75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence
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I think you may need to change the way of saying at it. Instead of saying you have 1/50 chance of pulling you'll get a diamond, try looking at it as each pack has a 2% chance of containing a diamond.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@renz2003_psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@pennstatefencer_mlbts said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
Where is the video evidence that it is rigged? Your video proves nothing. You're not guaranteed diamonds in standard packs, even within 75 of them. That's not how it works. I've pulled 74 diamonds out of non-choice packs so far this year. Only 3 of them came out of chase packs. Most were standard, headliner, or ballin, and all were earned by just playing the game. Buying packs is a waste of stubs if you want good cards.
The video evidence is when I hit the view odds button and it says information not available. Standard packs are 1:50 odds.
The odds are 1:50 from every pack being opened at the moment, not your packs only. So if 200 people open a pack at the same time only 4 will get a diamond.
Also not how statistical odds work.
Please explain how, that would help me and OP to understand this better.
Every single standard pack you open has a 1/50 chance of a diamond pull. This is completely independent of past or future pack results from you or anyone else.
Even if you pulled Mike Trout in three straight packs, your next pack would still be a 1/50 chance.
Even if you opened 10,000 packs and did not have a single diamond, your next pack would still be a 1/50 chance.
So, I was wrong because I thought odds didn’t reset with each pack. Alright, I understand. Thanks.
I have immense respect for people that can admit they’re wrong, be open to new info/changing their mind, and learn.
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My brain hurts from reading this thread.
All you have to do is go on youtube and type in 50 pack bundle opening to see people pulling diamonds, but that must be to hard. Fits peoples definition of research nowadays though, in that they do no research
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@dbrooks1869_xbl said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
I think you may need to change the way of saying at it. Instead of saying you have 1/50 chance of pulling you'll get a diamond, try looking at it as each pack has a 2% chance of containing a diamond.
Yes, I hope this helps people to understand it, because you are right.
The part people can't comprehend is that each pack has exact same odds every time no matter how many you open.
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@renz2003_psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@pennstatefencer_mlbts said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
Where is the video evidence that it is rigged? Your video proves nothing. You're not guaranteed diamonds in standard packs, even within 75 of them. That's not how it works. I've pulled 74 diamonds out of non-choice packs so far this year. Only 3 of them came out of chase packs. Most were standard, headliner, or ballin, and all were earned by just playing the game. Buying packs is a waste of stubs if you want good cards.
The video evidence is when I hit the view odds button and it says information not available. Standard packs are 1:50 odds.
The odds are 1:50 from every pack being opened at the moment, not your packs only. So if 200 people open a pack at the same time only 4 will get a diamond.
Also not how statistical odds work.
Please explain how, that would help me and OP to understand this better.
Every single standard pack you open has a 1/50 chance of a diamond pull. This is completely independent of past or future pack results from you or anyone else.
Even if you pulled Mike Trout in three straight packs, your next pack would still be a 1/50 chance.
Even if you opened 10,000 packs and did not have a single diamond, your next pack would still be a 1/50 chance.
So, I was wrong because I thought odds didn’t reset with each pack. Alright, I understand. Thanks.
I have immense respect for people that can admit they’re wrong, be open to new info/changing their mind, and learn.
It is the easiest and less painful way to learn and grow but you know, there are some big egos and over sensitive people out there .
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@renz2003_psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@pennstatefencer_mlbts said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
Where is the video evidence that it is rigged? Your video proves nothing. You're not guaranteed diamonds in standard packs, even within 75 of them. That's not how it works. I've pulled 74 diamonds out of non-choice packs so far this year. Only 3 of them came out of chase packs. Most were standard, headliner, or ballin, and all were earned by just playing the game. Buying packs is a waste of stubs if you want good cards.
The video evidence is when I hit the view odds button and it says information not available. Standard packs are 1:50 odds.
The odds are 1:50 from every pack being opened at the moment, not your packs only. So if 200 people open a pack at the same time only 4 will get a diamond.
Also not how statistical odds work.
Please explain how, that would help me and OP to understand this better.
Every single standard pack you open has a 1/50 chance of a diamond pull. This is completely independent of past or future pack results from you or anyone else.
Even if you pulled Mike Trout in three straight packs, your next pack would still be a 1/50 chance.
Even if you opened 10,000 packs and did not have a single diamond, your next pack would still be a 1/50 chance.
So, I was wrong because I thought odds didn’t reset with each pack. Alright, I understand. Thanks.
I have immense respect for people that can admit they’re wrong, be open to new info/changing their mind, and learn.
It is the easiest and less painful way to learn and grow but you know, there are some big egos and over sensitive people out there .
Agreed. That’s the problem with people tying their value as a person to their beliefs. When they are confronted with conflicting evidence they go into defensive mode by downplaying or ignoring rather than fairly considering. This is why cable news is so successful. People like to be told that their beliefs are correct.
Being open minded, recognizing your own fallibility, and adjusting your beliefs accordingly when new evidence justifies it is a much better practice.
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Man an here I thought I bought to much tin foil at Costco today guess I know we're I can use some now
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I’ve wasted my fair share of stubs on 50 bundles in the past and pulled zero diamonds. That’s just how gambling goes. You win some and you lose some. Next 50 bundle you might pull Trout. I hope you save your stubs and flip some cards to make more though tbh. Pack lack is horrible in general.
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OP seems to forget the odds are for EVERYONE IN THE WORLD PURCHASING, not just him. Since I am not playing current year, I like to let my packs build up for the week and open them all and them do my job of flipping. I normally am pretty bad at getting the good cards, but a couple of weeks ago I had a run where I got Trout diamond and I still needed him, and THREE Buehler diamonds. I have yet to ever purchase packs with stubs and can safely say I will NEVER use real money.
I chalked it up to the broken clock being right twice a day. Finally, the odds landed in my favor. Opening packs free or purchased is like going to a casino in Vegas. The house isn't going to come up on the short end. If someone is going in and spending real world money or even stubs and expecting to hit it big then they can expect to be disappointed.
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@dbrooks1869_xbl said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
I think you may need to change the way of saying at it. Instead of saying you have 1/50 chance of pulling you'll get a diamond, try looking at it as each pack has a 2% chance of containing a diamond.
This is actually still off and worth mentioning because 1/50 and 1:50 are not the same thing.
The difference is slight on the 1:50 but for example 1:4 isn’t 1 out of 4. It’s 1 to 4. So out of 5 outcomes 1 is a possible Diamond and 4 are not.
It’s a really easy way to make a 20% chance look like a 25% chance. Or a 25% chance look like a 33% chance at 1:3 which is really 1/4.
The choice packs in this game have much worse odds than they appear.
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Most of my success has come from Ballin packs. The latest conquest was like Christmas Day, pulled a 96 Howard, Judge, Betts, 99 Soto and several others. Not to mention getying Snider at the end. I think the 50, 75 pack bundles are good if you want you want to buildup inventory.
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About a choice pack getting a diamond. That’s not totally true. I’ve had about 3 choice packs that I didn’t get any diamonds. I’ve learned a while ago not to buy packs , even though sometimes I really get that temptation to do so .
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@oreorockstar_psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
75 pack bundle? I have never seen anything above a 50 pack. What am I missing?
This is the problem he is opening something that doesn’t exist
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@thundergod2567_xbl said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
About a choice pack getting a diamond. That’s not totally true. I’ve had about 3 choice packs that I didn’t get any diamonds. I’ve learned a while ago not to buy packs , even though sometimes I really get that temptation to do so .
Oops , meant 3 chase packs …. Not choice packs !
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All the veterans know the diamonds are all hiding in headliner packs.
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@nonessential____psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
All the veterans know the diamonds are all hiding in headliner packs.
Headliner packs ? Thats funny !!! All the headliner packs I’ve opened , I have never got a diamond . Those headliners hate me !!!
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@deleteyourttvbtw_mlbts said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@dbrooks1869_xbl said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
I think you may need to change the way of saying at it. Instead of saying you have 1/50 chance of pulling you'll get a diamond, try looking at it as each pack has a 2% chance of containing a diamond.
This is actually still off and worth mentioning because 1/50 and 1:50 are not the same thing.
The difference is slight on the 1:50 but for example 1:4 isn’t 1 out of 4. It’s 1 to 4. So out of 5 outcomes 1 is a possible Diamond and 4 are not.
It’s a really easy way to make a 20% chance look like a 25% chance. Or a 25% chance look like a 33% chance at 1:3 which is really 1/4.
The choice packs in this game have much worse odds than they appear.
Much worse? It would be either 1/50 or 1/51. Not much difference, which you mentioned, but then said much worse than they appear for some reason.
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@ibonafidescrub_ said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@renz2003_psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
@pennstatefencer_mlbts said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
Where is the video evidence that it is rigged? Your video proves nothing. You're not guaranteed diamonds in standard packs, even within 75 of them. That's not how it works. I've pulled 74 diamonds out of non-choice packs so far this year. Only 3 of them came out of chase packs. Most were standard, headliner, or ballin, and all were earned by just playing the game. Buying packs is a waste of stubs if you want good cards.
The video evidence is when I hit the view odds button and it says information not available. Standard packs are 1:50 odds.
The odds are 1:50 from every pack being opened at the moment, not your packs only. So if 200 people open a pack at the same time only 4 will get a diamond.
Not necessarily. No one could get a diamond or more than 4 could be pulled (unlikely). I have gotten 2 diamonds in 50 pack bundles before. I have not purchased any packs this year, and I am much happier with that decision.
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@nonessential____psn said in 75 pack bundles are completely rigged, video evidence:
All the veterans know the diamonds are all hiding in headliner packs.
Odds/money wise there is no difference between buying regular packs and Headliner packs. 5 regular packs is the same cost as a Headliner pack, and a Headliner pack has 5x the chance of pulling a diamond. So 5 regular packs has an equal chance as 1 Headliner pack, and they both cost 7500. If you are into packs, keep this in mind if one or the other goes on sale. I never buy either because those odds are terrible.
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I think the only time I buy packs is when it’s still in the “early release” stage, before everyone is able to play. The last few years I’ve e noticed Diamonds are easier to pull from packs during that time frame. After that, I don’t even bother unless it’s the headliners. But I’ve only bought a few of those.