
@NCStateHokie_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
He did you a favor by quitting early. Aren't you grateful?
I understand your point, and I won't speak for OP, but personally these cheesers are a detriment to an enjoyable experience. If I had any say they would at BEST be banished to their own division where they would only play cheesers like themselves, but I would prefer permanent bans.
I know its pretty extreme, but how many people who were new to the game, experienced this a couple of times when they started right away and quit, never to return again?
How much money does it cost SDS in new sales vs. the money the cheesers spend on microtransactions? Based on the level of cheating they still do I suspect that the cheesers spend the most, which is why they are allowed to use their dirty tactics.
While it doesn't help me personally, but I wish I could see these "players" get what they deserve when they face a 900 level player.
What drives me nuts is when I legitimately am going to bunt the game seems to take it away. Lots of fouls on balls down the middle just advancing the runner. It is annoying
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I still not get it why replaying is toxic. It is prox 30 seconds and happens few times per game (at most). I do replay some (but only the good not the cheap exit velo ones) HRs and I do not mind my opponents do it. It „prolongs“ a game about 2-3 minutes at most. If I take lots of pitches, it takes more time, think about that.
To me it is the same with real-life-bat-flips, which also annoys lots of people and I do not get that too.
EDIT: What is annoying in my oppinion: Bunt dancing So is diving in the outfield on high popus and drag bunting with guys like Frank Thomas (which is more of an exploit).
Another annoying thing is hitting multiple Batters on purpose.
So do not get me wrong. I do not understand the annoying thing about replays and the only thing I hear is: „The community does not like it“ -
There is no greater joy than beating an idiot.
"Idiot" is the word we older folks used before the less offensive "toxic".
We also used "[censored]" to note a person or action that was "[censored]"."That player was toxic and he played with a questionable strategy." -2022
"Dude, that idiot played like a total [censored], what with his shenanigans." -1993 -
@YOSHI24_MLBTS said in Terrible opponent:
I still not get it why replaying is toxic. It is prox 30 seconds and happens few times per game (at most). I do replay some (but only the good not the cheap exit velo ones) HRs and I do not mind my opponents do it. It „prolongs“ a game about 2-3 minutes at most. If I take lots of pitches, it takes more time, think about that.
To me it is the same with real-life-bat-flips, which also annoys lots of people and I do not get that too.
EDIT: What is annoying in my oppinion: Bunt dancing So is diving in the outfield on high popus and drag bunting with guys like Frank Thomas (which is more of an exploit).
Another annoying thing is hitting multiple Batters on purpose.
So do not get me wrong. I do not understand the annoying thing about replays and the only thing I hear is: „The community does not like it“Regarding highlights, I can't speak for anyone else, but to me it's rubbing the other guys nose in it. You can flex on your own time and watch the post game highlight reel. It's doubly infuriating when its a 95 MPH exit velocity and barely clears the wall.
I don't care about in game bat flips, but in real life it's showboating, and perhaps instead of working on how cool their bat flip is, perhaps they could learn some plate discipline and maybe in 2023 we can have more than 10 guys above .300 for MLB. They should act like they are professionals. They are supposed to be able to hit home runs.
Regarding the diving and what I call "field cheesing" is just dumb in my opinion. It does not bother me at all.
I will openly admit that on a few occasions I have gone on tilt for massive bunt cheesers getting rewarded and since SDS won't fix the issue, nor let us self police it's the only way I can get a little satisfaction. Admittedly it's childish, and I don't do it very often.
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@darkblue1876_PSN Thanks for the feedback. I am with you in this „rubbing the nose on a 95mph bad exit-velo-HR“.
But: In my oppinion you guys get into it too much and the same goes with real-life-„Hey, you showed me off“. It leads to lots of frustration (which has what purpose?) and injuries (retaliation Hit-by-pitches), that benefit no one.
I get your point but … to me, trying not to be disrespectful: A replay of my HR is something for me and not against you. Maybe try to view it that way and lower the frustration/hate-level
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@YOSHI24_MLBTS said in Terrible opponent:
I get your point but … to me, trying not to be disrespectful: A replay of my HR is something for me and not against you. Maybe try to view it that way and lower the frustration/hate-level
I get your point, but 99% of the people who highlight reel me are totally toxic. You can see it in their gameplay. I know I cannot accurately describe this in a post, but if you are smart enough to tell who is toxic and who is not I think you will understand.
I won't be playing 22 or 23 partly because I am frustrated that SDS hasn't and probably never will fix the exploits or reign in the cheesers, but mostly because I still have so much to do in my other versions of the game, but they should just remove the highlight replay from online play.
Removes all possibility of toxic players abusing it.
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Online play is just not worth the frustration to me anymore. I’ve been a 98% offline player for the last two game cycles and I can’t imagine ever going back. Mini Seasons is so much more fun and so much less aggravating than RS. I would much rather enjoy my time playing offline, flip a little when things are slow at work, and then buy RS/Events/BR rewards on the market.
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
@TheHungryHole said in Terrible opponent:
i never bunt because i feel its broken at its core
I think that's why I get so mad at the cheesers. They spent all their time learning how to bunt and won't do anything else. I can't even legit bunt with a pitcher trying to move a runner over.
FYI the cheeser I played was a 700 level player, so it's clear that he has mastered the exploit and will never play like a normal human ever again.
mate pitch high and away - or super low in the dirt - this always screws him over and i can even K guys who are trying to bunt play - i hope this helps you
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People act this way in online gameplay because they can't get punched in the mouth. It's that way with every game. People are super brave and love to be a troll when there is zero consequences. I don't replay HR's, I can do that after the game. Only time I bunt is with a pitcher and even then it's rare. We should be able to record our gameplay and be able to post how toxic people are and call them out. If you don't want to be called out, don't cheese.
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@TheHungryHole said in Terrible opponent:
mate pitch high and away - or super low in the dirt
I did try these. I had the defense set up as recommended, but I could pitch below the zone, high and inside way inside, low and outside, high out of the zone, it just didn't matter.
Every single bunt found the sweet spot on the field. I find it hard to believe that someone could possibly get that lucky that many times in a row
Sometimes I can hold them off for a while, but until I can become a better hitter I won't be able to outlast them until I can get enough runs to make them quit.
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@TexasTauper_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
We should be able to record our gameplay and be able to post how toxic people are and call them out. If you don't want to be called out, don't cheese.
Thank you. My sentiments exactly. There should be a way to report cheesing, just like when you can report a player with an inappropriate logo, etc.
SDS can then review the players game history. If they find that every game has this in the game summary:
Team X batting in first inning:
Player 1 bunted for a single
Player 2 bunted for a single.
Player 3 bunted, runners advance.
Player 4 bunted, runners advance
Player 5 bunted for a single. runners advance
Player 6 bunted and so on they can see it's a legit gripe.They should either be banished to their own little bunt cheese division or given permanent bans.
Also, anyone fake reporting someone just because they lost can be punished extremely harshly too.
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in Terrible opponent:
@TheHungryHole said in Terrible opponent:
mate pitch high and away - or super low in the dirt
I did try these. I had the defense set up as recommended, but I could pitch below the zone, high and inside way inside, low and outside, high out of the zone, it just didn't matter.
Every single bunt found the sweet spot on the field. I find it hard to believe that someone could possibly get that lucky that many times in a row
Sometimes I can hold them off for a while, but until I can become a better hitter I won't be able to outlast them until I can get enough runs to make them quit.
unreal mate wow !!!! have a great NY
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@TheHungryHole said in Terrible opponent:
unreal mate wow !!!! have a great NY
Thanks. Hoping you have an awesome new year too..
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