Length of MTO
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Personally, I don't mind the length of the regular season portion, but having to play multiple innings of every single playoff game really makes it drag along. Initially I thought about doing an MTO with every team for team affinity points, but I don't see that happening now. The fun is wearing off and it's become a chore to finish the 1st one (Rays in the ALCS).
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@GreyOsprey said in Length of MTO:
Personally, I don't mind the length of the regular season portion, but having to play multiple innings of every single playoff game really makes it drag along. Initially I thought about doing an MTO with every team for team affinity points, but I don't see that happening now. The fun is wearing off and it's become a chore to finish the 1st one (Rays in the ALCS).
I too thought about doing it once for every team. Then I came to my senses and realized I would hate that grinder.
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@MathMan5072 said in Length of MTO:
Padres
I did the whole thing on all star and beat the Indians in the World Series.Trades: Brett Gardner, Joc Pederson, Starling Marte. I targeted Joc and left handed bats with speed.
Pre All Star game
19 above expected
+12 affinity
15-5 record
4 hoursPost All Star
13 above expected on all star
+12 affinity
10-2 record
3 hoursPlayoffs
11-2 record
2 started with lead
3 started behind
All started in the 5th or 6th except wild card
5 hoursTotal time: 12 hours
Total affinity: 48Not sure why I had to play more games, especially because I won the division by 10 games.
I started a Padres run last night but may abandon it. I lose a lot during my simulated games it seems despite being "on fire".
Might do a restart or just use the same time to grind out padre innings and stat missions in conquest.
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Angels
I did regular season hall of fame. SDS changed affinity with the last patch so I got a lot more points after the all star break even though both were max. After losing the first playoff game, I dropped to all star because I didn’t want to have to play 3 full games if I lost the next one. I beat the braves in the World Series.Trades: Villar for prospect. I tried to go after some big names, but never really got great offers.
Pre All Star game
11 above expected on hall of fame
+12 affinity
12-7 record
4 hoursPost All Star
13 above expected on hall of game
+17 affinity
7-1 record
2.5 hoursPlayoffs
11-3 record
3 started with lead
5 started behind
6 started tied
All started in the 5th or 6th except one in the 4th
5 hoursTotal time: 11.5 hours
Total affinity: 65Definitely would have been less time if I didn’t play 14 total extra innings and I had one game player locked as a pitcher after calling him up from minors. Several people say that it can be done in 8 hours if you push it and avoid extras or pitching.
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This was my original post. I moved it down here to edit the original. So, the team affinity will be lower than what is given out now.
Dodgers
I started on hall of fame but switched to all star because I was worried I would miss the playoffs. I made it as the home wild card and won the World Series against Astros.Trades: Yelich in June for prospect, Story offered in July for Kike Hernandez but declined, other non consequential denied.
Pre All Star game
5 below expected on hall of fame
+8 affinity
9-7 record
3.5 hoursPost All Star
2 above expected on all star
+8 affinity
7-4 record
2.5 hoursPlayoffs
1 full wild card game
11-2 record in other games
6 started with lead
3 started behind
4 started tied
All started in the 5th or 6th except wild card
5.5 hoursTotal time: 11.5 hours
Total affinity: around 40Definitely would have been less time if I had played an easier level. I had to play until the very last game of the year and had to play a full 9 inning playoff game.
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Pirates
I did the whole thing on Veteran and my goal was to do it as quickly as possible, because I had read that several people had done a whole run in 7 or 8 hours and my three previous had taken over 11 hours. So, I avoided all player locks as pitcher if I could. Also, if I got up by two runs I pretty much got out as quickly as I could by running into outs or just striking out. I only played a total of 6 innings in extra innings in the whole run. I beat the Athletics in the World Series.Trades: Josh Hader, Aroldis Chapman, JR Realmuto, and Andrelton Simmons. All of this were for prospects or low level MLB guys.
Pre All Star game
14 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
14-6 record
3 hours (169 minuntes)Post All Star
14 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
8-3 record
1 hour (71 minutes)Playoffs
11-0 record
2 started with lead
0 started behind
9 started tied
All started in 6th except one in the 5th
2.5 hours (158 minutes)Total time: 6.5 hours (398 minutes)
Total affinity: 52I don't know how you could go much faster than this. I had four player lock missions as pitchers to get no hitters, which take up a little time. And, other than the extra innings, there is only a little bit of overall time to shave here since I was getting out as fast as I could once I got the lead. Overall, it was fun and relaxing to play on Veteran. But, I don't necessarily love the idea of grinding to finish as quickly as possible, since that makes this feel like work. And, I really enjoy this mode.
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@MathMan5072 said in Length of MTO:
Pirates
I did the whole thing on Veteran and my goal was to do it as quickly as possible, because I had read that several people had done a whole run in 7 or 8 hours and my three previous had taken over 11 hours. So, I avoided all player locks as pitcher if I could. Also, if I got up by two runs I pretty much got out as quickly as I could by running into outs or just striking out. I only played a total of 6 innings in extra innings in the whole run. I beat the Athletics in the World Series.Trades: Josh Hader, Aroldis Chapman, JR Realmuto, and Andrelton Simmons. All of this were for prospects or low level MLB guys.
Pre All Star game
14 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
14-6 record
3 hours (169 minuntes)Post All Star
14 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
8-3 record
1 hour (71 minutes)Playoffs
11-0 record
2 started with lead
0 started behind
9 started tied
All started in 6th except one in the 5th
2.5 hours (158 minutes)Total time: 6.5 hours (298 minutes)
Total affinity: 52I don't know how you could go much faster than this. I had four player lock missions as pitchers to get no hitters, which take up a little time. And, other than the extra innings, there is only a little bit of overall time to shave here since I was getting out as fast as I could once I got the lead. Overall, it was fun and relaxing to play on Veteran. But, I don't necessarily love the idea of grinding to finish as quickly as possible, since that makes this feel like work. And, I really enjoy this mode.
Thanks for the breakdowns! I’m gonna do it on veteran and try to get the 52 points. I wanna go quick but it seems like I would enjoy this mode as well.
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I always seem to do bad on Vet. Wondering if I should just play on AS or Dynamic
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@Psycho__Kinetic said in Length of MTO:
I always seem to do bad on Vet. Wondering if I should just play on AS or Dynamic
It does mess with your timing and on veteran you just start swinging at everything. I think all star is the sweet spot. You have to be a little patient, but, for me at least, if I decide I have to win I usually will. I just did veteran because I wanted to see how fast I could do a run.
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Tigers
I did the whole thing on Veteran and my goal was to do it quickly. So, I avoided all player locks as pitcher if I could. The bullpen for Detroit is so bad, I had a hard time closing out games at first. Then I picked up Chapman and the Detroit closer got better. So, that helped. I played a total of 12 innings in extra innings in the whole run, mostly in the first two months, because the players were so low, and I have no patience on veteran. I swing at everything. I beat the Dodgers in the World Series.Trades: Conforto, Aroldis Chapman. I tried setting my sights high with guys like lindor and trout but no bite.
Pre All Star game
19 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
13-5 record
3 hours (188 minutes)Post All Star
19 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
8-2 record
1.5 hours (84minutes)Playoffs
11-0 record
4 started with lead
3 started behind
3 started tied
All started in 5th or 6th
3 hours (169 minutes)Total time: 7.5 hours (441minutes)
Total affinity: 52If you avoid swinging at everything, veteran can be relaxing. But it still just feels “Grindy.” So, I’m gonna do a hall of game next.
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How do you skip player lock moments, if possible?
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@bhall09 said in Length of MTO:
How do you skip player lock moments, if possible?
You can’t skip the moments for guys that are on your team. But, I avoid the pitching ones by not trading for a starting pitcher or calling up a starting pitcher prospect. But, if my big league pitcher has a no hitter possibility theyn I have to do it.
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So you get about 50 team affinity points on veteran? I might do the Rangers than. I want FOTF Joey Gallo
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@samguenther1987 said in Length of MTO:
So you get about 50 team affinity points on veteran? I might do the Rangers than. I want FOTF Joey Gallo
If you get the max at all star and end of the season. And, of course, win the World Series. If you do rangers, share how it is. That stadium has a lot going on it. Not sure if I could play al those home games there.
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Do the stubs, XP and program stars for just playing equal about the same as if you were playing conquest or something? I actually think this might be my go-to mode for a while becuase I’m getting frustrated with showdown and moments.
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I would guess so. But, you have to remember that you might only play an inning or two. So, you are not building up that xp like you might in other modes. Therefore, you’re not building up those stars. I might try to keep track of this in my next run.
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Twins
I did the whole thing on Hall of Fame, but really took my time. I watched most of the cut scenes and tried to appreciate the different commentary and cut scenes in game. I twas also on Hall of Fame. So, it took quite a bit longer than my other runs. I ended up winning 121 games and swept the Phillies in the World Series. This was definitely the most fun I had in this mode.Trades: Britton to get another lefty in the pen, and Yelich (I was trying to get speed)
Pre All Star game
17 above expected on hall of fame
+16 affinity (1 less than max, not sure why, maybe because the front office didn't get an A, but not sure)
14-5 record
5.5 hoursPost All Star
13 above expected on hall of game
+17 affinity (max)
8-4 record
3 hoursPlayoffs
11-3 record
5 started with lead
2 started behind
7 started tied
The first two games started in the fourth. One started in the fifth. The rest in the sixth.
6 hoursTotal time: 15 hours
Total affinity: 75 + 21 (Extra 21 came because there was double affinity when the new stages dropped)Definitely my most enjoyable run, because I really tried to enjoy it. That is why it took so long. Came out on fire. I was 52-6 to start the season. I also delayed finishing the WS until the new stages of affinity came out, and ended up getting 42 points for playing one game. So, that was a nice surprise.
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@MathMan5072 said in Length of MTO:
Tigers
I did the whole thing on Veteran and my goal was to do it quickly. So, I avoided all player locks as pitcher if I could. The bullpen for Detroit is so bad, I had a hard time closing out games at first. Then I picked up Chapman and the Detroit closer got better. So, that helped. I played a total of 12 innings in extra innings in the whole run, mostly in the first two months, because the players were so low, and I have no patience on veteran. I swing at everything. I beat the Dodgers in the World Series.Trades: Conforto, Aroldis Chapman. I tried setting my sights high with guys like lindor and trout but no bite.
Pre All Star game
19 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
13-5 record
3 hours (188 minutes)Post All Star
19 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
8-2 record
1.5 hours (84minutes)Playoffs
11-0 record
4 started with lead
3 started behind
3 started tied
All started in 5th or 6th
3 hours (169 minutes)Total time: 7.5 hours (441minutes)
Total affinity: 52If you avoid swinging at everything, veteran can be relaxing. But it still just feels “Grindy.” So, I’m gonna do a hall of game next.
How long does one showdown take, with B attempt at all the challenges? Maybe 1.5 hours? Truing to weigh the difference between MTO and showdown.
So, showdown can last between 6-8 hours on veteran and you get 52 points. You’d have to do showdown 3 times to reach that much. So, that’s 4.5 hours or so. Significantly less but not by a crazy amount. You also have the benefit of guaranteed affinity points, as opposed to losing one of those showdown runs. You go 3/4 on showdown runs and you’re basically at the same time as a full MTO run.
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@bhall09 said in Length of MTO:
@MathMan5072 said in Length of MTO:
Tigers
I did the whole thing on Veteran and my goal was to do it quickly. So, I avoided all player locks as pitcher if I could. The bullpen for Detroit is so bad, I had a hard time closing out games at first. Then I picked up Chapman and the Detroit closer got better. So, that helped. I played a total of 12 innings in extra innings in the whole run, mostly in the first two months, because the players were so low, and I have no patience on veteran. I swing at everything. I beat the Dodgers in the World Series.Trades: Conforto, Aroldis Chapman. I tried setting my sights high with guys like lindor and trout but no bite.
Pre All Star game
19 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
13-5 record
3 hours (188 minutes)Post All Star
19 above expected on Veteran
+11 affinity (max on veteran)
8-2 record
1.5 hours (84minutes)Playoffs
11-0 record
4 started with lead
3 started behind
3 started tied
All started in 5th or 6th
3 hours (169 minutes)Total time: 7.5 hours (441minutes)
Total affinity: 52If you avoid swinging at everything, veteran can be relaxing. But it still just feels “Grindy.” So, I’m gonna do a hall of game next.
How long does one showdown take, with B attempt at all the challenges? Maybe 1.5 hours? Truing to weigh the difference between MTO and showdown.
So, showdown can last between 6-8 hours on veteran and you get 52 points. You’d have to do showdown 3 times to reach that much. So, that’s 4.5 hours or so. Significantly less but not by a crazy amount. You also have the benefit of guaranteed affinity points, as opposed to losing one of those showdown runs. You go 3/4 on showdown runs and you’re basically at the same time as a full MTO run.
If you feel confident in winning showdown, then that is by far the fastest. I haven’t really dedicated myself to trying showdown based on all the pots here. But, it sounds like MTO would be more time efficient for a lot of players. I also really like MTO.
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@MathMan5072 said in Length of MTO:
Angels
I did regular season hall of fame. SDS changed affinity with the last patch so I got a lot more points after the all star break even though both were max. After losing the first playoff game, I dropped to all star because I didn’t want to have to play 3 full games if I lost the next one. I beat the braves in the World Series.Trades: Villar for prospect. I tried to go after some big names, but never really got great offers.
Pre All Star game
11 above expected on hall of fame
+12 affinity
12-7 record
4 hoursPost All Star
13 above expected on hall of game
+17 affinity
7-1 record
2.5 hoursPlayoffs
11-3 record
3 started with lead
5 started behind
6 started tied
All started in the 5th or 6th except one in the 4th
5 hoursTotal time: 11.5 hours
Total affinity: 65Definitely would have been less time if I didn’t play 14 total extra innings and I had one game player locked as a pitcher after calling him up from minors. Several people say that it can be done in 8 hours if you push it and avoid extras or pitching.
I tried my first 1 on VET and it seem to only take 4 hours for Reg Season, 3 hours for PO. When I tried on AS it took longer, I lost more games had to play more games and more games in extra innings. For time it is better just to play on Vet destroy the CPU and only do the reg season. I am just doing it for TA and for fun and I will continue to play on VET.
