RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey)
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@mattymo35_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
This is just confirmation bias. You believe it's a thing, so you search for evidence to suggest that it is(and remember all of the times that you've been screwed by it), while also overlooking all of the bloop hits you have gotten on bad swings or lineouts for your opponent. It's baseball. Sometimes you hit the ball hard right at someone. It sucks when you do it in clutch situations. It doesn't mean the game is rigged for or against you.
Exactly. But if these guys don’t win it must be the game is rigged against them.
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@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
If you are using Trout with high Power you have a better Chance that RNG is going to calculate a home run outcome.
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
I don’t think anyone wants cards to “not matter”.I’ve just seen too many perfect perfect outs in CLUTCH situations that are absolutely game breaking. 1 man on in the 9th down one— you can’t give me 2 perfect perfect outs and a good good line drive to lose. Sorry. That’s just ridiculous and I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I don’t care who is pitching. If three consecutive inputs that are good to perfect are not rewarded to tie the game. That is not RNG that is ROBB- ERY
I feel that way too when that happens. But it’s not the game rigged against you. It is that their pitcher is clutch in those situations. Gotta score runs before their closer can get a chance to do that to you in a clutch situations like the 9th inning.
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@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
If you are using Trout with high Power you have a better Chance that RNG is going to calculate a home run outcome.
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
I don’t think anyone wants cards to “not matter”.I’ve just seen too many perfect perfect outs in CLUTCH situations that are absolutely game breaking. 1 man on in the 9th down one— you can’t give me 2 perfect perfect outs and a good good line drive to lose. Sorry. That’s just ridiculous and I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I don’t care who is pitching. If three consecutive inputs that are good to perfect are not rewarded to tie the game. That is not RNG that is ROBB- ERY
I feel that way too when that happens. But it’s not the game rigged against you. It is that their pitcher is clutch in those situations. Gotta score runs before their closer can get a chance to do that to you in a clutch situations like the 9th inning.
If it happens as PG described and is caused by what you’ve described then that’s the game playing the users, not the other way around. Why even have the users at all if this is the cause?
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@red_ted_is_back said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
If you are using Trout with high Power you have a better Chance that RNG is going to calculate a home run outcome.
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
I don’t think anyone wants cards to “not matter”.I’ve just seen too many perfect perfect outs in CLUTCH situations that are absolutely game breaking. 1 man on in the 9th down one— you can’t give me 2 perfect perfect outs and a good good line drive to lose. Sorry. That’s just ridiculous and I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I don’t care who is pitching. If three consecutive inputs that are good to perfect are not rewarded to tie the game. That is not RNG that is ROBB- ERY
I feel that way too when that happens. But it’s not the game rigged against you. It is that their pitcher is clutch in those situations. Gotta score runs before their closer can get a chance to do that to you in a clutch situations like the 9th inning.
If it happens as PG described and is caused by what you’ve described then that’s the game playing the users, not the other way around. Why even have the users at all if this is the cause?
Because it is both. In this example the fact that the pitcher had a good clutch rating won the battle of the two. That is why you want good cards. Otherwise why have pitchers with good ratings? Why care which Legends are coming out this year? It has to be both or the game fails for everyone, unless you just do not care who is on your team and you just want 100% input to matter. Some people do. Personally, I want my cards and my input to matter equally. If MLB The Show is just a video game to you, and not a baseball game with players who perform somewhat like they do in RL, then it is just a generic video game to you. Makes me laugh when I see people who want input to be all that matters get excited about the new Legends.
Why get excited about new Legends if you do not want the new Legends to make a difference on your team?
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@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@red_ted_is_back said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
If you are using Trout with high Power you have a better Chance that RNG is going to calculate a home run outcome.
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
I don’t think anyone wants cards to “not matter”.I’ve just seen too many perfect perfect outs in CLUTCH situations that are absolutely game breaking. 1 man on in the 9th down one— you can’t give me 2 perfect perfect outs and a good good line drive to lose. Sorry. That’s just ridiculous and I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I don’t care who is pitching. If three consecutive inputs that are good to perfect are not rewarded to tie the game. That is not RNG that is ROBB- ERY
I feel that way too when that happens. But it’s not the game rigged against you. It is that their pitcher is clutch in those situations. Gotta score runs before their closer can get a chance to do that to you in a clutch situations like the 9th inning.
If it happens as PG described and is caused by what you’ve described then that’s the game playing the users, not the other way around. Why even have the users at all if this is the cause?
Because it is both. In this example the fact that the pitcher had a good clutch rating won the battle of the two. That is why you want good cards. Otherwise why have pitchers with good ratings? Why care which Legends are coming out this year? It has to be both or the game fails for everyone, unless you just do not care who is on your team and you just want 100% input to matter. Some people do. Personally, I want my cards and my input to matter equally. If MLB The Show is just a video game to you, and not a baseball game with players who perform somewhat like they do in RL, then it is just a generic video game to you. Makes me laugh when I see people who want input to be all that matters get excited about the new Legends.
Why get excited about new Legends if you do not want the new Legends to make a difference on your team?
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Plus that scenario is one person, in one game, for one inning. SDS statistics show that perfect/perfect input will have a good outcome 80% or more of the time. Swing those odds even more in your favor by having good players on your team.
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@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
Plus that scenario is one person, in one game, for one inning. SDS statistics show that perfect/perfect input will have a good outcome 80% or more of the time. Swing those odds even more in your favor by having good players on your team.
SDS has done nothing to give me any faith in the statistics they released and until they show me otherwise I must assume these numbers are just another self-serving attempt by SDS to try & prevent the majority of its dissatisfied users from deciding to no longer buy the game and wasting their time/money.
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@jerseylonghorn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
Plus that scenario is one person, in one game, for one inning. SDS statistics show that perfect/perfect input will have a good outcome 80% or more of the time. Swing those odds even more in your favor by having good players on your team.
SDS has done nothing to give me any faith in the statistics they released and until they show me otherwise I must assume these numbers are just another self-serving attempt by SDS to try & prevent the majority of its dissatisfied users from deciding to no longer buy the game and wasting their time/money.
I suggest you do not play then.
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@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@hubijerk_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
RNG is put into the calculations. It’s not a thing all by itself that determines your fate.
I understand that.. but here's an example of a game I just played...
8 innings of shutout baseball, 15k+, only contact and weak hits my opponent got were when I would purposefully throw something hittable to keep my pitch count down. Whole game I'm hitting the ball solid just right at people, lots of hits, guys on base, I just can't score.
Bot of 9th inning I'm up 1-0. Starter is at 75 pitches, full confidence... 1st batter 2 strikes... weak grounder through the infield on a ball outside the zone. 2nd batter, 2 strikes... weak blooper falls in for a hit on a ball outside the zone. 3rd batter, 2 strikes.. ground ball to 3rd (on a ball way outside the zone), should be dp, ball hits bag kicks towards dugout bases loaded. 4th batter 2 strikes... ball way low and outside the zone hits oppo line drive on the line game over I lose.
Things like that have happened way too much in 20. I understand how the numbers would be plugged in but there was something that would just override things and def. lean the advantage one way or the other at certain points. I've gotten better at recognizing it as it's happening and trying to make a change or mix something up to get out of it, but sometimes it just feels like it's taking you for a ride.
THAT I am 100% against. There is no reason imo they cannot balance the game, and balance input with player cards, without resorting to things such as that.
Simple, you don’t make cards with 100+ ratings, you cap ratings at 99 and work from there. 100+ ratings have been messing up this game since they were introduced in 2018 with the immortals. But SDS don’t listen, so expect more RNGesus this year.
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i’ve been playing custom leagues and i’m noticing it at the AllStar and below levels.
I don’t know if I’m good enough to notice it at Hall of Fame and legend
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@hubijerk_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
They have said in the streams less rng more user input.. So I'll take them at their word and believe them.
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@rabid55wolverine said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@rabid55wolverine said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
Have to be careful on how you think about the rng this year. There is 3 different modes in the game in 21 and all will have different levels of rng if things work out right
I think he’s referring to online - the default online settings are competitive.
If it's online competitive then there should be a lot less rng. There seemed to be a lot more rewards for squaring up the ball.
Isn't it all relative. Why would there be less RNG in online competitive? If you have 3 tiers of players. Those that are slow, medium, fast to keep it simple. If you have to implement a bunch of fake animation and misleading outcomes for slow folks...just because you have faster ppl playing why wouldn't those same smoke and mirror mechanisms still be there?
It's one freaking game engine that they adjust sliders on. I just don't believe they got a game core set up for all the RS wizards to show off their awesome skills. And then one designed specifically for those special kids that can't swing properly.
It's all the same..some ppl out here like to attempt to lift themselves up by suggesting this game has a special top secret level that only the best can compete at and, BTW, it's strictly on the up-and-up. True results almost always. That's the most naïve, and pretentious, suggestion anyone could make. It's laughable.
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@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@red_ted_is_back said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
If you are using Trout with high Power you have a better Chance that RNG is going to calculate a home run outcome.
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
I don’t think anyone wants cards to “not matter”.I’ve just seen too many perfect perfect outs in CLUTCH situations that are absolutely game breaking. 1 man on in the 9th down one— you can’t give me 2 perfect perfect outs and a good good line drive to lose. Sorry. That’s just ridiculous and I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I don’t care who is pitching. If three consecutive inputs that are good to perfect are not rewarded to tie the game. That is not RNG that is ROBB- ERY
I feel that way too when that happens. But it’s not the game rigged against you. It is that their pitcher is clutch in those situations. Gotta score runs before their closer can get a chance to do that to you in a clutch situations like the 9th inning.
If it happens as PG described and is caused by what you’ve described then that’s the game playing the users, not the other way around. Why even have the users at all if this is the cause?
Because it is both. In this example the fact that the pitcher had a good clutch rating won the battle of the two. That is why you want good cards. Otherwise why have pitchers with good ratings? Why care which Legends are coming out this year? It has to be both or the game fails for everyone, unless you just do not care who is on your team and you just want 100% input to matter. Some people do. Personally, I want my cards and my input to matter equally. If MLB The Show is just a video game to you, and not a baseball game with players who perform somewhat like they do in RL, then it is just a generic video game to you. Makes me laugh when I see people who want input to be all that matters get excited about the new Legends.
Why get excited about new Legends if you do not want the new Legends to make a difference on your team?
I've always read out here that ratings don't really matter a great deal until the AI wants to utilize them to animate a specific outcome. I mean, look at some of the moments and Showdown. I've had Showdown Boss's whittled down to zero energy with 5 or 6 batters left. Still kept hitting it at'em.
On the other side I've gotten that new alert (I had never seen it before a few days ago) saying Pitcher getting tired and pitched 2 more inning..one inning past "out of energy". I've also gotten this alert and, like a switch was flipped, my pitcher couldn't throw strikes.
This theme also covers all player ratings. A gold batter is going to get that timely hit or timely pitch just like that high diamond will whenever the AI dictates "it shall be so".
It's going to play out according to the libretto the AI happens to be playing off of in that particular game. To say it any other way is only confusing those that don't YET know better.
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@johnny_reb34_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@red_ted_is_back said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@a_perfectgame said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
@vipersneak_psn said in RNG in MLB The Show 2021 (survey):
If you are using Trout with high Power you have a better Chance that RNG is going to calculate a home run outcome.
That depends on the pitcher. That’s why they are nerfing RNG and putting the power back in the player because no one wants to feel like they are playing a random series of uncontrollable algorithms. It was worse in 20 then I’ve ever seen it in any game.
I don’t think anyone wants cards to “not matter”.I’ve just seen too many perfect perfect outs in CLUTCH situations that are absolutely game breaking. 1 man on in the 9th down one— you can’t give me 2 perfect perfect outs and a good good line drive to lose. Sorry. That’s just ridiculous and I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I don’t care who is pitching. If three consecutive inputs that are good to perfect are not rewarded to tie the game. That is not RNG that is ROBB- ERY
I feel that way too when that happens. But it’s not the game rigged against you. It is that their pitcher is clutch in those situations. Gotta score runs before their closer can get a chance to do that to you in a clutch situations like the 9th inning.
If it happens as PG described and is caused by what you’ve described then that’s the game playing the users, not the other way around. Why even have the users at all if this is the cause?
Because it is both. In this example the fact that the pitcher had a good clutch rating won the battle of the two. That is why you want good cards. Otherwise why have pitchers with good ratings? Why care which Legends are coming out this year? It has to be both or the game fails for everyone, unless you just do not care who is on your team and you just want 100% input to matter. Some people do. Personally, I want my cards and my input to matter equally. If MLB The Show is just a video game to you, and not a baseball game with players who perform somewhat like they do in RL, then it is just a generic video game to you. Makes me laugh when I see people who want input to be all that matters get excited about the new Legends.
Why get excited about new Legends if you do not want the new Legends to make a difference on your team?
I've always read out here that ratings don't really matter a great deal until the AI wants to utilize them to animate a specific outcome. I mean, look at some of the moments and Showdown. I've had Showdown Boss's whittled down to zero energy with 5 or 6 batters left. Still kept hitting it at'em.
On the other side I've gotten that new alert (I had never seen it before a few days ago) saying Pitcher getting tired and pitched 2 more inning..one inning past "out of energy". I've also gotten this alert and, like a switch was flipped, my pitcher couldn't throw strikes.
This theme also covers all player ratings. A gold batter is going to get that timely hit or timely pitch just like that high diamond will whenever the AI dictates "it shall be so".
It's going to play out according to the libretto the AI happens to be playing off of in that particular game. To say it any other way is only confusing those that don't YET know better.
I see. So the top rated players in the game are only that way because the game is scripted for them to be the best players in the game? Sorry, but I do not buy into conspiracy theories to explain why I lose a game. I too want to blame anything besides myself when I lose, but I know better.
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