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  • halfbutt_PSNH Offline
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    So I’m noticing the cpu seems to like throwing right on right circle changeups down and away…

    Is this even a thing? I can’t remember ever seeing a pitcher irl do this. Right on left? Yes. Left on right, yes.

    Am I imagining this or is this pitch extremely physics defying?

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    What’s physics defying about it? It’s just a good pitch/location. Looks like it’s gonna hit the corner and be an easy pitch to drive then drops just below the zone for either a swing and miss or weak contact.
    Also most people probably won’t remember this name since he wasn’t a dominant guy but Dillon Gee with the Mets used to love getting righties out with the low away change up.

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    Circle change moves arm side though. How do you stand on the third base side of the rubber, throw across your body so the ball goes away from a righty, but also turn the ball over with your thumb down?

    I just don’t think the natural trajectory of the ball coming out of a right handed pitcher’s hand and going arm side would make this possible, or more importantly without being seen by the hitter…

    I don’t know. Any pitchers care to comment?

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    @halfbutt_PSN said in Right on right changeups:

    Circle change moves arm side though. How do you stand on the third base side of the rubber, throw across your body so the ball goes away from a righty, but also turn the ball over with your thumb down?

    I just don’t think the natural trajectory of the ball coming out of a right handed pitcher’s hand and going arm side would make this possible, or more importantly without being seen by the hitter…

    I don’t know. Any pitchers care to comment?

    If I remember correctly the reason it worked for Gee was because he worked off the first base side of the mound.

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    @halfbutt_PSN said in Right on right changeups:

    Circle change moves arm side though. How do you stand on the third base side of the rubber, throw across your body so the ball goes away from a righty, but also turn the ball over with your thumb down?

    I just don’t think the natural trajectory of the ball coming out of a right handed pitcher’s hand and going arm side would make this possible, or more importantly without being seen by the hitter…

    I don’t know. Any pitchers care to comment?

    You throw it in the batters box and itcomes back into the zone(like a 2 seamer).
    Glavine was notorious for doing this to righties

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    its not super rare, I know of college teams that did it a lot. It really just depends on the pitcher. If it works for them they will do it (Ala glavine and id assume maddux as well.)

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    pitching location and selection this game is not consistent with real life....just look at online play

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  • jonblaze2424_PSNJ Offline
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    It’s not rare at all. It’s similar to throwing a “back door” two seamer to a righty….the thought is to draw weak contact to the right side.

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    Interesting. Good comments, gentlemen.

    So I assume, in Glavine’s case, we are talking about him throwing it left on left?

    I can see the left on right thing for sure.

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    Kyle Hendricks does it all the time.

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