Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Altuve....c'mon...gotta have a better Altuve.
Not really, no. His 2019 PS card is good enough.
Defense is a measley 63 and a 66 reaction...with 70ish speed.
5 time Silver Slugger, 6 time All-Star, MVP, WS Champion, stole over 30 bases 6 consecutive seasons over 50 SB once, GG winner, 30+ bombs in a season, .315 career avg.
29 yrs old...he is right there with Betts in overall WAR.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/altuvjo01-field.shtml
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Spahn definitely should have higher than an 89....363 career wins 3.00 ERA.
McGriff and Andruw both deserve better. Esp Andruw.
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@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Spahn definitely should have higher than an 89....363 career wins 3.00 ERA.
McGriff and Andruw both deserve better. Esp Andruw.
You’re definitely biased, but so right on the money with these. Agree 100%
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@LankyRyan said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Spahn definitely should have higher than an 89....363 career wins 3.00 ERA.
McGriff and Andruw both deserve better. Esp Andruw.
You’re definitely biased, but so right on the money with these. Agree 100%
I actually suggested Altuve first
I dont think Torre deserves higher card.
Saberhagen and Hershiser maybe...
Betts, JD Martinez prob...I mean Justin Upton has a card $%#
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Brett and Orel would be amazing.
5 others I'd like to see:
Don Mattingly
Hal Newhouser
Jake Arrieta
Pablo Sandoval
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@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
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@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
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@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
Yeah people need to realize that Joe Carter was an average to slightly above average player, nothing more.
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@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
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@Baracesilk said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
I will only accept a Rob Dibble SS if he gives up a homerun it allows you to throw the next pitch into the crowd.
hahaha that would be a fantastic feature in the game - just whips it in rage
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@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
Ankiel is literally the only one on your list that is worse than Joe Carter
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
Yeah people need to realize that Joe Carter was an average to slightly above average player, nothing more.
Joe Carter was definitely well above average and borderline HOF possibly extremely underrated. The only people who think otherwise are sabermetrics groupies who don’t understand baseball.
Dude was a lock for 30 homers and 100 rbi for 11 years. 5x all Star 2x silve slugger is NOT what an average or slightly above average MLB player does.
He is the classic guy sabermetrics misses as he performed equally good or better in clutch situations
Besides dude who says no to Carter.259 wants Zobrist .260. Really?
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@the_dragon1912 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
Ankiel is literally the only one on your list that is worse than Joe Carter
Plus Ankiel really shouldn’t be counted anyways. He got one as a novelty, a pitcher with good hitting and pitching attributes. Not because of his career accomplishments.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@the_dragon1912 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
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Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
Ankiel is literally the only one on your list that is worse than Joe Carter
Plus Ankiel really shouldn’t be counted anyways. He got one as a novelty, a pitcher with good hitting and pitching attributes. Not because of his career accomplishments.
So in addition to Ben Zobrist you think Alex Gordon is better than Carter. Ok cool story. What did Carter ever do to you. Your Carter bias is as weird as it is unfonded
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@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@the_dragon1912 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@RonnieGant1992 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
The title is pretty self-explanatory. If you could choose 5 more signature series cards (that SDS has the rights to) to still arrive before we move onto MLB 20, which ones would you choose?
For myself, the list would the following:
Orel Hershiser
- Realistically speaking, even if he did get a SS card they wouldn't be able to boost his /9's much (career best WHIP 1.052 and K/9 6.5) unless they totally abandon reality, but we could still expect some increases to his 92 version even with respect /9's. We might also see a bit of a boost to his fastball velocity, break and stamina.
Brett Saberhagen
-
Statistically speaking - and also accolades-wise - Saberhagen had a significantly better career than Hershiser (also compared to most other pitchers). His '89 season was actually very good with a WHIP of 0.961 and a FIP of 2.45 - his K/9 that year wasn't anything insane (6.6) but he got it up to 7.5 at his best.
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We could expect to see a quite a high H/9 stat and quite a bit lower K/9 stat with great control. In his early years he could also throw quite hard so we could expect his fastball to reach 97 mph (especially given how SS cards have been boosted).
Goose Gossage
- This would be close to what his immortal card was last year - nearly perfect P/9's and better control than his 95 version.
Andruw Jones
- This is a highly anticipated card (also by me), but realistically speaking he probably wouldn't make into any other teams than theme lineups at this point (his contact and vision would simply be too low). This is probably why SDS added his 91 card so early as it actually gave a nice window to use his card when there wasn't that many better options out there.
Rob Dibble
- This is just a personal favorite of mine - we could expect small increases into his /9's, but I suppose for him to be included into most people's lineups SDS would have to give him a change-up (after which he would be an absolute beast).
As soon as you said realistically speaking you lost touch with the SS ratings of this game. These stats have been crazy unrealistic.
Joe Carter was a 30-30 guy in his prime he needs a better card that is useable.
Joe Carter had a .259 career batting average and a career .779 OPS...with a 105+ OPS. If not for the Game 6 World Series winning Home Run in 1993 vs the Philles he wouldnt even deserve a card.
My response to that is
Alex Gordon
Bill Mazoroski
Jason Kendall
Steve Finley
Rick AnkielI think Joe Carter is good enough
Ankiel is literally the only one on your list that is worse than Joe Carter
Plus Ankiel really shouldn’t be counted anyways. He got one as a novelty, a pitcher with good hitting and pitching attributes. Not because of his career accomplishments.
So in addition to Ben Zobrist you think Alex Gordon is better than Carter. Ok cool story. What did Carter ever do to you. Your Carter bias is as weird as it is unfonded
Out of curiosity, other than career longevity and sentiment - how is Carter's career objectively better than Gordon's?
Carter's career WAR over 16 years of playing is 19.6.
Gordon's career WAR over 13 years of playing is almost twice as high at 36.6.
Gordon also had the better peak when it comes to WAR.
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Carter .259
Hordon .258Carter 396 homers
Gordon 186 homerCarter 1445 RBI
Gordon 700 RBICarter 5x Allstatr
Gordon 3x all StarCarter 4 top 10 MVP finishes
Gordon 0 top 10 MVP finishesShould I keep going. Carter was am excellent player
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@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Carter .259
Hordon .258Carter 396 homers
Gordon 186 homerCarter 1445 RBI
Gordon 700 RBICarter 5x Allstatr
Gordon 3x all StarCarter 4 top 10 MVP finishes
Gordon 0 top 10 MVP finishesShould I keep going. Carter was am excellent player
None of those address the other half of the game that is defense. Gordon is literally twice as valuable for his teams.
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I don’t really even have a great sentimental attachment to the dude. I also don’t think WAR is a great stat.i just think joe Carter is a good player worthy of a SS and better than a bunch of guys who got a card
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@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Carter .259
Hordon .258Carter 396 homers
Gordon 186 homerCarter 1445 RBI
Gordon 700 RBICarter 5x Allstatr
Gordon 3x all StarCarter 4 top 10 MVP finishes
Gordon 0 top 10 MVP finishesShould I keep going. Carter was am excellent player
None of those address the other half of the game that is defense. Gordon is literally twice as valuable for his teams.
I left out a lot. Carter was a better base runner. Carters defense was not terrible it was average. The gap in defense between the two is waaaaay smaller than the gap in offense. Keep in mind that Gordon was a defensive gem in the LEAST important defensive position.
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@SefarR said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
@Maverick31762 said in Your 5 most wanted SS cards still missing:
Carter .259
Hordon .258Carter 396 homers
Gordon 186 homerCarter 1445 RBI
Gordon 700 RBICarter 5x Allstatr
Gordon 3x all StarCarter 4 top 10 MVP finishes
Gordon 0 top 10 MVP finishesShould I keep going. Carter was am excellent player
None of those address the other half of the game that is defense. Gordon is literally twice as valuable for his teams.
This guy really just tried to use RBI, All-Star appearances, and MVP placement to justify one player having the better career over another lmao. The carter bias is most definitely on him, not us. Any reasonable person could see that carter was nothing more than average, with his peak being slightly above average.
