And There It Is
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You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Really? Because you see me arguing and disagreeing with so many people in here right?
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@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
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@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
But the thing is...I bet there wasn't such a large discrepancy of users of those systems as there are now...that is why it is a topic of discussion now and not then
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Is there a way to find out the sales for the show on each system?
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So guys, it's working on PS5?
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@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
So guys, it's working on PS5?
From what I gather, yes. But I've been reading about alot of freezes.
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@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
So guys, it's working on PS5?
From what I gather, yes. But I've been reading about alot of freezes.
I'd like to say I'm surprised but I'd be lying
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@flamexjd20_psn said in And There It Is:
@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Yeah I agree...but are there enough PS5 players to support themselves?
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@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
So guys, it's working on PS5?
From what I gather, yes. But I've been reading about alot of freezes.
that is very disappointing to hear gents - the freezes really ruin my buzz going into the games - unreal they have not addressed this for years - i feel like 2021 it was horrible - that one IF hit to 2nd base if you had a runner on first - every [censored] time it would freeze
they never addressed it !!!
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@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
So guys, it's working on PS5?
From what I gather, yes. But I've been reading about alot of freezes.
I'd like to say I'm surprised but I'd be lying
It’s working, granted I’m just now playing my first event game of the day. Haven’t ran into any freezes yet but I’m sure it’s inevitable
I’m early on everything but it feels great to have 120 online. Now if they could only fix hitting…
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@flamexjd20_psn said in And There It Is:
@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Those are fair arguments. At some point we have to make the transition though, despite a PS5 still being hard to obtain. This is the second next gen installment, I think it's fair to move on from PS4 at this point and focus solely on the abilities of next gen machines when it comes to decision making. They could also go the route 2K took by making a completely separate game for current gen and previous gen, but since they don't do that for whatever reason I feel it's completely fair to focus on the future instead of the past.
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@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@flamexjd20_psn said in And There It Is:
@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Those are fair arguments. At some point we have to make the transition though, despite a PS5 still being hard to obtain. This is the second next gen installment, I think it's fair to move on from PS4 at this point and focus solely on the abilities of next gen machines when it comes to decision making. They could also go the route 2K took by making a completely separate game for current gen and previous gen, but since they don't do that for whatever reason I feel it's completely fair to focus on the future instead of the past.
I agree with this...but how many PS5 users actually bought the show?
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@arvcpa_psn said in And There It Is:
@ikasnu_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@ikasnu_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@ikasnu_psn said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@ikasnu_psn said in And There It Is:
Bought me a new monitor
@ikasnu_psn said in And There It Is:
Bought me a new monitor
Nice. I'm either buying a new monitor or a new console. Should find out soon.
Monitor is a lot cheaper
Not really. Monitor around 700 and series x around 600. Idk I haven't really researched the prices yet.
I just bought one for $180 lol
Oh haha the monitor I was looking at is the m32 or the Samsung odyssey g7
Oh [censored] that lol. I just grabbed a 144hz 1ms one.
Can I ask which one and do you like it?
Gets here Wednesday
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@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@flamexjd20_psn said in And There It Is:
@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Those are fair arguments. At some point we have to make the transition though, despite a PS5 still being hard to obtain. This is the second next gen installment, I think it's fair to move on from PS4 at this point and focus solely on the abilities of next gen machines when it comes to decision making. They could also go the route 2K took by making a completely separate game for current gen and previous gen, but since they don't do that for whatever reason I feel it's completely fair to focus on the future instead of the past.
I agree with this...but how many PS5 users actually bought the show?
I'm sure you can find those numbers in an annual report from SDS that will come out later this year. In my opinion that question is irrelevant to the point I tried making though, because down the line of my arguments it's not about catering to the majority (if the PS4 would still be the majority, I do not know), but moving on and focusing on the present/future and PS5/XSX capabilities while still making the game accessible for previous gen users so they can at least still play it, albeit with a disadvantage because the system they use is previous gen with less capable hardware that isn't being catered to anymore.
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@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@flamexjd20_psn said in And There It Is:
@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Those are fair arguments. At some point we have to make the transition though, despite a PS5 still being hard to obtain. This is the second next gen installment, I think it's fair to move on from PS4 at this point and focus solely on the abilities of next gen machines when it comes to decision making. They could also go the route 2K took by making a completely separate game for current gen and previous gen, but since they don't do that for whatever reason I feel it's completely fair to focus on the future instead of the past.
I agree with this...but how many PS5 users actually bought the show?
I'm sure you can find those numbers in an annual report from SDS that will come out later this year. In my opinion that question is irrelevant to the point I tried making though, because down the line of my arguments it's not about catering to the majority (if the PS4 would still be the majority, I do not know), but moving on and focusing on the present/future and PS5/XSX capabilities while still making the game accessible for previous gen users so they can at least still play it, albeit with a disadvantage because the system they use is previous gen with less capable hardware that isn't being catered to anymore.
Yes..but it is relevant...you have to figure..are the sales worth the effort
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@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@flamexjd20_psn said in And There It Is:
@the_dragon1912 said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@go4stros25_psn said in And There It Is:
@pscrabro_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
@raesone_psn said in And There It Is:
@stinkysman77_mlbts said in And There It Is:
What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Those are fair arguments. At some point we have to make the transition though, despite a PS5 still being hard to obtain. This is the second next gen installment, I think it's fair to move on from PS4 at this point and focus solely on the abilities of next gen machines when it comes to decision making. They could also go the route 2K took by making a completely separate game for current gen and previous gen, but since they don't do that for whatever reason I feel it's completely fair to focus on the future instead of the past.
I agree with this...but how many PS5 users actually bought the show?
I'm sure you can find those numbers in an annual report from SDS that will come out later this year. In my opinion that question is irrelevant to the point I tried making though, because down the line of my arguments it's not about catering to the majority (if the PS4 would still be the majority, I do not know), but moving on and focusing on the present/future and PS5/XSX capabilities while still making the game accessible for previous gen users so they can at least still play it, albeit with a disadvantage because the system they use is previous gen with less capable hardware that isn't being catered to anymore.
Yes..but it is relevant...you have to figure..are the sales worth the effort
It is relevant, but not in the context of the arguments I was making where their focus should solely be on PS5/XSX capabilities. If previous gen owners can tag along and still play the same game under worse conditions then that's great and very welcome, but it makes total sense to make the transition now. It'll be 2 years soon since PS5 released. I'm open to the availability arguments, because of the scarcity (although not impossible to find one) but not open for the price tag arguments.
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
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All of your analogies are great but it’s not the same when you have to go on the black market to buy a PS5. If they were in stores or selling online from actual retailers, sure, move on to next gen. But they aren’t. It’s not a money issue. It’s a I don’t want to give money to shady people selling PS5s for $300 over retail.
If SONY wants to alienate the PS4 customers, then make sure you can at least produce enough to go around to everyone who wants to buy one over a year later after release.
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What does this mean for PS4 users ..won't they be completely overmatched?
If we can play at 120Hz, then yeah you're at a significant disadvantage. Time to upgrade.
See this makes me think they'll revert everything to 60hz...seems wrong to alienate a large group
I have to disagree with this and doubt they care if they alienate the PS4 users. If they hold the new console back due to the old console not having the same technology... what would be the point of paying $500 for a new console??? They wouldn't make a new car with new features, then disable the new features to be loyal to customers that paid for the previous version... that would just be bad business. They should and better be upgrading PS5 to 120hz... because that's what PS5 users paid for. PS4 users never paid for a 120hz system... so they need to buy a new console to get it. 120hz imo should have been enabled at launch and needs to be added asap because this is a Sony game and it's better to play on a Microsoft product... that is not good business for Sony.
You are spot on. Don't bother trying to have a debate with this stinky guy. It's kinda his thing to be argumentative, most people know him from one of his other accounts so we just ignore him.
You could have a written report from playstion CEO Jim Ryan and he will still argue.
Wow really?... I'm being argumentative?
Actually what I'm saying is fact whether you agree with it or not...it is the exact reason why they continue to make games for both PS4 and PS5 ...not enough people have a PS5 to support the sales..this is factThey made the show 14,15, and 16 for both the PS3 and the PS4 and this wasn't a topic of discussion. Availability of the PS5 has nothing do do with why they shouldn't be holding the PS5s capabilities back. If you can't get a PS5 fine, but you need to accept that this game should be an inferior product on the PS4.
Also I can tell that none of you play any other games but this one. Quite literally every other game that has crossplay has PC thrown in the mix
I agree, the game should play superior and use the full capacity of the next gen but dont match up ps4 players with ps5 players if crossplay is off. And for dang sure i wont be spending a penny on DD if im in such disadvantage, nor should anyone else with an old console.
Im still playing on my old ps4 because i dont wanna spend 1200 bucks on a ps5 here in canada.
Those are fair arguments. At some point we have to make the transition though, despite a PS5 still being hard to obtain. This is the second next gen installment, I think it's fair to move on from PS4 at this point and focus solely on the abilities of next gen machines when it comes to decision making. They could also go the route 2K took by making a completely separate game for current gen and previous gen, but since they don't do that for whatever reason I feel it's completely fair to focus on the future instead of the past.
I agree with this...but how many PS5 users actually bought the show?
I'm sure you can find those numbers in an annual report from SDS that will come out later this year. In my opinion that question is irrelevant to the point I tried making though, because down the line of my arguments it's not about catering to the majority (if the PS4 would still be the majority, I do not know), but moving on and focusing on the present/future and PS5/XSX capabilities while still making the game accessible for previous gen users so they can at least still play it, albeit with a disadvantage because the system they use is previous gen with less capable hardware that isn't being catered to anymore.
Yes..but it is relevant...you have to figure..are the sales worth the effort
It is relevant, but not in the context of the arguments I was making where their focus should solely be on PS5/XSX capabilities. If previous gen owners can tag along and still play the same game under worse conditions then that's great and very welcome, but it makes total sense to make the transition now. It'll be 2 years soon since PS5 released. I'm open to the availability arguments, because of the scarcity (although not impossible to find one) but not open for the price tag arguments.
People who say "I don't wanna spend X amount of money" sound extremely entitled to me, because if they don't wanna spend money that's totally fine. Nobody is forcing anyone to do so. But you can not expect the premium while not willing to pay for it and it's basically a big F you to all those who did put down that money. Consider yourself being one of those people for a minute and you hear PS4 owners make these arguments.
I remember when the PS4 came out. I was in college and had no money to upgrade right away from my PS3. I understood that I would not have the same benefits as those PS4 users and never even thought of complaining about it, because that's how the world works.
I think you misunderstood....I mean from the companies side...is the effort worth the return...are there actually enough PS5 users purchasing the game for them to produce 2 separate games/fully explore the upgrade capabilities?
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