And There It Is
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@genopolanco_psn said in And There It Is:
All of your analogies are great but it’s not the same when you have to go on the black market to buy a PS5. If they were in stores or selling online from actual retailers, sure, move on to next gen. But they aren’t. It’s not a money issue. It’s a I don’t want to give money to shady people selling PS5s for $300 over retail.
If SONY wants to alienate the PS4 customers, then make sure you can at least produce enough to go around to everyone who wants to buy one over a year later after release.
Lol so now ebay is the black market?
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People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
See you all keep looking at it from the customers side...look at it from the companies side ...if no one is the plane..is it worth taking flight?
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
That's not the point. Flying first class doesnt get you to your destination faster than if you fly coach. You both get there at the same time.
Being able to play a competitive game, that awards players for winning, on a system that performs better than another system isnt fair.
Same thing with Stadium creator. If you have a PS5, and want to us a created stadium, you have to match up with another user that has a PS5. This should be the same for 120 Hz.
And to counter act anyone saying that it's fair to be able to benefit from 120 Hz when your opponent can't; just look at everyone who wanted to/did leave for Xbox because the PS5 didn't support 120 Hz.
They didn't think it was fair to be matched up with a console that had an advantage.
But now these same people are saying 'tough' if you don't have a PS5.
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@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
You shouldn't have to pay over to get one...
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@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
You shouldn't have to pay over to get one...
Well the world doesn't always work the way it should, now does it?
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
But again it’s availability….yes “some” exist but there is clearly a distinct shortage that has been documented from the last almost 2 years. I don’t have the personal recollection from previous initial launches, but while there may be instances of short supply at a given location, there was never anything on a scale as there is today.
There is a big difference between going into 1 of any dozen brick + mortar places or their respective online retailer vs having to scour the internet, be first notice on releases/stocking, etc.
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I played a few BR games this morning and it seemed to work well. I had VRR and 120hz enabled on my Sony 900h. Smooth and no crashes or frame rate drops so far. I also didn’t have to strain myself to turn on fastballs. Very noticeable going from 15.2 ms to 6.7 ms input lag.
Overall, I’m glad I gave them some more time to fix this before going out and buying an Xbox. More clear communication would have been appreciated, though.
Additional note; I’m fairly certain the fps is still capped at 60. Offline it isn’t. I actually catch myself being able to see the seams on the ball sometimes.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
You shouldn't have to pay over to get one...
Well the world doesn't always work the way it should, now does it?
No it doesn't...but that doesn't mean you need to concede to it
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@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
But again it’s availability….yes “some” exist but there is clearly a distinct shortage that has been documented from the last almost 2 years. I don’t have the personal recollection from previous initial launches, but while there may be instances of short supply at a given location, there was never anything on a scale as there is today.
There is a big difference between going into 1 of any dozen brick + mortar places or their respective online retailer vs having to scour the internet, be first notice on releases/stocking, etc.
Lol "scour the internet"?
Just Googled "ps5 ebay" and boom I could have one here thursday for $695 + $20 shipping, in box, form a seller with 98.8% positive feedback, and backed by ebays money back guarantee. $200 over retail, I would hardly call that scouring.
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Those having trouble finding a PS5 really should download a stock alert app. I had one within a few days of using one last year….at retail price.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
But again it’s availability….yes “some” exist but there is clearly a distinct shortage that has been documented from the last almost 2 years. I don’t have the personal recollection from previous initial launches, but while there may be instances of short supply at a given location, there was never anything on a scale as there is today.
There is a big difference between going into 1 of any dozen brick + mortar places or their respective online retailer vs having to scour the internet, be first notice on releases/stocking, etc.
Lol "scour the internet"?
Just Googled "ps5 ebay" and boom I could have one here thursday for $695 + $20 shipping, in box, form a seller with 98.8% positive feedback, and backed by ebays money back guarantee. $200 over retail, I would hardly call that scouring.
Well if people allow this...will this become the norm everytime a new system vis released?
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in And There It Is:
I played a few BR games this morning and it seemed to work well. I had VRR and 120hz enabled on my Sony 900h. Smooth and no crashes or frame rate drops so far. I also didn’t have to strain myself to turn on fastballs. Very noticeable going from 15.2 ms to 6.7 ms input lag.
Overall, I’m glad I gave them some more time to fix this before going out and buying an Xbox. More clear communication would have been appreciated, though.
Additional note; I’m fairly certain the fps is still capped at 60. Offline it isn’t. I actually catch myself being able to see the seams on the ball sometimes.
I just noticed my monitor doesn't have vrr. It does have 144hz though. I play call of duty on 120hz/fps . Their other day I was able to play offline at 120hz on my PS5. I can only assume I will be able to play 120hz online now? Right? I don't know what vrr does but I don't think it's necessary to play at 120hz. Any information would be appreciated.
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@t-rox_09_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in And There It Is:
I played a few BR games this morning and it seemed to work well. I had VRR and 120hz enabled on my Sony 900h. Smooth and no crashes or frame rate drops so far. I also didn’t have to strain myself to turn on fastballs. Very noticeable going from 15.2 ms to 6.7 ms input lag.
Overall, I’m glad I gave them some more time to fix this before going out and buying an Xbox. More clear communication would have been appreciated, though.
Additional note; I’m fairly certain the fps is still capped at 60. Offline it isn’t. I actually catch myself being able to see the seams on the ball sometimes.
I just noticed my monitor doesn't have vrr. It does have 144hz though. I play call of duty on 120hz/fps . Their other day I was able to play offline at 120hz on my PS5. I can only assume I will be able to play 120hz online now? Right? I don't know what vrr does but I don't think it's necessary to play at 120hz. Any information would be appreciated.
I’m not sure about this. Clarification from SDS would be good.
I can turn off VRR and test it, but I don’t have a way to measure other than how it feels.
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@bob_loblaw1984 said in And There It Is:
I played a few BR games this morning and it seemed to work well. I had VRR and 120hz enabled on my Sony 900h. Smooth and no crashes or frame rate drops so far. I also didn’t have to strain myself to turn on fastballs. Very noticeable going from 15.2 ms to 6.7 ms input lag.
Overall, I’m glad I gave them some more time to fix this before going out and buying an Xbox. More clear communication would have been appreciated, though.
Additional note; I’m fairly certain the fps is still capped at 60. Offline it isn’t. I actually catch myself being able to see the seams on the ball sometimes.
I still might get the series x. Since Microsoft bought Bethesda I'm worried that they will make Stanfield an exclusive title. Also gamepass looks nice
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
But again it’s availability….yes “some” exist but there is clearly a distinct shortage that has been documented from the last almost 2 years. I don’t have the personal recollection from previous initial launches, but while there may be instances of short supply at a given location, there was never anything on a scale as there is today.
There is a big difference between going into 1 of any dozen brick + mortar places or their respective online retailer vs having to scour the internet, be first notice on releases/stocking, etc.
Lol "scour the internet"?
Just Googled "ps5 ebay" and boom I could have one here thursday for $695 + $20 shipping, in box, form a seller with 98.8% positive feedback, and backed by ebays money back guarantee. $200 over retail, I would hardly call that scouring.
That’s a 40% markup, for something that isn’t being exploited to its potential yet by your own admission.
You also have to factor in that a lot of players are from outside the US, so the already rare availability is even worse depending on where you live.
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@ecureuil2011_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
But again it’s availability….yes “some” exist but there is clearly a distinct shortage that has been documented from the last almost 2 years. I don’t have the personal recollection from previous initial launches, but while there may be instances of short supply at a given location, there was never anything on a scale as there is today.
There is a big difference between going into 1 of any dozen brick + mortar places or their respective online retailer vs having to scour the internet, be first notice on releases/stocking, etc.
Lol "scour the internet"?
Just Googled "ps5 ebay" and boom I could have one here thursday for $695 + $20 shipping, in box, form a seller with 98.8% positive feedback, and backed by ebays money back guarantee. $200 over retail, I would hardly call that scouring.
That’s a 40% markup, for something that isn’t being exploited to its potential yet by your own admission.
You also have to factor in that a lot of players are from outside the US, so the already rare availability is even worse depending on where you live.
Lol so now we are talking about people in other countries... I'm out.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@ecureuil2011_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@tmichae10_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
Brilliantly said good sir. If you don't want to spend the extra money for a first class ticket that's fine you can fly coach, but we aren't grounding the plane because you don't have the same leg room.
I think for a lot of people it’s not that they don’t want to fly first class, it’s that there aren’t enough seats.
We just bought one last week for my father-in-law from ebay. They are out there, they just cost more than most are willing to spend. It's unfortunate, but it's not like you absolutely can't buy one, becasue you can.
But again it’s availability….yes “some” exist but there is clearly a distinct shortage that has been documented from the last almost 2 years. I don’t have the personal recollection from previous initial launches, but while there may be instances of short supply at a given location, there was never anything on a scale as there is today.
There is a big difference between going into 1 of any dozen brick + mortar places or their respective online retailer vs having to scour the internet, be first notice on releases/stocking, etc.
Lol "scour the internet"?
Just Googled "ps5 ebay" and boom I could have one here thursday for $695 + $20 shipping, in box, form a seller with 98.8% positive feedback, and backed by ebays money back guarantee. $200 over retail, I would hardly call that scouring.
That’s a 40% markup, for something that isn’t being exploited to its potential yet by your own admission.
You also have to factor in that a lot of players are from outside the US, so the already rare availability is even worse depending on where you live.
Lol so now we are talking about people in other countries... I'm out.
You do know there’s other countries than the US, right? And lots of players in this here forum too. You should get out of Texas sometimes, might do some good for your brain.
