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  • Parradox-Cam_PSNP Offline
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    It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.

    I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.

    I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.

    For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.

    That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.

    Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.

    I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?

    This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.

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  • Kovz88_PSNK Offline
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    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

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    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

    No this is groundbreaking news, didn't we all think the only directional swing rewarded was when pitches were right down the middle because the pci doesn't move from there?

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    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

    PCI that is stationary in the middle of the zone, a pitch on the bottom corner not even touching the PCI being sent out of the stadium…..your right, I don’t understand how that’s possible.

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    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

    PCI that is stationary in the middle of the zone, a pitch on the bottom corner not even touching the PCI being sent out of the stadium…..your right, I don’t understand how that’s possible.

    This post just confirms you don't understand it. When someone is using directional it doesn't show their PCI movement in the feedback. No conspiracy, nothing to see here. Move along

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    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

    PCI that is stationary in the middle of the zone, a pitch on the bottom corner not even touching the PCI being sent out of the stadium…..your right, I don’t understand how that’s possible.

    This post just confirms you don't understand it. When someone is using directional it doesn't show their PCI movement in the feedback. No conspiracy, nothing to see here. Move along

    If you read, and understood my post, I matched with my friend who is 100% a directional hitter. We were even talking and laughing on the phone during the game about how shady this game is. So what were you saying about not seeing his PCI movement? The PCI doesn’t move with directional.

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  • Red_Ted_is_back_PSNR Offline
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    Hey, kudos to the OP for actually doing a structured test instead of the usual rant post.

    Question, was the sinker the #1 pitch for that pitcher? ie the X button (on PS) pitch?

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    @red_ted_is_back said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    Hey, kudos to the OP for actually doing a structured test instead of the usual rant post.

    Question, was the sinker the #1 pitch for that pitcher? ie the X button (on PS) pitch?

    No, but I chose sinker as the pitch to try to induce ground balls. Thought no way he would be able to do anything, especially being thrown into the corner of the zone, but boy was I wrong. I use PP very well and was dotting them on the very tip of the corner until the game started forcing them more into the zone, even with good input still. The craziest thing was the hits he was getting, actually able to lift the ball from the bottom corner despite the PCI being stationary in the middle of the zone. The game forced errors were irritating also.

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    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @red_ted_is_back said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    Hey, kudos to the OP for actually doing a structured test instead of the usual rant post.

    Question, was the sinker the #1 pitch for that pitcher? ie the X button (on PS) pitch?

    No, but I chose sinker as the pitch to try to induce ground balls. Thought no way he would be able to do anything, especially being thrown into the corner of the zone, but boy was I wrong. I use PP very well and was dotting them on the very tip of the corner until the game started forcing them more into the zone, even with good input still. The craziest thing was the hits he was getting, actually able to lift the ball from the bottom corner despite the PCI being stationary in the middle of the zone. The game forced errors were irritating also.

    The errant pitch locations could have been due to the spam deterrent that was put into the game a few years back, to stop people spamming secondary pitches.

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  • Kovz88_PSNK Offline
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    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

    PCI that is stationary in the middle of the zone, a pitch on the bottom corner not even touching the PCI being sent out of the stadium…..your right, I don’t understand how that’s possible.

    This post just confirms you don't understand it. When someone is using directional it doesn't show their PCI movement in the feedback. No conspiracy, nothing to see here. Move along

    If you read, and understood my post, I matched with my friend who is 100% a directional hitter. We were even talking and laughing on the phone during the game about how shady this game is. So what were you saying about not seeing his PCI movement? The PCI doesn’t move with directional.

    Once again you don't understand directional. The PCI does move, do you think you hit a direction for fun?

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  • HustlinOwl_PSNH Offline
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    Nothing to see here OP has no clue how directional hitting works and spamming the same pitch with low pitched confidence an entire game hardly proves anything. Then uses a backup account lmao

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  • dewrock_PSND Offline
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    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.

    I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.

    I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.

    For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.

    That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.

    Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.

    I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?

    This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.

    I’m genuinely curious how your friend plays with one hand. That being said the rest of this post is ridiculous.

    Directional hitting has nothing to do with a PCI. It’s strictly timing with the ability to influence the direction of the hit (although who knows how much).

    I always love the posts that say “for the first x innings I was untouchable, then he started crushing me, this game is rigged”. As if a pitcher has never started a game out well only to then stink.

    I will agree with you about the low sinkers being hit for homers. That defies physics to me. I’m talking a sinking pitch that is a few inches below the zone being crushed for a homer. Makes no sense.

    Also, In what world should the “better” team win 100% of the time?

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    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @kovz88_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It sounds more like you don't understand how directional hitting works.

    PCI that is stationary in the middle of the zone, a pitch on the bottom corner not even touching the PCI being sent out of the stadium…..your right, I don’t understand how that’s possible.

    PCI is not the bat.

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    Nothing to see here OP has no clue how directional hitting works and spamming the same pitch with low pitched confidence an entire game hardly proves anything. Then uses a backup account lmao

    But but he ran a one game test and came to his conclusion…

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    I have very limited use of my left hand due to medical issues. I used to use PCI but it became almost impossible for me, I still love the game and want to play, so I primarily use directional. It's definitely tougher. I wouldn't say the game caters to directional hitters at all. When I match up against a good pitcher using PinPoint its almost impossible, but its baseball, so I slog through. I love this game.

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    @dewrock_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    @parradox-cam_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    It was my friend and he solely uses Directional and has for years, he only has one hand.

    I’ve been curious and suspicious about how the game caters to Directional hitters so we decided to do a test.

    I was only going to throw the same pitch in the same spot (a sinker down and in right on the corner) for the length of the game and see what happens.

    For the first 2 innings he couldn’t do much but keep fouling them off and eventually striking out. Then like a light switch turned on, he magically starts making hard contact and hitting line drives into the outfield. How is that possible? The PCI does not move with directional, how is he hitting a ball on the bottom corner, let alone sending hard hit line drives into the outfield? At best these hits should be nothing but choppers according to the PCI placement (ball hit on the bottom of the PCI). After I went up a few runs, it got real interesting. Now he’s sending no doubters into the stands and my fielders are letting routine hits go right passed them like they are playing on a T Ball team. The game is trying it’s hardest to keep him in it. In the late innings, with a fresh reliever, my pitches are being forced into a better part of the zone, to make it easier for him. He ties it up with another error from my SS and then on yet another sinker on the bottom corner he walks it off with another no doubter.

    That was it, I was suspicious over the years and now it’s confirmed. This game caters to directional hitters and literally rewards them for doing nothing but pushing a single button.

    Their claim of “stick skills reign supreme” is a flat out lie and when they say they want to make this game as “realistic” as possible, what they actually mean is, the game is basically scripted and at times there’s nothing you can do, even if your the better player, from the game deciding the winner.

    I will not be purchasing next’s year’s game or any future game until they can tone this “simulation” stuff down and let the better player win 100% of the time. Is that really too much to ask for?

    This my old alt account btw for those “forum detectives” out there lol.

    I’m genuinely curious how your friend plays with one hand. That being said the rest of this post is ridiculous.

    Directional hitting has nothing to do with a PCI. It’s strictly timing with the ability to influence the direction of the hit (although who knows how much).

    I always love the posts that say “for the first x innings I was untouchable, then he started crushing me, this game is rigged”. As if a pitcher has never started a game out well only to then stink.

    I will agree with you about the low sinkers being hit for homers. That defies physics to me. I’m talking a sinking pitch that is a few inches below the zone being crushed for a homer. Makes no sense.

    Also, In what world should the “better” team win 100% of the time?

    One thing. I think it's entirely possible to hit a sinker for a homerun. If you're talking about "inches below the zone", do you realize that is just inches below a hitters knee? I'm sure 99% of all MLB hitters can crush a sinker for a HR if it's just a few inches below his knee/zone. They just need to golf it.

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    the first error is thinking there is a pci in directional hitting, there isnt it is swing timing and nothing else.
    it displays in the feedback because its part of the base program.in order to not they would have to write code for it, then deal with the repercussions of 2 different feedback systems

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    Nothing to see here OP has no clue how directional hitting works and spamming the same pitch with low pitched confidence an entire game hardly proves anything. Then uses a backup account lmao

    Explain in detail how directional hitting works if your so confident in what you said.

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    PCI moves based on batter attributes they can use right stick to influence fly ball or hit on the ground. However most just press button and let player attribute take over

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    @hustlinowl_psn said in Matched up with a Directional Hitter:

    PCI moves based on batter attributes they can use right stick to influence fly ball or hit on the ground. However most just press button and let player attribute take over

    The game moves the PCI for them?

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