Judge is the GOAT?
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It's pretty funny to see all those diks with their I-phones to record walks and deep fly outs for nothing 🤪
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@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@SchnauzerFace_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
I love Judge and I hope he wins the triple crown. His HR chase has been very good for baseball. He and Pujols have managed to take a little focus off the Tatis story, so that's very good. But even with the insane season he's having, I still would lean toward Ohtani for MVP. Obviously he's having a great season on both sides of the ball. And the ripple effect of only having to use one roster spot for an ace and a DH is nuts. That means you can have an extra starter to stretch out your rotation, or carry a 3rd catcher, or have a Terence Gore type player on the bench whose only job is to steal bags. That kind of roster flexibility is something no one else in the league can provide.
And to put it further into perspective, Ohtani is having a very, very comparable offensive year to Austin Riley, and he also has very comparable pitching numbers to Alek Manoah (though Manoah does have 35 more IP, which is a big deal). So he really does have the value of two all-star players. Judge is having an absolutely nutso year and will almost certainly win the MVP, but I don't think Ohtani should be forgotten (even if his team could end up in 4th place).
If Ohtani wins MVP with the year Judge is having, they should just make a separate award for Shohei. Ohtani is a phenomenal talent and we will never see anything like him again, but Judge is probably going to break the non-juiced single season homerun record. Judge is having one of the best non Bonds or Ruth offensive seasons ever. It's just really not fair to anyone if they just give the MVP to Ohtani every year. Hall of fame voters don't give 2 spits about who wins the Hank Aaron award. Ohtani might literally be taking some guys out of the hall just for existing. (Not saying Judge is a hall of famer per se, just that if Ohtani does this for 10 years and wins 9 or 10 MVP awards, he's weakening other players HOF' cases)
Not sure about non-juiced. Drugging is always three steps ahead of testing. Then the balls are certainly juiced. And finally he's playing in a little league field.
Still a great player and a great season.
You do realize that if he played all of his games at the same stadium…there are 7 stadiums where he would have MORE home runs than he does at Yankee Stadium. Also more than half the fields in the mlb still have him at 58+…..so your “little league” remark is just idiotic
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@jonblaze2424_PSN said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@SchnauzerFace_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
I love Judge and I hope he wins the triple crown. His HR chase has been very good for baseball. He and Pujols have managed to take a little focus off the Tatis story, so that's very good. But even with the insane season he's having, I still would lean toward Ohtani for MVP. Obviously he's having a great season on both sides of the ball. And the ripple effect of only having to use one roster spot for an ace and a DH is nuts. That means you can have an extra starter to stretch out your rotation, or carry a 3rd catcher, or have a Terence Gore type player on the bench whose only job is to steal bags. That kind of roster flexibility is something no one else in the league can provide.
And to put it further into perspective, Ohtani is having a very, very comparable offensive year to Austin Riley, and he also has very comparable pitching numbers to Alek Manoah (though Manoah does have 35 more IP, which is a big deal). So he really does have the value of two all-star players. Judge is having an absolutely nutso year and will almost certainly win the MVP, but I don't think Ohtani should be forgotten (even if his team could end up in 4th place).
If Ohtani wins MVP with the year Judge is having, they should just make a separate award for Shohei. Ohtani is a phenomenal talent and we will never see anything like him again, but Judge is probably going to break the non-juiced single season homerun record. Judge is having one of the best non Bonds or Ruth offensive seasons ever. It's just really not fair to anyone if they just give the MVP to Ohtani every year. Hall of fame voters don't give 2 spits about who wins the Hank Aaron award. Ohtani might literally be taking some guys out of the hall just for existing. (Not saying Judge is a hall of famer per se, just that if Ohtani does this for 10 years and wins 9 or 10 MVP awards, he's weakening other players HOF' cases)
Not sure about non-juiced. Drugging is always three steps ahead of testing. Then the balls are certainly juiced. And finally he's playing in a little league field.
Still a great player and a great season.
You do realize that if he played all of his games at the same stadium…there are 7 stadiums where he would have MORE home runs than he does at Yankee Stadium. Also more than half the fields in the mlb still have him at 58+…..so your “little league” remark is just idiotic
Lol, "idiotic." Okay buddy. I'm not weighing my words in a scale...
So, in 23 stadiums he'd have fewer HR, then? Hmmmm...
The general point still obtains. I'll rewrite so you don't get all bent out of shape: "He plays in a very HR-hitter-friendly stadium."
Some people in forums...sheesh.
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@Possum80_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
I think future generations will be baffled that we did not recognize Bonds as the “GOAT.” He needs to be in the HOF
He probably would be if he didn’t … well, you know. On the other side they have let in at least one player I can think of who did what Bonds did, just no where near the extreme as Bonds. Not that it makes it okay for anyone.
Even with the help, he is not the GOAT, and because of generational differences, it’s hard to say who is. Baseball is not game where personal accolades help that much. Plus there is no Michael Jordan who there isn’t anyone else in the conversation. -
@SakAttack87_PSN said in Judge is the GOAT?:
I mean how do we know Ohtani isn't juicing? Or Pujols? Or Trout?
One of these names is/was absolutely connected to PEDs. Now I have no proof that this player ever did; but, even if he didn’t, his name will always be connected with them. It is unfortunate.
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@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@jonblaze2424_PSN said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Judge is the GOAT?:
@SchnauzerFace_MLBTS said in Judge is the GOAT?:
I love Judge and I hope he wins the triple crown. His HR chase has been very good for baseball. He and Pujols have managed to take a little focus off the Tatis story, so that's very good. But even with the insane season he's having, I still would lean toward Ohtani for MVP. Obviously he's having a great season on both sides of the ball. And the ripple effect of only having to use one roster spot for an ace and a DH is nuts. That means you can have an extra starter to stretch out your rotation, or carry a 3rd catcher, or have a Terence Gore type player on the bench whose only job is to steal bags. That kind of roster flexibility is something no one else in the league can provide.
And to put it further into perspective, Ohtani is having a very, very comparable offensive year to Austin Riley, and he also has very comparable pitching numbers to Alek Manoah (though Manoah does have 35 more IP, which is a big deal). So he really does have the value of two all-star players. Judge is having an absolutely nutso year and will almost certainly win the MVP, but I don't think Ohtani should be forgotten (even if his team could end up in 4th place).
If Ohtani wins MVP with the year Judge is having, they should just make a separate award for Shohei. Ohtani is a phenomenal talent and we will never see anything like him again, but Judge is probably going to break the non-juiced single season homerun record. Judge is having one of the best non Bonds or Ruth offensive seasons ever. It's just really not fair to anyone if they just give the MVP to Ohtani every year. Hall of fame voters don't give 2 spits about who wins the Hank Aaron award. Ohtani might literally be taking some guys out of the hall just for existing. (Not saying Judge is a hall of famer per se, just that if Ohtani does this for 10 years and wins 9 or 10 MVP awards, he's weakening other players HOF' cases)
Not sure about non-juiced. Drugging is always three steps ahead of testing. Then the balls are certainly juiced. And finally he's playing in a little league field.
Still a great player and a great season.
You do realize that if he played all of his games at the same stadium…there are 7 stadiums where he would have MORE home runs than he does at Yankee Stadium. Also more than half the fields in the mlb still have him at 58+…..so your “little league” remark is just idiotic
Lol, "idiotic." Okay buddy. I'm not weighing my words in a scale...
So, in 23 stadiums he'd have fewer HR, then? Hmmmm...
The general point still obtains. I'll rewrite so you don't get all bent out of shape: "He plays in a very HR-hitter-friendly stadium."
Some people in forums...sheesh.
just because 7 would be more doesnt make the others less and it would be 22 you wouldnt count the one you are comparing to.
As for yankee stadium- if it were so homer friendly why is this only the 2nd time a player that called it home has reached this plateau in the 90+years that ruth did it?
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