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So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?

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  • DoIHearBossMusic_MLBTSD Offline
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    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @lucas8181_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @easy_duhz_it__mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @doihearbossmusic_mlbts said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    Kind of like Pujols, notice in his final year he is not getting NEAR the amount of red carpets in away games that Jeter or Ortiz got their final years, and he is a superior hitter to both, with far superior numbers.

    Reason: Market

    I didn't even think about this until an analyst brought it up on MLB Net, they would have buildings and statues if Pujols played in NY his career

    In what world does Pujols have "far superior" numbers to Jeter?

    Power numbers, sure. But to say he's "far superior" to Jeter is a ludicrous statement.

    Someday when your grandkids are asking if you ever saw Pujols play, be sure to tell them that you wasted the opportunities, because an average shortstop from NY was better.

    You prove the OPs point, market creates a false sense of value. Trout is the only current player that MIGHT match Alberts numbers by the end of his career. I’m guessing you’re under the age of 30, and have no idea what Pujols did in his career.

    Are you [censored]? Wtf does market size have to do with Jeters ability to hit? Are you really suggesting that if he played in Tampa or Oakland, he wouldn't have over 3400 hits?

    Saying his value wouldn't be near as blown up as it has been in NY

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    Jeter got a lot more at bats later in his career because he was a Yankee captain. If he had been a Ray he likely would have retired sooner or been forced to change positions. He is overrated. Same with Pete Rose. He would never have passed Ty Cobb if he wasn't his own manager getting to fill out the line up card.

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    Jeter was an awesome ballplayer and the "overrated" thing is silly. He was the heart and soul of the Yankees dynasty for a decade and a half. So let's all stop with the "overrated" garbage.

    That said... Pujols is in a different universe.

    HRs
    Jeter: 260
    Pujols: 683

    RBI
    Jeter: 1311
    Pujols: 2165

    Career SLG
    Jeter: .440
    Pujols: .542

    Career OPS
    Jeter: .817
    Pujols: .917

    Career OPS+
    Jeter: 115
    Pujols: 144

    Career WAR
    Jeter: 71.3
    Pujols: 99.4

    They have nearly identical ABs (Jeter: 11,196 vs Pujols: 11,204) and Pujols has compiled +423 homers, +850 RBI, +29 WAR in essentially the same number of opportunities. This is the world in which Pujols is a far superior player.

    EDIT: but Jeter sending his dates home with a gift basket the next morning is such an ungodly baller move that I’m almost willing to ignore Pujols’ stats and say that they’re equal.

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    Pujols would have been a better short stop too if he had been given the opportunity.

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    @dolenz_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    @aaronjw76_psn said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    my god you guys are a broken [censored] record.

    I realize it is a pain to see if you are not a fan of the Cardinals and it's cool to insult Cardinal fans but let's be honest, if Goldy played for any other team, then that teams fans would be complaining just as much. Nobody likes to see worthy players on their favorite team snubbed.

    It will pass once it has been vented.

    To be fair, Mookie had more fwar. I would've loved a mookie. I get the market thing though. I'm a Yankees fan and get spoiled but still dislike it and didn't want a Rizzo last month lol

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    @schnauzerface said in So no POTM for the best hitter in May Goldy?:

    Jeter was an awesome ballplayer and the "overrated" thing is silly. He was the heart and soul of the Yankees dynasty for a decade and a half. So let's all stop with the "overrated" garbage.

    That said... Pujols is in a different universe.

    HRs
    Jeter: 260
    Pujols: 683

    RBI
    Jeter: 1311
    Pujols: 2165

    Career SLG
    Jeter: .440
    Pujols: .542

    Career OPS
    Jeter: .817
    Pujols: .917

    Career OPS+
    Jeter: 115
    Pujols: 144

    Career WAR
    Jeter: 71.3
    Pujols: 99.4

    They have nearly identical ABs (Jeter: 11,196 vs Pujols: 11,204) and Pujols has compiled +423 homers, +850 RBI, +29 WAR in essentially the same number of opportunities. This is the world in which Pujols is a far superior player.

    EDIT: but Jeter sending his dates home with a gift basket the next morning is such an ungodly baller move that I’m almost willing to ignore Pujols’ stats and say that they’re equal.

    Hence my original comment of him being far superior, and there's no homer in that conclusion at all unlike the Yanks homer.

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