Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy
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@Kovz88_MLBTS said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Regarding the HOF to me MLB doesn't really have a leg to stand on keeping steroid guys out. They loved steroids when it was bringing interest to the game then they realized they could just juice the balls instead.
The MLB isn't keeping those guys out though. It's the reporters who got their feelings hurt by Barry Bonds 20 years ago
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@the_dragon1912 said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@Kovz88_MLBTS said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Regarding the HOF to me MLB doesn't really have a leg to stand on keeping steroid guys out. They loved steroids when it was bringing interest to the game then they realized they could just juice the balls instead.
The MLB isn't keeping those guys out though. It's the reporters who got their feelings hurt by Barry Bonds 20 years ago
True, I've always hated the way the HOF is set up. Some people won't vote for guys for the dumbest reasons. It's like the guy who said deGrom didn't deserve the Cy Young a few years ago because he has a low win total.
I'm not smart enough to come up with a better way of doing it but there has to be some sort of standard like certain milestones/stats are HOF level and the fringe guys or guys that had short dominant careers are the ones that get put in by a vote.
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@Kovz88_MLBTS said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@the_dragon1912 said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@Kovz88_MLBTS said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Regarding the HOF to me MLB doesn't really have a leg to stand on keeping steroid guys out. They loved steroids when it was bringing interest to the game then they realized they could just juice the balls instead.
The MLB isn't keeping those guys out though. It's the reporters who got their feelings hurt by Barry Bonds 20 years ago
True, I've always hated the way the HOF is set up. Some people won't vote for guys for the dumbest reasons. It's like the guy who said deGrom didn't deserve the Cy Young a few years ago because he has a low win total.
I'm not smart enough to come up with a better way of doing it but there has to be some sort of standard like certain milestones/stats are HOF level and the fringe guys or guys that had short dominant careers are the ones that get put in by a vote.
I mean some milestones are somewhat automatic. 500 HRs everyone is in but steroid guys, Miggy and Pujols who both will be. 3000 Hits is the same deal but add Ichiro and Beltre to the Miggy/ Pujols list and Rose. 3000 Strikeouts all in but Clemens, Schilling, Scherzer, Verlander, and Sabathia(Sabathia is a really interesting one)
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@the_dragon1912 said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@Kovz88_MLBTS said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@the_dragon1912 said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@Kovz88_MLBTS said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Regarding the HOF to me MLB doesn't really have a leg to stand on keeping steroid guys out. They loved steroids when it was bringing interest to the game then they realized they could just juice the balls instead.
The MLB isn't keeping those guys out though. It's the reporters who got their feelings hurt by Barry Bonds 20 years ago
True, I've always hated the way the HOF is set up. Some people won't vote for guys for the dumbest reasons. It's like the guy who said deGrom didn't deserve the Cy Young a few years ago because he has a low win total.
I'm not smart enough to come up with a better way of doing it but there has to be some sort of standard like certain milestones/stats are HOF level and the fringe guys or guys that had short dominant careers are the ones that get put in by a vote.
I mean some milestones are somewhat automatic. 500 HRs everyone is in but steroid guys, Miggy and Pujols who both will be. 3000 Hits is the same deal but add Ichiro and Beltre to the Miggy/ Pujols list and Rose. 3000 Strikeouts all in but Clemens, Schilling, Scherzer, Verlander, and Sabathia(Sabathia is a really interesting one)
Personally I think Johan Santana deserved more of a look for the HOF. I am a Mets fan tho so I can admit I am a little biased there
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@joeythebigboss said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@CatRobot1999_PSN said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Skinny dude hitting rockets I knew it. Now he’s just a regular player making 300 million.
Viva Los Dodgers
San Diego thanks for playing.
Except regular players don’t make 300+ mill. I wonder if there’s a way for Padres to void his contract I mean would they even do it .MLB contracts are broken down into paydays for each game. Since a suspension is for misconduct on the player's part, each regular season game missed due to suspension voids 1/162 of the player's contract for the season. So Tatis will lose just about 30% of this years contract amount for being suspended for the last 48 games of the regular season. Tatis will forfeit just about 20% of next years contract amount due to missing the first 32 games of the regular season.
So, the Padres don't have to do anything, the forfeiture of pay is already included in the suspensions and contracts.
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@CDNMoneyMaker93_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Sell your Tatis now bout to end up in the FA pool
Cool. Maybe his stub price will drop
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What a selfish move on the part of Tatis, i'm having flashbacks to Machado yelling at him in the dugout last season. "It's not all about you" well apparently in his head it is. Shamefull way to end a season in my opinion
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@CDNMoneyMaker93_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Sell your Tatis now bout to end up in the FA pool
He should have been in the FA pool all year but SDS will never do that as he is a money grab for them!
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@sandule_PSN said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@CDNMoneyMaker93_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Sell your Tatis now bout to end up in the FA pool
He should have been in the FA pool all year but SDS will never do that as he is a money grab for them!
He went for over 300k at some point this year, no way SDS is moving that to the FA pool (they may now, will see) the NL West would have been way to easy to complete. I guess Mookie could have been the big card but other then that i can't think of much.
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@MRAD2010_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
There goes his chances of a hall of fame career.
Big Papi got in. I don’t know why we hold some guys out and ignore others
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@Jacky-Chan1_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@CDNMoneyMaker93_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Sell your Tatis now bout to end up in the FA pool
Cool. Maybe his stub price will drop
The market does not seem to agree with you…..
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@MRAD2010_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
There goes his chances of a hall of fame career.
They have recently let a player in that has used them and admitted. Though it was quickly forgotten.
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@CDNMoneyMaker93_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
Say goodbye to that 99 POTM card showing back up
That was probably the best POTM card I have used.
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Tatis just proved that while he is gifted he is no professional baseball player. The temper tantrums for having to play in the outfield last year were juvenile but ultimately no big deal. He's young.
He gets in a bike accident once again proving its Tatis first, team second. And now this. And I don't for one second believe this was anything more than Tatis who can't stand to not be in the spotlight, he wanted to come back and be a star. Sometimes the lights are too bright and the all the player wants to do is shine...not win. I hope the Pads drop him. It's a bad investment.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@nflman2033_PSN said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
@MRAD2010_XBL said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
There goes his chances of a hall of fame career.
Ask David Ortiz
That's just the HOF voters being biased losers. Nice guy? Steroids get a pass. Positive test after 2004(Ortiz was in 2003), is pretty much an automatic no though.
I think the rules and/or testing changed after 2003. I would have to double check though.
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This is terrible for the sport we all love. Wish this was a mistake. This sucks
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@joeythebigboss said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
This a sad day for baseball man out of all people his one of the least I would have suspected.
Really? I would bet that at least 70% of MLB is roiding like crazy. But because the commissioner was the kid whose position was always bench warmer, he will turn a blind eye and deaf ear towards it. He is easily the worst commissioner in any sport ever.
I am more shocked they actually enforced the policy on a big name like this. Wonder who he made angry enough to have it happen.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
We honestly should have seen this coming after his injury was due to being reckless on a motorcycle multiple times
He is quickly turning into kellen Winslow jr…
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All of you 100% sure Big Papi cheated. Well, these quotes are from T. J. Quinn, the reporter who broke many of the steroid stories.
He knows more than you do, so I would withhold judgment on Ortiz if I were you.
"Some things to keep in mind when evaluating David Ortiz. We know he was on a list, but we don’t know what he took, if it was banned at the time, what the levels were, whether it was something that plausibly could have become from a supplement,” Quinn writes. "He never got his day in court.”
“I’ve heard way too many people speculate over the past 10 years that he must have doped because he’s Dominican. Such [censored],” Quinn writes. “All we know is he was on a list, and we don’t know what put him there. The point is he never had a chance to defend himself.
“If that’s enough to keep him off your HOF ballot, so be it. But you just can’t equate him with people who were identified as dopers by either a test or non-analytical evidence.”
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@dbub_PSN said in Sources Tatis violated MLB PED policy:
All of you 100% sure Big Papi cheated. Well, these quotes are from T. J. Quinn, the reporter who broke many of the steroid stories.
He knows more than you do, so I would withhold judgment on Ortiz if I were you.
"Some things to keep in mind when evaluating David Ortiz. We know he was on a list, but we don’t know what he took, if it was banned at the time, what the levels were, whether it was something that plausibly could have become from a supplement,” Quinn writes. "He never got his day in court.”
“I’ve heard way too many people speculate over the past 10 years that he must have doped because he’s Dominican. Such [censored],” Quinn writes. “All we know is he was on a list, and we don’t know what put him there. The point is he never had a chance to defend himself.
“If that’s enough to keep him off your HOF ballot, so be it. But you just can’t equate him with people who were identified as dopers by either a test or non-analytical evidence.”
I don't care whether Ortiz juiced or not. It's just the extreme bias and inconsistency the voters show. Piazza and Bagwell didn't get in on the first Ballot because of PED rumors. The same sports writers that voted Bonds 7 MVP's and Clemens 7 Cy Young's refuse to vote them in. Fact is Ortiz, Piazza, Bagwell, Pudge were liked by the media and the rest were not. Bond's Pirates career was almost equal to David Ortiz. Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa, Canseco, and Palmeiro were scapegoats for a league wide problem because they were the easiest to label the bad guys.
