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  • D_e_m_I_s_E_PSND Offline
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    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Does anyone remember in COD the ridiculous host advantage that players used to have when they were host? Well this is similar. While playing the event last night I really paid attention to the opponent name and how the game played. Coincidentally, every game that had a name from or really close to where the alleged servers are (New Jersey, Florida, Chicago, Texas, Denver, West Coast) played really bad. I had a hard time getting hits in these games despite good pci placement, pitches felt faster, baserunning was terrible, felt like I was throwing slow pitch softball with outlier pitchers. It was frankly just a miserable experience. Funny enough the other games played fine. Getting rewarded, turning on pitches, etc.

    If you have been dealing with these issues consistently you have probably moved on to Madden or something else. If not, look at the team name and tell me if when you play someone whose team name is the above or close to it, the game play deteriorates badly. Matter of fact, my guess is if your opponent is even decently closer to these locations than you that you will see these issues.

    Before the idiots come in, this isn't about wins and losses. This is about consistency and quality in this game. I mean we could move one of these servers from Chicago to KC and I almost guarantee the quality of my game would rise dramatically. I don't know what role the server plays in p2p but there is definitely something here. Happens way too much for there not to be.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I don’t play online, I just play against the cpu, do programs, and conquest. However, I am experiencing issues similar to the ones you describe. Before I go into my experiences, I’d like to state for the record that I’ve played MLBTS since MLBTS 16, I am playing MLB 21 on Xbox Series X, and I have excellent WiFi and internet (with signal-boosting linksys nodes).

    Against CPU, the game can be choppy and have a low frame rate sometimes. It doesn’t happen often during sunny, partly cloudy, overcast, or night games, but the frame rate drops during rain games (especially noticeable when the bat makes contact of any kind with the ball, esp. fouls). It’s very annoying.

    The game deliberately makes my baserunners slow and stupid. It doesn’t matter if the pitcher is terrible at pickoffs, or how bad the infielders are. On every other steal attempt (on average), my baserunner will get a slowed-down jump—even if the baserunner is a speed demon, like Kenny Lofton or MA Byron Buxton. This occurs regardless of the ball-strike count, game situation, or pitch out. It’s quite remarkable that my controller has not been sent into the opposite wall like a missile, with how much this has happened.

    Furthermore, the game will lock me in place on occasion when the pitcher does a pickoff throw. It happens regardless of what base my runner (or runners) is on and regardless of the stats of the pitcher/infielders or those of my baserunner. My runner is stuck in place and doesn’t move when I press the button to make him retreat.

    Also, I feel like the game makes me throw a cookie to the occasional hitter (even though the pitcher I’m using has great accuracy), resulting in a no-doubt home run. It used to happen to me pitching against Gary Sanchez all the time (for some reason). Maybe the game wants to give the hitter a freebie HR with how many batters I strike out. Idk.

    I wish I could say I was paranoid, but I have a gut feeling and years of MLBTS experience that suggest otherwise. I should probably make a thread on this.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Does anyone remember in COD the ridiculous host advantage that players used to have when they were host? Well this is similar. While playing the event last night I really paid attention to the opponent name and how the game played. Coincidentally, every game that had a name from or really close to where the alleged servers are (New Jersey, Florida, Chicago, Texas, Denver, West Coast) played really bad. I had a hard time getting hits in these games despite good pci placement, pitches felt faster, baserunning was terrible, felt like I was throwing slow pitch softball with outlier pitchers. It was frankly just a miserable experience. Funny enough the other games played fine. Getting rewarded, turning on pitches, etc.

    If you have been dealing with these issues consistently you have probably moved on to Madden or something else. If not, look at the team name and tell me if when you play someone whose team name is the above or close to it, the game play deteriorates badly. Matter of fact, my guess is if your opponent is even decently closer to these locations than you that you will see these issues.

    Before the idiots come in, this isn't about wins and losses. This is about consistency and quality in this game. I mean we could move one of these servers from Chicago to KC and I almost guarantee the quality of my game would rise dramatically. I don't know what role the server plays in p2p but there is definitely something here. Happens way too much for there not to be.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    In all my years playing the game I’ve never looked as close to these things as it appears you have. I normally get matched up with people from my area. Lots of western New Yorkers and people from Ontario Canada. If my rankings were any good in these online mode I’m sure the match making would range out further. I’m going to playing a bunch online this weekend. I’ll keep this in mind and tell you my experience

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    @ladyswampfox_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I don’t play online, I just play against the cpu, do programs, and conquest. However, I am experiencing issues similar to the ones you describe. Before I go into my experiences, I’d like to state for the record that I’ve played MLBTS since MLBTS 16, I am playing MLB 21 on Xbox Series X, and I have excellent WiFi and internet (with signal-boosting linksys nodes).

    Against CPU, the game can be choppy and have a low frame rate sometimes. It doesn’t happen often during sunny, partly cloudy, overcast, or night games, but the frame rate drops during rain games (especially noticeable when the bat makes contact of any kind with the ball, esp. fouls). It’s very annoying.

    The game deliberately makes my baserunners slow and stupid. It doesn’t matter if the pitcher is terrible at pickoffs, or how bad the infielders are. On every other steal attempt (on average), my baserunner will get a slowed-down jump—even if the baserunner is a speed demon, like Kenny Lofton or MA Byron Buxton. This occurs regardless of the ball-strike count, game situation, or pitch out. It’s quite remarkable that my controller has not been sent into the opposite wall like a missile, with how much this has happened.

    Furthermore, the game will lock me in place on occasion when the pitcher does a pickoff throw. It happens regardless of what base my runner (or runners) is on and regardless of the stats of the pitcher/infielders or those of my baserunner. My runner is stuck in place and doesn’t move when I press the button to make him retreat.

    Also, I feel like the game makes me throw a cookie to the occasional hitter (even though the pitcher I’m using has great accuracy), resulting in a no-doubt home run. It used to happen to me pitching against Gary Sanchez all the time (for some reason). Maybe the game wants to give the hitter a freebie HR with how many batters I strike out. Idk.

    I wish I could say I was paranoid, but I have a gut feeling and years of MLBTS experience that suggest otherwise. I should probably make a thread on this.

    I don't play against the cpu much. It is mind numbingly boring for me. However, I was getting some of these early when the servers were just horrid.

    Be thankful you don't play online if you deal with this against the cpu. This game isn't worth breaking controllers for.

    Unfortunately, I don't think this will get many responses because I think most of the people that deal with these issues bailed. I think I may friendly or just quit when I see these people. Save me 45 minutes of bs. Last night I thought long and hard about going back to PUBG. Probably test this theory some more tonight. Worried about playing HOF when these issues cause huge problems on all star. I seem to be playing these people more. Had a lot of them last night and it wasn't fun.

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    Just because someone has a team name/logo of a certain city/country that doesn't mean that's where they're located.

    My team name is the Altoona Curve.
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    I was born and raised near there; but I know reside in a different town and a different state.

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    @chaos-xx-theory_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    Just because someone has a team name/logo of a certain city/country that doesn't mean that's where they're located.

    My team name is the Altoona Curve.
    .
    I was born and raised near there; but I know reside in a different town and a different state.

    I am aware but I think most do. That is my opinion and if their name says NY and the game plays great, I am pretty sure they are not from NY. If their name says Kansas and it plays like garbage, I would bet they are really close to one of these servers, probably the Denver one to be precise.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @ladyswampfox_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I don’t play online, I just play against the cpu, do programs, and conquest. However, I am experiencing issues similar to the ones you describe. Before I go into my experiences, I’d like to state for the record that I’ve played MLBTS since MLBTS 16, I am playing MLB 21 on Xbox Series X, and I have excellent WiFi and internet (with signal-boosting linksys nodes).

    Against CPU, the game can be choppy and have a low frame rate sometimes. It doesn’t happen often during sunny, partly cloudy, overcast, or night games, but the frame rate drops during rain games (especially noticeable when the bat makes contact of any kind with the ball, esp. fouls). It’s very annoying.

    The game deliberately makes my baserunners slow and stupid. It doesn’t matter if the pitcher is terrible at pickoffs, or how bad the infielders are. On every other steal attempt (on average), my baserunner will get a slowed-down jump—even if the baserunner is a speed demon, like Kenny Lofton or MA Byron Buxton. This occurs regardless of the ball-strike count, game situation, or pitch out. It’s quite remarkable that my controller has not been sent into the opposite wall like a missile, with how much this has happened.

    Furthermore, the game will lock me in place on occasion when the pitcher does a pickoff throw. It happens regardless of what base my runner (or runners) is on and regardless of the stats of the pitcher/infielders or those of my baserunner. My runner is stuck in place and doesn’t move when I press the button to make him retreat.

    Also, I feel like the game makes me throw a cookie to the occasional hitter (even though the pitcher I’m using has great accuracy), resulting in a no-doubt home run. It used to happen to me pitching against Gary Sanchez all the time (for some reason). Maybe the game wants to give the hitter a freebie HR with how many batters I strike out. Idk.

    I wish I could say I was paranoid, but I have a gut feeling and years of MLBTS experience that suggest otherwise. I should probably make a thread on this.

    I don't play against the cpu much. It is mind numbingly boring for me. However, I was getting some of these early when the servers were just horrid.

    Be thankful you don't play online if you deal with this against the cpu. This game isn't worth breaking controllers for.

    Unfortunately, I don't think this will get many responses because I think most of the people that deal with these issues bailed. I think I may friendly or just quit when I see these people. Save me 45 minutes of bs. Last night I thought long and hard about going back to PUBG. Probably test this theory some more tonight. Worried about playing HOF when these issues cause huge problems on all star. I seem to be playing these people more. Had a lot of them last night and it wasn't fun.

    I played one online game this year and the lag made my pitching so awful that I gave up three HRs in an inning. Couldn’t even hit one myself. I was out of town renting a place at the time for an internship, and that no doubt played a role in the bad signal, but still. I play battlefield and I know exactly what having high latency is like (it’s crazy, when it gets bad enough your soldier just zips and slides around, and your shots don’t register soon enough, if at all). I get onto Charter real quick if we’re not getting the signal strength and speed we pay for. Drives me crazy.

    Worse, the person I played against had the worst uniforms ever that had the loudest and most obnoxious colors. Their players were so bright in that head-to-toe hot pink and light blue that they looked like they took a bath in a melted down reactor core. It was terrible, no fashion sense at all 😆

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    Double post deleted. This forum sucks when you type here on your phone.

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    You may be on to something there. I live in VA and I am constantly playing games where there is lag and it is very choppy. A couple weeks back i was in Florida visiting family and the game did seem to play much smoother when playing online. I will say my internet in VA isn't the greatest but the FL internet speeds and connection were very similar.

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    @ladyswampfox_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @ladyswampfox_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I don’t play online, I just play against the cpu, do programs, and conquest. However, I am experiencing issues similar to the ones you describe. Before I go into my experiences, I’d like to state for the record that I’ve played MLBTS since MLBTS 16, I am playing MLB 21 on Xbox Series X, and I have excellent WiFi and internet (with signal-boosting linksys nodes).

    Against CPU, the game can be choppy and have a low frame rate sometimes. It doesn’t happen often during sunny, partly cloudy, overcast, or night games, but the frame rate drops during rain games (especially noticeable when the bat makes contact of any kind with the ball, esp. fouls). It’s very annoying.

    The game deliberately makes my baserunners slow and stupid. It doesn’t matter if the pitcher is terrible at pickoffs, or how bad the infielders are. On every other steal attempt (on average), my baserunner will get a slowed-down jump—even if the baserunner is a speed demon, like Kenny Lofton or MA Byron Buxton. This occurs regardless of the ball-strike count, game situation, or pitch out. It’s quite remarkable that my controller has not been sent into the opposite wall like a missile, with how much this has happened.

    Furthermore, the game will lock me in place on occasion when the pitcher does a pickoff throw. It happens regardless of what base my runner (or runners) is on and regardless of the stats of the pitcher/infielders or those of my baserunner. My runner is stuck in place and doesn’t move when I press the button to make him retreat.

    Also, I feel like the game makes me throw a cookie to the occasional hitter (even though the pitcher I’m using has great accuracy), resulting in a no-doubt home run. It used to happen to me pitching against Gary Sanchez all the time (for some reason). Maybe the game wants to give the hitter a freebie HR with how many batters I strike out. Idk.

    I wish I could say I was paranoid, but I have a gut feeling and years of MLBTS experience that suggest otherwise. I should probably make a thread on this.

    I don't play against the cpu much. It is mind numbingly boring for me. However, I was getting some of these early when the servers were just horrid.

    Be thankful you don't play online if you deal with this against the cpu. This game isn't worth breaking controllers for.

    Unfortunately, I don't think this will get many responses because I think most of the people that deal with these issues bailed. I think I may friendly or just quit when I see these people. Save me 45 minutes of bs. Last night I thought long and hard about going back to PUBG. Probably test this theory some more tonight. Worried about playing HOF when these issues cause huge problems on all star. I seem to be playing these people more. Had a lot of them last night and it wasn't fun.

    I played one online game this year and the lag made my pitching so awful that I gave up three HRs in an inning. Couldn’t even hit one myself. I was out of town renting a place at the time for an internship, and that no doubt played a role in the bad signal, but still. I play battlefield and I know exactly what having high latency is like (it’s crazy, when it gets bad enough your soldier just zips and slides around, and your shots don’t register soon enough, if at all). I get onto Charter real quick if we’re not getting the signal strength and speed we pay for. Drives me crazy.

    Worse, the person I played against had the worst uniforms ever that had the loudest and most obnoxious colors. Their players were so bright in that head-to-toe hot pink and light blue that they looked like they took a bath in a melted down reactor core. It was terrible, no fashion sense at all 😆

    Battlefield had to change how they did things. Do you remember back when the OOR (out of region) players would come into servers with their 300 ping and wreck servers? They would drop you instantly and they were like little terminators.

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    @dsparks_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    You may be on to something there. I live in VA and I am constantly playing games where there is lag and it is very choppy. A couple weeks back i was in Florida visiting family and the game did seem to play much smoother when playing online. I will say my internet in VA isn't the greatest but the FL internet speeds and connection were very similar.

    Florida internet is trash. Check the names when you play online. Now it doesn't always mean they are there. I would bet when you play someone from Florida, New Jersey, New York, Boston, etc, the game plays really bad if that is actually where they are from.

    On the flip side someone could have a team name of South Carolina Gamecocks but actually be playing in Florida which would result in a terrible experience.

    It also makes sense why high level streamers from these areas rarely see issues. I have watched rebel some but not a lot and have never seen these issues when I watch him. Movie Gaming is in KC and I see issues on his stream all the time.

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    Well, it’s P2P and the server is there to establish the protocols; once the game is established you’re p2p. I’m guessing it has more to do with how many hops you have to do to reach the other players. Also factors like WiFi, upload speed, cheap networking equipment and so on

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    @yankblan_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    Well, it’s P2P and the server is there to establish the protocols; once the game is established you’re p2p. I’m guessing it has more to do with how many hops you have to do to reach the other players. Also factors like WiFi, upload speed, cheap networking equipment and so on

    OK, I don't understand this part. Doesn't the game still have to be connected to the server to post results, disconnects, etc? This is a serious question. Everything I am seeing it seems like the server still plays a part in the game. Online play was atrocious when the servers were having massive issues earlier.

    I always thought before that the laggy warping games were a result of opponent's connection but now I am wondering if it was the servers the whole time.

    I will be playing when I get off work at 3 central or so and will continue to see if there is a correlation between team names and alleged server locations. There definitely seems to be one.

    And why would your protocol state that it is OK for me in the center of the U.S. to constantly get matched with people over 1200 miles away if that is where they are?

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Does anyone remember in COD the ridiculous host advantage that players used to have when they were host? Well this is similar. While playing the event last night I really paid attention to the opponent name and how the game played. Coincidentally, every game that had a name from or really close to where the alleged servers are (New Jersey, Florida, Chicago, Texas, Denver, West Coast) played really bad. I had a hard time getting hits in these games despite good pci placement, pitches felt faster, baserunning was terrible, felt like I was throwing slow pitch softball with outlier pitchers. It was frankly just a miserable experience. Funny enough the other games played fine. Getting rewarded, turning on pitches, etc.

    If you have been dealing with these issues consistently you have probably moved on to Madden or something else. If not, look at the team name and tell me if when you play someone whose team name is the above or close to it, the game play deteriorates badly. Matter of fact, my guess is if your opponent is even decently closer to these locations than you that you will see these issues.

    Before the idiots come in, this isn't about wins and losses. This is about consistency and quality in this game. I mean we could move one of these servers from Chicago to KC and I almost guarantee the quality of my game would rise dramatically. I don't know what role the server plays in p2p but there is definitely something here. Happens way too much for there not to be.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I thought you already had been talking about this?

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    @yankblan_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    Well, it’s P2P and the server is there to establish the protocols; once the game is established you’re p2p. I’m guessing it has more to do with how many hops you have to do to reach the other players. Also factors like WiFi, upload speed, cheap networking equipment and so on

    My thoughts as well. Packet loss from hops.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @yankblan_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    Well, it’s P2P and the server is there to establish the protocols; once the game is established you’re p2p. I’m guessing it has more to do with how many hops you have to do to reach the other players. Also factors like WiFi, upload speed, cheap networking equipment and so on

    OK, I don't understand this part. Doesn't the game still have to be connected to the server to post results, disconnects, etc? This is a serious question. Everything I am seeing it seems like the server still plays a part in the game. Online play was atrocious when the servers were having massive issues earlier.

    I always thought before that the laggy warping games were a result of opponent's connection but now I am wondering if it was the servers the whole time.

    I will be playing when I get off work at 3 central or so and will continue to see if there is a correlation between team names and alleged server locations. There definitely seems to be one.

    And why would your protocol state that it is OK for me in the center of the U.S. to constantly get matched with people over 1200 miles away if that is where they are?

    Yes, there’s a connection to update stats and results, but these data transfers are microscopic and don’t interfere with the overall gameplay; as for the search criteria, only SDS could answer that and how they determine priority with the balancing of ratings vs location and ping, and how long they ping before moving up the width of the search

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    @codywolfgang_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Does anyone remember in COD the ridiculous host advantage that players used to have when they were host? Well this is similar. While playing the event last night I really paid attention to the opponent name and how the game played. Coincidentally, every game that had a name from or really close to where the alleged servers are (New Jersey, Florida, Chicago, Texas, Denver, West Coast) played really bad. I had a hard time getting hits in these games despite good pci placement, pitches felt faster, baserunning was terrible, felt like I was throwing slow pitch softball with outlier pitchers. It was frankly just a miserable experience. Funny enough the other games played fine. Getting rewarded, turning on pitches, etc.

    If you have been dealing with these issues consistently you have probably moved on to Madden or something else. If not, look at the team name and tell me if when you play someone whose team name is the above or close to it, the game play deteriorates badly. Matter of fact, my guess is if your opponent is even decently closer to these locations than you that you will see these issues.

    Before the idiots come in, this isn't about wins and losses. This is about consistency and quality in this game. I mean we could move one of these servers from Chicago to KC and I almost guarantee the quality of my game would rise dramatically. I don't know what role the server plays in p2p but there is definitely something here. Happens way too much for there not to be.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I thought you already had been talking about this?

    Started to piece it together a while back when we were having those massive server issue and the game was playing bad. If the game was p2p, why was that an issue? I've always thought the laggy warping games were due to opponent's connection which still could be but I just found out recently where the alleged servers are and it all is way too coincidental that those seem to be the opponents where I have massive issues.

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    The thing that I don't get, is I never had these issues until last year. I've been using the same setup since 18 at least. Same console, same ISP, same speeds. Yet I didn't start seeing the underwater batting until about a month into 20. I even went back to try 19 last year and it was still fine while 20 was playing like dung.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @ladyswampfox_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @ladyswampfox_xbl said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    I don’t play online, I just play against the cpu, do programs, and conquest. However, I am experiencing issues similar to the ones you describe. Before I go into my experiences, I’d like to state for the record that I’ve played MLBTS since MLBTS 16, I am playing MLB 21 on Xbox Series X, and I have excellent WiFi and internet (with signal-boosting linksys nodes).

    Against CPU, the game can be choppy and have a low frame rate sometimes. It doesn’t happen often during sunny, partly cloudy, overcast, or night games, but the frame rate drops during rain games (especially noticeable when the bat makes contact of any kind with the ball, esp. fouls). It’s very annoying.

    The game deliberately makes my baserunners slow and stupid. It doesn’t matter if the pitcher is terrible at pickoffs, or how bad the infielders are. On every other steal attempt (on average), my baserunner will get a slowed-down jump—even if the baserunner is a speed demon, like Kenny Lofton or MA Byron Buxton. This occurs regardless of the ball-strike count, game situation, or pitch out. It’s quite remarkable that my controller has not been sent into the opposite wall like a missile, with how much this has happened.

    Furthermore, the game will lock me in place on occasion when the pitcher does a pickoff throw. It happens regardless of what base my runner (or runners) is on and regardless of the stats of the pitcher/infielders or those of my baserunner. My runner is stuck in place and doesn’t move when I press the button to make him retreat.

    Also, I feel like the game makes me throw a cookie to the occasional hitter (even though the pitcher I’m using has great accuracy), resulting in a no-doubt home run. It used to happen to me pitching against Gary Sanchez all the time (for some reason). Maybe the game wants to give the hitter a freebie HR with how many batters I strike out. Idk.

    I wish I could say I was paranoid, but I have a gut feeling and years of MLBTS experience that suggest otherwise. I should probably make a thread on this.

    I don't play against the cpu much. It is mind numbingly boring for me. However, I was getting some of these early when the servers were just horrid.

    Be thankful you don't play online if you deal with this against the cpu. This game isn't worth breaking controllers for.

    Unfortunately, I don't think this will get many responses because I think most of the people that deal with these issues bailed. I think I may friendly or just quit when I see these people. Save me 45 minutes of bs. Last night I thought long and hard about going back to PUBG. Probably test this theory some more tonight. Worried about playing HOF when these issues cause huge problems on all star. I seem to be playing these people more. Had a lot of them last night and it wasn't fun.

    I played one online game this year and the lag made my pitching so awful that I gave up three HRs in an inning. Couldn’t even hit one myself. I was out of town renting a place at the time for an internship, and that no doubt played a role in the bad signal, but still. I play battlefield and I know exactly what having high latency is like (it’s crazy, when it gets bad enough your soldier just zips and slides around, and your shots don’t register soon enough, if at all). I get onto Charter real quick if we’re not getting the signal strength and speed we pay for. Drives me crazy.

    Worse, the person I played against had the worst uniforms ever that had the loudest and most obnoxious colors. Their players were so bright in that head-to-toe hot pink and light blue that they looked like they took a bath in a melted down reactor core. It was terrible, no fashion sense at all 😆

    Battlefield had to change how they did things. Do you remember back when the OOR (out of region) players would come into servers with their 300 ping and wreck servers? They would drop you instantly and they were like little terminators.

    Felt like that happened early on with Battlefield 1. I could be wrong, I’m not the best technical expert in that area.

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    @d_e_m_i_s_e_psn said in After years I think I finally found the cause of the warping pitches, etc:

    If you do not deal with warping pitches, noodle bats, slow base stealer jumps, etc, this does not apply to you. Please move along. Nothing for you to see here.

    Does anyone remember in COD the ridiculous host advantage that players used to have when they were host? Well this is similar. While playing the event last night I really paid attention to the opponent name and how the game played. Coincidentally, every game that had a name from or really close to where the alleged servers are (New Jersey, Florida, Chicago, Texas, Denver, West Coast) played really bad. I had a hard time getting hits in these games despite good pci placement, pitches felt faster, baserunning was terrible, felt like I was throwing slow pitch softball with outlier pitchers. It was frankly just a miserable experience. Funny enough the other games played fine. Getting rewarded, turning on pitches, etc.

    Curious to hear from people that test this. Now you could play someone in or close to those areas and have no idea.

    You’re probably on to something. I remember in a different post a gentleman said that he was early on every pitch and you asked him if he was from like Florida or Denver or New Jersey. He happened to be from Denver. Of course it could be a coincidence, but I do feel people are having completely different experiences online. And it has to be something. So maybe it’s, as you said, proximity to servers. I’ve only been playing this game for three years, has a moderator in the forums ever commented on anything pertaining to a topic such as this?

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